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noknobs said:
Agreed. But again, it's not like players have never said one thing and done another.
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I think the anger is that he took a pay cut for the team to sign someone to help.
 
SIeepwalker said:
The reverse Aldridge
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Well, we know he lied to the fans but we don’t know what he told the team. I am convinced that he told them he wanted out years before he left and they rolled the dice and called his bluff..... only he wasn’t bluffing.
 
noknobs said:
Not sure why players would be upset about DeRozan being traded and saying there's no loyalty. Talk about hypocritical. Players are allowed to show no loyalty but teams aren't?
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When a player is under contract, he an employee of a team! If he gets traded it's like him being transferred from one company location to another. He still earns his millions.
Once his contract is up and is a UFA is can sign where he wants. Its not like he's signed a non-compete clause and cant go to a competitor, its more like what company location do you want to work for.
 
Hoopguru said:
Once his contract is up and is a UFA is can sign where he wants.
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He can sign where he wants. And teams can trade him when and where they want. There's no loyalty either way, that's my point.

Hoopguru said:
When a player is under contract, he an employee of a team! If he gets traded it's like him being transferred from one company location to another. He still earns his millions.
Once his contract is up and is a UFA is can sign where he wants. Its not like he's signed a non-compete clause and cant go to a competitor, its more like what company location do you want to work for.
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Uh, no.

The Lakers and Blazers are not the same company. You can't make an analogy between most businesses and the NBA. If you work in an office it's not like your employer can trade you to a direct competitor on the other side of the country in exchange for other office workers they feel are a better fit.
 
For whatever reason, I thought I there was an article (could've been a fake headline) saying that no one on the Raptors was untouchable. Could be wrong, but it's a moot point.
 
Cippy91 said:
Does anybody else think Kawhi is coming off very vintage Lamarcus on this whole thing? like we get it dude, you are quiet and what not but there has been a whole lot of shit coming out about you the past year. Just do an interview so you don't look like a douche here
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Prior to this entire fiasco, he was my favorite player in the game. Very refreshing to see a player who's pretty efficient on both sides of the floor. Plus, he didn't have to do any trash-talking (never been my style, but just my opinion) as he let his play do the talking. Now? I lost a LOT of respect for him given how he has behaved throughout this entire situation and never did an interview or anything like you mentioned. Also, I'm starting to wonder, does he even want to play basketball? He doesn't want to play for the Spurs anymore, he made it clear he doesn't want to play for the Raptors (tough luck and suck it up), he doesn't want to play for a superteam (respectable), there are some reports saying he doesn't want to play for the Lakers since LaBron arrived (*shrugs shoulders*), not sure he if truly wanted to play for the Clippers, etc.

UKRAINEFAN said:
What do people think about what Magic Johnson said on the telecast last night? He said that after watching all the playoffs, that he felt that defense and toughness were more important than shooting and so that is the direction he is going. I guess my first thought is that toughness and shooting are what's important. Do we have any good shooters who are also "tough"?
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I think I understood where he was getting at. To me, I don't think he's saying that shooting isn't important (I mean seriously, who in their RIGHT MIND would think that shit in today's league?), but it arguably more important for a team to play great defense and be mentally tough. There is no better example of this than the game 7s in BOTH conferences. In the West, we had a team in the Rockets who had great shooting, but when it counted most, their shooting was fucking garbage and crumbled in the way that a Harden-led team would (LMAOOOOOOOO at 27 missed 3s). It's not like the Rockets were playing great defense. In the East, we had a team in the Celtics who also had good shooting, but essentially choked. However, they kept it close because of their team defense and mental toughness (never over til it's over) until LeBron had enough. Just my two cents.
 
noknobs said:
Not sure why players would be upset about DeRozan being traded and saying there's no loyalty. Talk about hypocritical. Players are allowed to show no loyalty but teams aren't?
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Yeah hey Demar, you got traded because another player showed less loyalty than any player I can remember.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, we know he lied to the fans but we don’t know what he told the team. I am convinced that he told them he wanted out years before he left and they rolled the dice and called his bluff..... only he wasn’t bluffing.
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We know this as fact
 
Eastoff said:
What about, with pieces?
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I just have a hard time imagining Olshey trading his golden boy for anyone. Our roster shows he loves his picks and he seems completely enamored with this backcourt. Furthermore, he's immune and even defiant to public opinion. Let me put it this way: I'd be very surprised if CJ was traded during Olshey's tenure here.
 
