OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: MAY 2024

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KingSpeed said:
Rivers is right. His ability to play football has no bearing on it.
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Honestly I don't think he is. I think you could find 30 in each sport easily that could make the crossover but in both cases it would take quite a bit of re-training to make the cut. If you are talking starting positions or just making the team you got to remember the NBA actually played Meyers Leonard and Blevins/Thanasis Antetokounmpo. The NBA has it's great players for sure but they don't have anyone taking a position from the greats in the NFL either?
In the end it's a stupid statement.
 
kjironman1 said:
Honestly I don't think he is. I think you could find 30 in each sport easily that could make the crossover but in both cases it would take quite a bit of re-training to make the cut. If you are talking starting positions or just making the team you got to remember the NBA actually played Meyers Leonard and Blevins/Thanasis Antetokounmpo. The NBA has it's great players for sure but they don't have anyone taking a position from the greats in the NFL either?
In the end it's a stupid statement.
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Its a stupid statement by Austin Rivers, Watts reply is spot on. Who is even 1 NBA player that would be good in the NFL? Some might say Zion but if he cant stay healthy in the NBA how would he even get through a single game.

Charlie Ward the Knicks old PG for certain could have winning a heismen.

But Terrell Owens won an NBA allstar celebrity game MVP, he was a really big receiver in the NFL but would be a small NBA PG. Both sports actually have very different physical profiles. NBA players are way to skinny and weak in general. NFL players aren't tall enough except linemen that are obviously way too heavy and slow.

It's not like the NFL is lacking athletic players. There are phenomenal athletes that dedicate their lives to football and can't even make the NFL. An NBA player isn't going to be able to just walk up and make it.
 
Going back, Allen Iverson was the number one option quarterback in the country. Lebron was an all state tight end out of high school. Doesn't mean they would become NFL players but the odds pretty good on those two, and yes, its only two and neither could play today. Just showing there are NBA players that could possibly make the jump in their primes. Conversely, Randy Moss played high school basketball with White Chocolate, Jayson Williams. They were incredible together. Moss was a high flyer.
 
BIG Q said:
Going back, Allen Iverson was the number one option quarterback in the country. Lebron was an all state tight end out of high school. Doesn't mean they would become NFL players but the odds pretty good on those two, and yes, its only two and neither could play today. Just showing there are NBA players that could possibly make the jump in their primes. Conversely, Randy Moss played high school basketball with White Chocolate, Jayson Williams. They were incredible together. Moss was a high flyer.
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Just like Bo Jackson yeah there were probably a few incredible athletes in the NBA or NFL that may have had a good career if they chose other sports.

But Austin Rivers comment about 30 current NBA players playing right now in the NFL? No - that's ridiculous. Remember Michael Jordan playing baseball? That was the best NBA player of all time that was a phenomenal athlete. Didn't look very athletic playing baseball though. If MJ had never done it with his very mediocre results people today would be talking about how he could've been an MLB star.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Just like Bo Jackson yeah there were probably a few incredible athletes in the NBA or NFL that may have had a good career if they chose other sports.

But Austin Rivers comment about 30 current NBA players playing right now in the NFL? No - that's ridiculous. Remember Michael Jordan playing baseball? That was the best NBA player of all time that was a phenomenal athlete. Didn't look very athletic playing baseball though. If MJ had never done it with his very mediocre results people today would be talking about how he could've been an MLB star.
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It isn't a 1:1 comparison imo. Jordan wasn't training for Baseball his whole life like MLB players. If he had trained for it, and played it all those years instead of training basketball, I don't think it is a leap to think he could play baseball better than he showed.
 
kjironman1 said:
This seems a bit out of the ordinary? The Cavs are still playing.
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Nah... The 'insiders' promoting this message are living in Miami right now.
It seems like we always hear 'rumors' of some star wanting to get to Miami. Same story - different player... most of it is BS.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
It isn't a 1:1 comparison imo. Jordan wasn't training for Baseball his whole life like MLB players. If he had trained for it, and played it all those years instead of training basketball, I don't think it is a leap to think he could play baseball better than he showed.
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there's a lot of mechanics that go into a baseball swing. MJ had a good looking rip, but tall players with long basketball arms trying to catch heaters takes a lot of shortcuts. Remember Richie Sexson? His blasts didn't even need a complete follow through. There's not too many 6'6" + hitters that can bat .300 in the bigs. Staying down on the hard stuff is easier when your head isn't scraping the clouds.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Its a stupid statement by Austin Rivers, Watts reply is spot on. Who is even 1 NBA player that would be good in the NFL? Some might say Zion but if he cant stay healthy in the NBA how would he even get through a single game.

Charlie Ward the Knicks old PG for certain could have winning a heismen.

But Terrell Owens won an NBA allstar celebrity game MVP, he was a really big receiver in the NFL but would be a small NBA PG. Both sports actually have very different physical profiles. NBA players are way to skinny and weak in general. NFL players aren't tall enough except linemen that are obviously way too heavy and slow.

It's not like the NFL is lacking athletic players. There are phenomenal athletes that dedicate their lives to football and can't even make the NFL. An NBA player isn't going to be able to just walk up and make it.
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I didn't see any mention of NBA players being 'good' in the NFL. Just that they could make the roster.

Honestly, I think Rivers' statement is true. Simply because of roster size.

30 NBA players finding a roster spot out of the 1,696 available in the league is a lot more likely than 30 NFL players finding a roster spot out of the 450 available in the NBA.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Its a stupid statement by Austin Rivers, Watts reply is spot on. Who is even 1 NBA player that would be good in the NFL? Some might say Zion but if he cant stay healthy in the NBA how would he even get through a single game.

Charlie Ward the Knicks old PG for certain could have winning a heismen.

