OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD: November 2019

[andalusian]

I'm pretty sure that's rape

No sir, Mrs. HCP is @HailBlazers sister - what he means by 'it' is disappointment.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Dallas is so lucky to have this kid. Why can’t we have generational talents like this

 

[wizenheimer]

Dallas is so lucky to have this kid. Why can’t we have generational talents like this

1 POR LaRue Martin 2 BUF Bob McAdoo 10 BOS Paul Westphal 12 MIL Julius Erving

2 POR Sam Bowie 3 CHI Michael Jordan 4 DAL Sam Perkins 5 PHI Charles Barkley 16 UTA John Stockton

14 POR Walter Berry 15 UTA Dell Curry 27 DET Dennis Rodman 29 CLE Johnny Newman 46 PHO Jeff Hornacek

17 POR Ronnie Murphy 18 NYK Mark Jackson

22 POR Byron Irvin 26 LAL Vlade Divac

21 POR James Robinson 24 HOU Sam Cassell 37 LAL Nick Van Exel

8 POR Shawn Respert 10 MIA Kurt Thomas 15 DEN Brent Barry 21 PHO Michael Finley

18 POR Chris Anstey 23 SEA Bobby Jackson 42 PHO Stephen Jackson

52 POR Roberto Bergersen 57 SAS Manu Ginóbili

21 POR Qyntel Woods 23 DET Tayshaun Prince

13 POR Sebastian Telfair 25 BOS Tony Allen 26 SAC Kevin Martin

3 UTA Deron Williams 4 NOH Chris Paul 6 POR Martell Webster (blazers had 3rd pick & traded down)

30 POR Joel Freeland 47 UTA Paul Millsap

1 POR Greg Oden 2 SEA Kevin Durant 3 ATL Al Horford 24 POR Rudy Fernández 48 LAL Marc Gasol

21 POR Nolan Smith 22 DEN Kenneth Faried 23 HOU Nikola Mirotić 30 CHI Jimmy Butler 31 MIA Bojan Bogdanović

11 POR Meyers Leonard 35 GSW Draymond Green

10 POR CJ McCollum 15 MIL Giannis Antetokounmpo

23 POR Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 32 HOU Montrezl Harrell

and before people get defensive: 1) I'm just playing around...2) yeah, I know every other team has their failures and successes. It's just that Portland's successes are mostly moderate while many of their failures are spectacular....3) yeah, injuries, like shit, happen

 

[Dougnsalem]

1 POR LaRue Martin 2 BUF Bob McAdoo 10 BOS Paul Westphal 12 MIL Julius Erving

2 POR Sam Bowie 3 CHI Michael Jordan 4 DAL Sam Perkins 5 PHI Charles Barkley 16 UTA John Stockton

14 POR Walter Berry 15 UTA Dell Curry 27 DET Dennis Rodman 29 CLE Johnny Newman 46 PHO Jeff Hornacek

17 POR Ronnie Murphy 18 NYK Mark Jackson

22 POR Byron Irvin 26 LAL Vlade Divac

21 POR James Robinson 24 HOU Sam Cassell 37 LAL Nick Van Exel

8 POR Shawn Respert 10 MIA Kurt Thomas 15 DEN Brent Barry 21 PHO Michael Finley

18 POR Chris Anstey 23 SEA Bobby Jackson 42 PHO Stephen Jackson

52 POR Roberto Bergersen 57 SAS Manu Ginóbili

21 POR Qyntel Woods 23 DET Tayshaun Prince

13 POR Sebastian Telfair 25 BOS Tony Allen 26 SAC Kevin Martin

3 UTA Deron Williams 4 NOH Chris Paul 6 POR Martell Webster (blazers had 3rd pick & traded down)

30 POR Joel Freeland 47 UTA Paul Millsap

1 POR Greg Oden 2 SEA Kevin Durant 3 ATL Al Horford 24 POR Rudy Fernández 48 LAL Marc Gasol

21 POR Nolan Smith 22 DEN Kenneth Faried 23 HOU Nikola Mirotić 30 CHI Jimmy Butler 31 MIA Bojan Bogdanović

11 POR Meyers Leonard 35 GSW Draymond Green

10 POR CJ McCollum 15 MIL Giannis Antetokounmpo

23 POR Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 32 HOU Montrezl Harrell

and before people get defensive: 1) I'm just playing around...2) yeah, I know every other team has their failures and successes. It's just that Portland's successes are mostly moderate while many of their failures are spectacular....3) yeah, injuries, like shit, happen

Cool list. Don't think I've ever seen so detailed before. Just bits and pieces here and there. Just IMHO- Bowie was a great choice. Clyde and Jordan together, would never have worked....