Propagandist said:
I just have a hard time imagining Olshey trading his golden boy for anyone. Our roster shows he loves his picks and he seems completely enamored with this backcourt. Furthermore, he's immune and even defiant to public opinion. Let me put it this way: I'd be very surprised if CJ was traded during Olshey's tenure here.
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This is your opinion, and you've every right to it, but just know that it's not based on anything more than supposition on your part. You're not alone. A lot of guys around here see nothing happening with the Blazers and come to the conclusion that Olshey is just too in love with his own players. His history as a GM doesn't support that notion since he's been willing to make major deals elsewhere when opportunities became available. Eric Gordon was a nice player for the Clippers, but Olshey didn't blink at sending him down the road when the chance came to get CP3. He's let popular players and friends of Dame's go multiple times here in Portland. The key ingredient to a deal getting done is having the right assets at the right time to get the player you want. That hasn't happened here for a major player yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't in the future.
 
Propagandist said:
I just have a hard time imagining Olshey trading his golden boy for anyone. Our roster shows he loves his picks and he seems completely enamored with this backcourt. Furthermore, he's immune and even defiant to public opinion. Let me put it this way: I'd be very surprised if CJ was traded during Olshey's tenure here.
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That's a fair point. At least with CJ he has some reason to keep him. The situation with Meyers is just disgusting.
 
e_blazer said:
This is your opinion, and you've every right to it, but just know that it's not based on anything more than supposition on your part. You're not alone. A lot of guys around here see nothing happening with the Blazers and come to the conclusion that Olshey is just too in love with his own players. His history as a GM doesn't support that notion since he's been willing to make major deals elsewhere when opportunities became available. Eric Gordon was a nice player for the Clippers, but Olshey didn't blink at sending him down the road when the chance came to get CP3. He's let popular players and friends of Dame's go multiple times here in Portland. The key ingredient to a deal getting done is having the right assets at the right time to get the player you want. That hasn't happened here for a major player yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't in the future.
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I used first person, no? Wtf do you want from me?
 
e_blazer said:
This is your opinion, and you've every right to it, but just know that it's not based on anything more than supposition on your part. You're not alone. A lot of guys around here see nothing happening with the Blazers and come to the conclusion that Olshey is just too in love with his own players. His history as a GM doesn't support that notion since he's been willing to make major deals elsewhere when opportunities became available. Eric Gordon was a nice player for the Clippers, but Olshey didn't blink at sending him down the road when the chance came to get CP3. He's let popular players and friends of Dame's go multiple times here in Portland. The key ingredient to a deal getting done is having the right assets at the right time to get the player you want. That hasn't happened here for a major player yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't in the future.
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It should be noted that the CP3 trade is the only significant trade Olshey has ever made...and that was 1. while with the Clippers 2. in 2011 and 3. assisted by David Stern. (The other biggish trade was Baron Davis and a first for nobody. The first turned into Kyrie Irving. It is only fair to note that that trade seemed forced by Sterling's dislike of Baron Davis...)
 
Propagandist said:
It should be noted that the CP3 trade is the only significant trade Olshey has ever made...and that was 1. while with the Clippers 2. in 2011 and 3. assisted by David Stern. (The other biggish trade was Baron Davis and a first for nobody. The first turned into Kyrie Irving. It is only fair to note that that trade seemed forced by Sterling's dislike of Baron Davis...)
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Every time I post something like this I get tagged as an apologist for NO. I don't intend it that way, but I do realize that he can only play the hand he has and let's face it, he's only got a pair of Kings and a bunch of not much else. Admittedly, some of what he's holding is his own fault due to playing other hands poorly, but still, I can't fault him for not landing one of the big FAs this summer when he never had the assets to do it. (Yes, Gronk, I know you think he could have traded CJ for Leonard or Butler (or maybe even LeBron) despite the fact that you yourself think CJ is only a mid-level talent).
 
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It would appear MP JR had back surgery last week.

Google the link, think it was Steve Aschburner
 
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