But Terrell Owens won an NBA allstar celebrity game MVP, he was a really big receiver in the NFL but would be a small NBA PG. Both sports actually have very different physical profiles. NBA players are way to skinny and weak in general. NFL players aren't tall enough except linemen that are obviously way too heavy and slow.

It's not like the NFL is lacking athletic players. There are phenomenal athletes that dedicate their lives to football and can't even make the NFL. An NBA player isn't going to be able to just walk up and make it.
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Honestly, I think a lot of the basketball players who would profile well into the NFL don't end up making it into the NBA--at least the modern NBA. Thick, muscular enforcer-types who would have been power forwards in the 90's would make excellent Antonio-Gates-style NFL tight-ends.

As for current NBA players, I think the ones who would be most likely to be successful are the solidly-built 6'3"-6'6" guards who could likely be decent at WR. Dame, Ja Morant, Desmond Bane, Grant Williams, etc. Not gonna go through the league to try to determine if there are 30 who fit that mold, but I would believe that there are several.
 
MickZagger said:
Without me clicking on it can someone tell me what happened?
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After his rookie of the year season, things started to not go as smoothly and when he wasn't living up to expectations he started to become really obsessive and depressed about that. He got way too in his head and played a lot worse because of it, there were also injuries.

He doesn't get into specifics but he said he did things off the court that were so terrible he wasn't going to say but they resulted in his fiance who was the mother of his child leaving him. He then got injured and wasn't on a contract with any team. At that point he sought out help. He got therapy for his mental health and it turned everything around for him. He's back with the woman who left him who is now his wife and he has learned to enjoy the game and accept whatever the best that he can give.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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Chuck is great at what he does now but what the fuck is he talking about? Does he think that LeBron is just going to let himself go, get totally overweight and out of shape but still try to play NBA basketball at an all star level resulting in him rupturing his quad because it's carrying too much weight???

I think Chuck's concern is delusions that he was anything close to what LeBron is (as a basketball player, athlete and self disciplined individual). Father time is undefeated, LeBron could get injured but more likely next year or the year after he will lose a step and he'll call it... or he won't and instead a business opportunity like a Vegas expansion team will present itself and he'll move on still able to play at his current level.

I think Sir Charles might suffer from a bad memory about what led to his downfall. It wasn't sticking around too long it was how he was trying or maybe not trying hard enough to stick around.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Honestly, I think a lot of the basketball players who would profile well into the NFL don't end up making it into the NBA--at least the modern NBA. Thick, muscular enforcer-types who would have been power forwards in the 90's would make excellent Antonio-Gates-style NFL tight-ends.

As for current NBA players, I think the ones who would be most likely to be successful are the solidly-built 6'3"-6'6" guards who could likely be decent at WR. Dame, Ja Morant, Desmond Bane, Grant Williams, etc. Not gonna go through the league to try to determine if there are 30 who fit that mold, but I would believe that there are several.
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Probably a few cornerbacks too.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
It isn't a 1:1 comparison imo. Jordan wasn't training for Baseball his whole life like MLB players. If he had trained for it, and played it all those years instead of training basketball, I don't think it is a leap to think he could play baseball better than he showed.
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Yeah that was kind of my point, guys need to train their whole life to make it in any of the major sports, MLB, NBA, NFL, etc. Austin Rivers idea that 30 NBA guys right now could play in the NFL is ridiculous.
 
It's interesting to me that there's a mini-exodus of Rugby players to the NFL. Kickers in Rugby have a much harder job (it's very rare that you're kicking straight on - you have to kick level with where the try (i.e. touchdown - and you actually have to touch it down) happened, and there are some very fast runners. Example: Louis Rees-Zammit
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah that was kind of my point, guys need to train their whole life to make it in any of the major sports, MLB, NBA, NFL, etc. Austin Rivers idea that 30 NBA guys right now could play in the NFL is ridiculous.
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Idk about right now. I do think some of the players could have been mlb or nfl pros if they chose that route.
 
Whyachi said:
sorry about these blurry VHS tape highlights, but i watched Tony Gonzalez rip fools up on the hardwood for the Cal Bears. Tony "chose" the NFL and became one of the best big guy recievers in NFL history.

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Some people are just talented. I remember watching Troy Polamalu absolutely destroy my high-school basketball team. It wasn't even a contest.
 
Whyachi said:
sorry about these blurry VHS tape highlights, but i watched Tony Gonzalez rip fools up on the hardwood for the Cal Bears. Tony "chose" the NFL and became one of the best big guy recievers in NFL history.

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It’s definitely more rare.

In general, if you can play both, 99.99% of them will choose the NBA.

NBA money is “different”. Plenty of NFL players have talked about this.

Not to mention the physical toll on one’s body.

Not sure on the full context but I’d assume that’s why Austin is saying what he is saying.
 
Predator said:
It’s definitely more rare.

In general, if you can play both, 99.99% of them will choose the NBA.

NBA money is “different”. Plenty of NFL players have talked about this.

Not to mention the physical toll on one’s body.

Not sure on the full context but I’d assume that’s why Austin is saying what he is saying.
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All i know is the Rivers comment pissed off the NFL guys. There's been jocked out roundtables all over the web lately
 
how we feel about the knicks?

Find it hard not to like the Knicks winning. Knicks haven't been this relevant for a long time. I might have to pull for them to win it even though idk anybody is beating boston.
 
The Suns just Fired Vogel -

at least were not the Suns -- they might be nipping on the Blazers heals for worst run franchise cause they have done a lot to help help Durant but it's put the team between a rock and a hardplace. Also as much as I wanted Dame to remain a Blazer the Suns and KD are a perfect example of how that can go wrong. Now it's possible they might find a way to turn it around but they have like 3 to 5 big contracts and the rest are like nothing so going to be hard to do alot to help KD.
 
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