OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD: December 2019

[wizenheimer]

And how much of that is schedule related?

I don't know...tell me....?

 

[B-Roy]

I don't know...tell me....?

I haven't done the research for two years prior, but I know last year the Jazz had a brutal early season schedule and an extremely easy post-all-star break schedule, so there's probably a bit more to it than just them being good in second halves of the season.

 

[wizenheimer]

I haven't done the research for two years prior, but I know last year the Jazz had a brutal early season schedule and an extremely easy post-all-star break schedule, so there's probably a bit more to it than just them being good in second halves of the season.

sounds like Portland

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[THE HCP]

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[BlazerBeav]

Jazz got blown out again, this time by Philly.

 

[THE HCP]

I need a numbers guy or whoever understands this chart to explain this to me........ I see Dame up there with the leagues best......but as many negative posts as Harden gets on here, is this a good thing? And look closely CJ is way at the end...... All I've heard on here is how bad of a season he is having, or is he up there because of so many minutes he's played?.....THE HCP is confused.

 

[THE HCP]

This one too.......

 

[THE HCP]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I need a numbers guy or whoever understands this chart to explain this to me........ I see Dame up there with the leagues best......but as many negative posts as Harden gets on here, is this a good thing? And look closely CJ is way at the end...... All I've heard on here is how bad of a season he is having, or is he up there because of so many minutes he's played?.....THE HCP is confused.

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Yes, CJ's at the far left because of minutes. He's down low because his TPA (total points added) is low, because he had a very poor start to the season.

Most negative posts about Harden are not about his impact, but his style. Nobody denies that he helps his team win games; most just hate the way he often does it, the way he exploits rules/officials to generate foul calls.

 

[andalusian]

.....THE HCP is confused.

Look at the simple things, in the first picture, you can see that Lebron is doing manual work, he is wearing his harden hat.



The 2nd picture shows you that the Celtics changed from Kyrie as their PG... Now, it's Kemba.

The same way you can see that Luka is coming for the MVP title, and is stalking the current MVP.

Does this help?

 

[julius]

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Kind of looks like what a lot of have been saying. The teams defense, although improving, is a big issue.

 

[julius]

This one too.......

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Is this saying Damian is a worse defender than Harden?

 

[THE HCP]

Yes, CJ's at the far left because of minutes. He's down low because his TPA (total points added) is low, because he had a very poor start to the season.

Most negative posts about Harden are not about his impact, but his style. Nobody denies that he helps his team win games; most just hate the way he often does it, the way he exploits rules/officials to generate foul calls.

So TPA measures the player on BOTH ends? So if said player is scoring a ton, but his team played shitty defense, does it negatively impact them?

 

[THE HCP]

Is this saying Damian is a worse defender than Harden?

See that's what it looks like to me. Surprising.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So TPA measures the player on BOTH ends? So if said player is scoring a ton, but his team played shitty defense, does it negatively impact them?

Precisely. The second graph you posted shows both halves of TPA--offensive points added (left to right) and defensive points saved (bottom to top).

 

[THE HCP]

Precisely. The second graph you posted shows both halves of TPA--offensive points added (left to right) and defensive points saved (bottom to top).

Then this is a stat I don't much faith in. A player shouldn't be hurt by his team being bad defensively overall. Am I wrong? And shouldn't be rewarded for the opposite. Shit so any player on the Clippers is getting a boost because they play alongside PG13,Beverly and Kawahi? Am I not getting this?

 

[andalusian]

Then this is a stat I don't much faith in. A player shouldn't be hurt by his team being bad defensively overall. Am I wrong? And shouldn't be rewarded for the opposite. Shit so any player on the Clippers is getting a boost because they play alongside PG13,Beverly and Kawahi? Am I not getting this?

These calculations are based on individual OBPM and DBPM - (Box plus/minus) ratings adjusted to the number of possession a player was a part of - it is for the individual within the team.

https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

 

[THE HCP]

These calculations are based on individual OBPM and DBPM - (Box plus/minus) ratings adjusted to the number of possession a player was a part of - it is for the individual within the team.

https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

Gotcha.... ya THE HCP has never liked the +/-

 

[Labinot41]

Gotcha.... ya THE HCP has never liked the +/-

What does the hcp mean?? Why "the" ??

 

[wizenheimer]

What does the hcp mean?? Why "the" ??

HCP = He's Completely Psychotic

 

[THE HCP]

What does the hcp mean?? Why "the" ??

This is exactly why we need a FAQ thread for rooks. Mandatory reading. Top 10 threads of all time. Highlighting the history, ins and outs of S2. Learn the forum, then post.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This is exactly why we need a FAQ thread for rooks. Mandatory reading. Top 10 threads of all time. Highlighting the history, ins and outs of S2. Learn the forum, then post.

Would you mind translating that into German for him?

 

[SIeepwalker]

What does the hcp mean?? Why "the" ??

THE Heavily Cucked Poster

 

[tlongII]

Everybody knows it's THE HPV, not THE HCP.

 

[THE HCP]

Would you mind translating that into German for him?

Ah, he's in Germany. Gotcha. Damn, they make quality cars.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ah, he's in Germany. Gotcha. Damn, they make quality cars.

Oh yeah, that's right--you do love you some Audi, don't you?

 

[THE HCP]

Oh yeah, that's right--you do love you some Audi, don't you?

As much as my kids.

 

[THE HCP]