OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread...... August

[THE HCP]

I think I just saw Melo at the airport, holding a basketball.

 

[THE HCP]

Wonder how many people will quit over this?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[THE HCP]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think I just saw Melo at the airport, holding a basketball.
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This cracks me up so much more than it should.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Wonder how many people will quit over this?

Anyone who would be offended by that already quit a year ago.

BNM

 

[dviss1]

Lol. I was just fucking around. That being said, Zach looks pretty lost on offense. For all this lauding of his footwork (on offense), he just looks plodding and ground bound. I'm hoping for the best. He sure isn't shy about shooting...but any 14 a game stuff is few years off.

Hell, Nurk averaged 14 per last season; it ain't easy.

No he doesn't. This is just wrong. Missing wide open jumpers does not equal "lost".

C'mon bro.

 

[dviss1]

You can't fuck around on here any longer. You used to be able to, but now you just get attacked immediately and get called a victim if you say anything back

Really??? Did you see my post??? I was fucking around... Jesus...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

No he doesn't. This is just wrong. Missing wide open jumpers does not equal "lost".

C'mon bro.

Yeah, I don’t think Zach looks like Meyers who just doesn’t look like he knows what’s going on...
He just can’t get the ball to go through the hoop at this point. I have said it before but I like Zach’s footwork around the basket and I hope Stotts lets him play down there more he had quite a few nice post moves. I think he may hit an occasional 3 but let him get som easy buckets inside.
I’m cautious about Zach’s offensive game and if it’ll come around but he has good bbiq in my opinion

 

[dviss1]

Lol. I was just fucking around. That being said, Zach looks pretty lost on offense. For all this lauding of his footwork (on offense), he just looks plodding and ground bound. I'm hoping for the best. He sure isn't shy about shooting...but any 14 a game stuff is few years off.

Hell, Nurk averaged 14 per last season; it ain't easy.

If you read my post, what else could it be but fucking around?

"Theory of basketball relativity"?

I guess it wasn't a funny joke...

 

[dviss1]

I think it's very possible that Collins won't manage that, but still be a good pick. I see him ending up as our Nick Collison.

Like, why do people say this??

He literally plays nothing like Collison... At all...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Like, why do people say this??

He literally plays nothing like Collison... At all...

Edit: just want to say sorry I keep replying to all your posts, I’m not stalking you lol. You’re just actually talking about basketball.
I can see the comparison in terms of attitude, both Collins and Collison were / are tough, not going to back down type of guys.
Collins ceiling is higher than Collisons ever was. In fact after the “enforcer” part collison didn’t have a lot of nba level skills, but he played his role well, knew who he was and played inside of that.

 

[dviss1]

Edit: just want to say sorry I keep replying to all your posts, I’m not stalking you lol. You’re just actually talking about basketball.
I can see the comparison in terms of attitude, both Collins and Collison were / are tough, not going to back down type of guys.
Collins ceiling is higher than Collisons ever was. In fact after the “enforcer” part collison didn’t have a lot of nba level skills, but he played his role well, knew who he was and played inside of that.

Don't apologize for responding to a post in an online forum lol!

I see it attitude wise but their basketball skillsets aren't similar in any way.

 

[dviss1]

I think I just saw Melo at the airport, holding a basketball.
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[Propagandist]

No he doesn't. This is just wrong. Missing wide open jumpers does not equal "lost".

C'mon bro.

Can't anything in here go without saying? Obviously I'm not talking about open jumpers.

Just clear your mind and picture him on the post. Underwhelming and predictable. Occasionally he pulls out some terrific drive spin lefty move, but mostly it's him floundering like it's Summer League. Listen, I want him to improve, but in college he BARELY got his looks off in the post. His margin of error half the time was like a millimeter. I just think the NBA is WAY faster and guys are WAY WAY more athletic.

That being said, I think you're right about bulk. A bigger Zach means knocking guys off balance and getting shit done. I'm hoping for this.

A couple of qualities I think will help him the most is his motor and his determination. He certainly seems like a motivated dude. These are attributes that are a choice, but a surprising number of players elect to coast. And he's coachable.

(I think my Zach snark arises from Olshey throwing him into the fire at Ed Davis's expense. I wanted Ed Davis here forever.)

 

[dviss1]

Can't anything in here go without saying? Obviously I'm not talking about open jumpers.

Just clear your mind and picture him on the post. Underwhelming and predictable. Occasionally he pulls out some terrific drive spin lefty move, but mostly it's him floundering like it's Summer League. Listen, I want him to improve, but in college he BARELY got his looks off in the post. His margin of error half the time was like a millimeter. I just think the NBA is WAY faster and guys are WAY WAY more athletic.

That being said, I think you're right about bulk. A bigger Zach means knocking guys off balance and getting shit done. I'm hoping for this.

A couple of qualities I think will help him the most is his motor and his determination. He certainly seems like a motivated dude. These are attributes that are a choice, but a surprising number of players elect to coast. And he's coachable.

