Official Around The NBA Thread.....July

[BonesJones]

Maybe, and I know him being paired up with Drummond was maybe not the best situation. He would probably be an upgrade over Aminu - Though I think Aminu’s defense is better in terms of being able to switch. I’d rather have Butler or Kawhi if possible and I think those were the other names.

I think you keep Aminu in that situation:

ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard
LAC Gets: Caleb Swanigan. 2019 POR 1st
POR Gets: Tobias Harris, Miles Plumlee (TPE)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
Harkless (24) / Turner (16) / Aminu (8)
Harris (32) / Aminu (16)
Nurkic (30) / Collins (18)

 

[Cippy91]

 

[Driew]

I'll wait for Woj.

 

[Cippy91]

I'll wait for Woj.

Woj was shams mentor and is as reliable as woj

 

[Cippy91]

 

[SwissBlazer]

Must happen now. If not the relation between DDR and Toronto will be broken after this.

 

[Cippy91]

Must happen now. If not the relation between DDR and Toronto will be broken after this.

It honestly looks like it's probably a done deal and we will hear of the complete trade by morning

 

[Cippy91]

 

[Cippy91]

So basically Toronto is taking a swing at Kawhi knowing they have to blow it up anyways so if Kawhi leaves next summer, doesn't matter they still rebuild and if he stays they build around Kawhi. Interesting. Man how shitty would it be to be loyal to a franchise for so long as the star player only to read or know you are about to be traded? I don't think that's something Dame will ever experience. CJ hasn't experienced it yet which is surprising at this point.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don’t get it. DeRozan isn’t good enough to keep them in contention. They should be blowing it up.

 

[Cippy91]

lol

 

[Natebishop3]

lol

Hahaha

 

[hoopsjock]

lol

This is the ultimate "no shit" moment. If he didn't want to play in SA why would he want to go to Toronto?

 

[theprunetang]

And people shit on Olshey for not wanting to offer CJ for him..........

 

[Cippy91]

Does anybody else think Kawhi is coming off very vintage Lamarcus on this whole thing? like we get it dude, you are quiet and what not but there has been a whole lot of shit coming out about you the past year. Just do an interview so you don't look like a douche here

 

[jlprk]

DeRozan replaces Tony Parker. Great for the Spurs, but Aldridge won't like sharing the ball with another Brandon Roy.

 

[theprunetang]

Does anybody else think Kawhi is coming off very vintage Lamarcus on this whole thing? like we get it dude, you are quiet and what not but there has been a whole lot of shit coming out about you the past year. Just do an interview so you don't look like a douche here

100%

And some people want to give up good players and assets for him with no guarantee of him not only resigning here, but even liking the area at all.

 

[Natebishop3]

Does anybody else think Kawhi is coming off very vintage Lamarcus on this whole thing? like we get it dude, you are quiet and what not but there has been a whole lot of shit coming out about you the past year. Just do an interview so you don't look like a douche here

His personality is really coming off as mega diva. Also he has never come out and set the record straight. That’s extremely concerning.

 

[Cippy91]

And people shit on Olshey for not wanting to offer CJ for him..........

I think Kawhi is the opposite of PG in this situation last year. I think Kawhi ends up leaving toronto or anywhere else that isn't specifically where he wants to be. I am not giving CJ up for a rental. As amazing as a player Kawhi is, I don't like the way he has been carrying himself, too mysterious. On top of that we don't know the extent of his injury. Kawhi could be traded and then sit out all year with Toronto. HUGE risk for Toronto. Fine for the Spurs as they will remain competitive enough to get bounced out of the first round

 

[jlprk]

And people shit on Olshey for not wanting to offer CJ for him..........

I don't get what you mean. It took a much better player than McCollum, DeRozan, to get Kawhi.

 

[Cippy91]

The Toronto Raptors are finalizing a deal to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard in a trade package that includes All-Star DeMar DeRozan, league sources told ESPN.

An agreement in principle could be reached as soon as Wednesday, league sources said.

