OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: NOVEMBER 2023

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Samuel said:
you implied that not drafting ausar was a miss—or that drafting scoot was a miss...

(full disclosure—I was team thompson twins throughout the draft process but it's crazy early to litigate scoot's nba success in the league like that, lol)
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No implications just a question. Did they miss a good one? Scoot can still be good. My question is more about losing Dame as well as not making that choice.
In the end what’s done is done. I never wanted to tank let alone choose a guy to replace Dame.
IMHO losing is losing. Tanking breads a losing culture. This is the teams third year tanking and they are worse now than they have been for decades. Maybe they can get the number one pick this year?
 
A Thursday night where both the Warriors and Heat lose would just be lovely.
 
Klay Thompson is COOKED. He shot 1-10 tonight. Are the Warriors just gonna let him walk?

I thought his game would age gracefully since he didn’t rely on athleticism and knew how to move without the ball. But he can’t create any separation to get off shots anymore.
 
OneSport3 said:
Klay Thompson is COOKED. He shot 1-10 tonight. Are the Warriors just gonna let him walk?

I thought his game would age gracefully since he didn’t rely on athleticism and knew how to move without the ball. But he can’t create any separation to get off shots anymore.
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Dude blew his ACL in one leg and then right when he was done rehabbing that blew his achilles in the other. He was 29 when he sustained the first injury and 31 when he played his next game. I don't think most ball players come back from something like that. I realize that KD came back from his achilles but he wasn't coming off of an ACL. I also realize he played a season and a half since then and was an important part of a title team but he wasn't moving like he once did, so it's not a shock that his movement has continued to degrade.
 
OneSport3 said:
Klay Thompson is COOKED. He shot 1-10 tonight. Are the Warriors just gonna let him walk?

I thought his game would age gracefully since he didn’t rely on athleticism and knew how to move without the ball. But he can’t create any separation to get off shots anymore.
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He was terrible out of the gates last year, too.
 
The Warriors don't need elite level shooting from Klay. However, they DO need elite level defense from him. I have no idea, but I've heard others think is defense has degraded severely. If so, Dubs in serious trouble.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
and top 10 defense (9th, actually, ahead of the Heat)
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I might be wrong on this but something tells me the defensive numbers being as good as they are, is at least partially because the offense is just so very bad. Teams don't have to score much more than 100 points to beat the Blazers. How many times have we missed being able to buy our free McNuggets.
 
kjironman1 said:
I might be wrong on this but something tells me the defensive numbers being as good as they are, is at least partially because the offense is just so very bad. Teams don't have to score much more than 100 points to beat the Blazers. How many times have we missed being able to buy our free McNuggets.
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To be clear, you're saying that if our offense was better, that opposing teams' offense would also be better? What exactly are you suggesting here--that teams aren't trying as hard on offense against us because they don't have to?
 
Portland is better on defense this year, but I think their defensive rating is in large part a function of playing a schedule than has been 'loaded' with shitty offensive teams.

speaking of ratings and looking ahead to the lottery and draft:

one of the best predictors of wins and losses is net rating (of course it might be a chicken/egg thing). Portlan's current net rating is -6.9. Last season, a -6.9 net rating equaled around 24-25 wins and a 4th seed in the lottery. The year before, about 24 wins and 5th seed in the lottery. Silver linings I guess
 
andalusian said:
What happens when dame Lillard leaves a team built around him, on both sides of the ball
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it was built around Dame when Portland finished 8th in defensive rating a few seasons ago

it does help defense not to have both Dame and Ant (or CJ) starting in the back-court

it also helps defensive rating to have played a bunch of teams bad at offense. So far, Portland has played 1 game against a team in the top-10 of offense; and only 3 games against teams in the top-half of the league in offense. But they have played 4 games against bottom-5 offenses; and 7 of 11 games against teams in the bottom-10 on offense. That kind of schedule will spit-shine a defensive rating
 
wizenheimer said:
Portland is better on defense this year, but I think their defensive rating is in large part a function of playing a schedule than has been 'loaded' with shitty offensive teams.

speaking of ratings and looking ahead to the lottery and draft:

one of the best predictors of wins and losses is net rating (of course it might be a chicken/egg thing). Portlan's current net rating is -6.9. Last season, a -6.9 net rating equaled around 24-25 wins and a 4th seed in the lottery. The year before, about 24 wins and 5th seed in the lottery. Silver linings I guess
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I don't think we will get 20 wins this season. Just looking at the schedule and predicting that we offload at least Jerami but probably both Jerami and Malcolm at the trade deadline either for prospects that aren't as "win now", picks or both.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
To be clear, you're saying that if our offense was better, that opposing teams' offense would also be better? What exactly are you suggesting here--that teams aren't trying as hard on offense against us because they don't have to?
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Combination of a number of things. First teams are sitting starters against the blazers. I’m wondering if both LeBron and Davis play tonight. Then they rarely have even been in the game in the fourth after the 8 minute mark. Next the Blazers are bad. Really really bad. Teams are playing down to their level.
Nothing to back this up but teams are not getting excited to play the Blazers. This team is barely a road bump on any real road trip or home schedule for 29 teams in the league.
 
Then all terrible teams should have "good" defense. For one reason or another POR ranks ahead of DET and WAS
 
Cugel said:
Then all terrible teams should have "good" defense. For one reason or another POR ranks ahead of DET and WAS
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Maybe Portland has better defense than Det and Wash? Of course that ain’t saying much but it certainly is plausible?
 
kjironman1 said:
I might be wrong on this but something tells me the defensive numbers being as good as they are, is at least partially because the offense is just so very bad. Teams don't have to score much more than 100 points to beat the Blazers. How many times have we missed being able to buy our free McNuggets.
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There is at least some truth to what you are saying. It's hard to know exactly how much. However, it is certainly a pessimistic pov, and I'm trying to stay positive, as much as I realistically can.
 
handiman said:
He was terrible out of the gates last year, too.
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Last year he was simply missing shots. He was getting good looks.

This year, he’s not creating the separation like he previously did to to get off good shots. This year his shot quality is more difficult. As result he’s also dribbling a lot more as well because his initial action/motion is not creating space.
 
Two things about the Wiz: special tournament jersey is the worst design I think I have ever seen. All it's missing is some Comic Sans font. BUT I think Coulibaly will end up being the second best player in this draft.
 
Someone told me today that Khawi Leonard is on the spectrum. It kinda makes sense.
 
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