(I think my Zach snark arises from Olshey throwing him into the fire at Ed Davis's expense. I wanted Ed Davis here forever.)

Our eye tests have rendered different information.

My conclusion is that all he needs is to get stronger. Every single issue he has is related to strength/endurance.

 

[blue9]

Wonder how many people will quit over this?

I wish it was like Thanos' snap...but we'd probably be left with the worst 50%.

 

[tester551]

(I think my Zach snark arises from Olshey throwing him into the fire at Ed Davis's expense. I wanted Ed Davis here forever.)

I understand this and appreciate it. I wanted Ed to stay too. I think it's a HUGE mistake to let him go.... but don't let that influence your opinion of Zach. Zach is going to be a good player (solid starter level), at minimum.

 

[BonesJones]

As 20 year old rookies Lopez shot better from 2 pts % and at the FT line. Lopez is not a 3 or shooter.

You hope the 10th pick in a loaded draft will be a shit ton better offensive player than Robin freakin' Lopez, but why would some be expected to think that now?

So he only shot better because he didn't shoot outside of open layups, and because his game transferred better at the beginning.... that doesn't prove a point.

 

[BonesJones]

Yeah, of course. At least more versatile. (I was just teasing about using the per 36 in this case.) ALTHOUGH, I can't see him making a huge leap this season in efficiency. An efficient 14 was the original discussion and while I joke, it does seem crazy presumptuous to think that a guy that often looks lost on offense and shot 40% from the field and 31% from 3 is going to be efficient any time soon.

You said he'd never average 14... no mention of efficiency.

Some players improve efficiency fast.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[andalusian]

I think I just saw Melo at the airport, holding a basketball.
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You sure he is not just very excited to see you, you sexy beast?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'll give you this. It is not easy for a big man, especially off the bench to average 14 points, especially on a team where most of the offense comes through the guards.

Collins is going to be good. Better than Lopez.





I fuck around on here all the time. When its funny its funny when its not its not.

When its pro Blazers its pro Blazers

 

[Mediocre Man]

So he only shot better ecause he didn't shoot outside of open layups, and because his game transferred better at the beginning.... that doesn't prove a point.

Wasn't trying to prove anything.

 

[tlongII]

Your silly opinion isn't reality.

If Robin Lopez can average 14pts per 36 for a career, I think Zach could average 14ppg for a season.

Dude has offensive potential. He's still 20 years old. Ruling him out from being able to score 14ppg is ridiculous.

I would like to compliment you on spelling ridiculous correctly.

 

[BonesJones]

I would like to compliment you on spelling ridiculous correctly.

Is that the correct spelling? Or are you being sarcastic? Normally I spell it wrong I think.

 

[BonesJones]

Can't anything in here go without saying? Obviously I'm not talking about open jumpers.

Just clear your mind and picture him on the post. Underwhelming and predictable. Occasionally he pulls out some terrific drive spin lefty move, but mostly it's him floundering like it's Summer League. Listen, I want him to improve, but in college he BARELY got his looks off in the post. His margin of error half the time was like a millimeter. I just think the NBA is WAY faster and guys are WAY WAY more athletic.

That being said, I think you're right about bulk. A bigger Zach means knocking guys off balance and getting shit done. I'm hoping for this.

A couple of qualities I think will help him the most is his motor and his determination. He certainly seems like a motivated dude. These are attributes that are a choice, but a surprising number of players elect to coast. And he's coachable.

(I think my Zach snark arises from Olshey throwing him into the fire at Ed Davis's expense. I wanted Ed Davis here forever.)

Did you regularly watch Gonzaga? Because as someone who did, I didn't see what you're talking about. A lot of time he barely had any room to work with compared to what he'll have in the NBA.

 

[THE HCP]

I wish it was like Thanos' snap...but we'd probably be left with the worst 50%.

You sure that already didn't happen 2 years ago?

 

[Propagandist]

Did you regularly watch Gonzaga? Because as someone who did, I didn't see what you're talking about. A lot of time he barely had any room to work with compared to what he'll have in the NBA.

No, I didn't. I utilized the Google machine and considering he only made 135 shots total in college, I figure I saw most of them. So you're saying he's got sweet post moves that the highlight reel does not reveal? Like secret moves? I like his baby hooks and that drop step, but watch for yourself: millimeters. Guys just stand there with their hands up. Regardless, strength might change this and make up for his lack of explosiveness. But if Summer League revealed anything, it's that it'll be a while. I hope not though, and he'll get his chances, so we'll see.

 

[BonesJones]

No, I didn't. I utilized the Google machine and considering he only made 135 shots total in college, I figure I saw most of them. So you're saying he's got sweet post moves that the highlight reel does not reveal? Like secret moves? I like his baby hooks and that drop step, but watch for yourself: millimeters. Guys just stand there with their hands up. Regardless, strength might change this and make up for his lack of explosiveness. But if Summer League revealed anything, it's that it'll be a while. I hope not though, and he'll get his chances, so we'll see.

The fact that you didn't reference his up and under means you definitely missed a few.