Leonard and DeRozan are both aware that an agreement could be imminent, and neither is expressing enthusiasm for the deal, league sources said.

Toronto and San Antonio have been talking about the trade for two weeks, and several incarnations of packages have been discussed, league sources said.

Sources close to DeRozan told ESPN's Chris Haynes that DeRozan met with Toronto brass in Las Vegas during summer league and was told he would not be traded.

Leonard has been clear that he plans to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers in free agency next summer, so Raptors president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri is taking a significant risk in pursuing the trade.

Leonard was led to believe by management that he would not be traded, sources told Haynes.

DeRozan has three years and $83 million left on his contract, including an Early Termination Option for the 2020-21 season.

 

[hoopsjock]

I don't get what you mean. It took a much better player than McCollum, DeRozan, to get Kawhi.

Um you sure about that?

Despite his size, DeRozan is a bad defender just like CJ so that side of the ball is a wash.

DeRozan gets a little over 1 rebound per game more and gets to the free throw line more often.

Pretty much every other category is even or in CJ's favor. CJ has a huge advantage shooting 3 pointers too where DeRozan shot under 29% last year.

 

[jlprk]

Leonard was led to believe by management that he would not be traded, sources told Haynes.

Because they didn't expect an offer like DeRozen. Spurs making out like bandits in this deal.

 

[jlprk]

Um you sure about that?

Despite his size, DeRozan is a bad defender just like CJ so that side of the ball is a wash.

DeRozan gets a little over 1 rebound per game more and gets to the free throw line more often.

Pretty much every other category is even or in CJ's favor. CJ has a huge advantage shooting 3 pointers too where DeRozan shot under 29% last year.

Would McCollum lead a team to the top of the East?

 

[Cippy91]

Would McCollum lead a team to the top of the East?

Tough to say, we have never seen CJ on his own except for when Dame is out. East is weak. However I don't know about the TOP of the east. Depends on the team around him

 

[SIeepwalker]

Would McCollum lead a team to the top of the East?

swich derozan and cj and the raptors don't skip a beat

 

[hoopsjock]

Would McCollum lead a team to the top of the East?

Um yeah, I basically just told you that CJ is better or at least his equal.

Lowry, Ibaka, Valanciunas, OG, Miles, Wright, etc, LeBronto has some decent talent.

 

[theprunetang]

I don't get what you mean. It took a much better player than McCollum, DeRozan, to get Kawhi.

My point being that CJ and DeRozan are fairly equal, minor quibbling aside. And reports are out that Leonard has no desire to play in Toronto. I can't imagine Portland somehow making his wishlist of cities, as Toronto has much more culture (think specifically Turkish culture). Therefore, you can make the assumption from my post that people want to shit on Olshey for not trading away a very valuable player and asset for a guy that wouldn't want to be here and is a free agent after the season.

 

[jlprk]

My point being that CJ and DeRozan are fairly equal, minor quibbling aside. And reports are out that Leonard has no desire to play in Toronto. I can't imagine Portland somehow making his wishlist of cities, as Toronto has much more culture (think specifically Turkish culture). Therefore, you can make the assumption from my post that people want to shit on Olshey for not trading away a very valuable player and asset for a guy that wouldn't want to be here and is a free agent after the season.

I agree that Kawhi won't stay. The Spurs made out like bandits. They are now another superteam (if you include coaching).

 

[Natebishop3]

I agree that Kawhi won't stay. The Spurs made out like bandits. They are now another superteam (if you include coaching).

Nah. DeRozan does nothing for them. He's not even remotely a replacement for Kawhi, and they didn't really add anything else this summer. They're done.

DeRozan is almost 29. He averaged 23 ppg last season on 45.6% from the field and 31% from three. He's not a defensive player. He can't shoot the three. He's a free throw guy. He's James Harden ultra light. He's a fringe All-Star. They're trading out a top 5 player for a one trick pony that won't get them any closer to a championship.

I think they'll move him somewhere else.