 

[illmatic99]

Drafting Dame #6 AFTER MKG/Waiters/Thomas Robinson is not an example of "moderate success," especially considering how that pick was obtained.

Odd that @wizenheimer did not give that a shoutout considering Dame will end up being the best Blazer ever?

How about drafting Drexler 14th?

 

[wizenheimer]

Drafting Dame #6 AFTER MKG/Waiters/Thomas Robinson is not an example of "moderate success," especially considering how that pick was obtained.

Odd that @wizenheimer did not give that a shoutout considering Dame will end up being the best Blazer ever?

How about drafting Drexler 14th?

as I said, I was playing around in response to a post asking about why Portland couldn't get generational talent. I said 'don't get defensive' because I knew some would want to defend Blazer honor. For certain, it's only one side of the coin....although a side that has Larue Martin instead of McAdoo and Dr J; Bowie instead of MJ and Barkely; and Oden instead of Durant is extremely top heavy and unlikely to be offset from anything on the other side. You can add CJ instead of Giannis to that side of the coin too

also:

20 POR Jan van Breda Kolff 22 WSB Truck Robinson 25 ATL John Drew 40 PHO George Gervin
10 POR Ronnie Lester 11 DAL Kiki Vandeweghe 17 DET Larry Drew

now, for the other side of the coin so Blazer honor is somewhat restored:

2 IND Steve Stipanovich 6 GSW Russell Cross 8 DET Antoine Carr 13 KCK Ennis Whatley 14 POR Clyde Drexler

a bunch of busts 46 POR Jerome Kersey

5 ATL Jon Koncak 6 SAC Joe Kleine 11 CHI Keith Lee 12 WSB 14 SAS Alfredrick Hughes 17 DAL Uwe Blab 19 HOU Steve Harris 24 POR Terry Porter

a bunch of busts 60 POR Dražen Petrović
a bunch of busts 36 POR Clifford Robinson

1 TOR Andrea Bargnani 2 CHI LaMarcus Aldridge 3 CHA Adam Morrison 4 POR Tyrus Thomas 5 ATL Shelden Williams 6 MIN Brandon Roy 7 BOS Randy Foye

2 CHA Michael Kidd-Gilchrist WAS 4 CLE Dion Waiters 5 SAC Thomas Robinson 6 POR Damian Lillard

 

[KingSpeed]

Style wise I find him similar to Joe Ingles. Obviously way more skilled though.

The only thing that Ingles and Doncic have in common is their skin color.

 

[KingSpeed]

I see that a little bit, but Roy was capable of being very explosive...he just picked his spots. I haven't seen the same change of pace from Doncic, but maybe I just haven't seen enough.

If you are right, though, Doncic better stay healthy, otherwise your comparison validates my theory that the league will figure him out. Once Roy's knees were shot and he lost the subtle fakes, his pocket was getting picked left and right.

Doncic is a hundred times better than Brandon Roy was. Doncic is a Top 3 player in the league. Roy never was.

 

[THE HCP]

Off season moves have really worked out for the Rockets and Lakers. Great read

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/11/22/n...cialflow_twitter_si&utm_campaign=thecrossover

 

[DDolla]

Man what’s wrong with the Spurs? It’s not like they have injuries or something? They have the same team that made the playoffs last year.

 

[THE HCP]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Oh... man that sucks...

 

[illmatic99]

Spurs also at 5-11 after an 8 game losing streak

 

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[blazerfan11]

Ha ha ! Harden complaining about Beverly flopping in the game tonight.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Thats good news.

 

[KingSpeed]

So glad Kemba is okay. I was bummed when I heard about it.

Nets lost their last 3 games with Kyrie. They're 3-1 without him now.

 

[BonesJones]

So glad Kemba is okay. I was bummed when I heard about it.

Nets lost their last 3 games with Kyrie. They're 3-1 without him now.

The 3 games they lost with Kyrie:
@ DEN
@ UTA
@ PHX


The 3 games they won without Kyrie:
vs. SAC
vs. CHA
@ CHI

The one game they played against a solid team without Kyrie, they lost by 29 to Indiana at home, and the Pacers didn't have Brogdon or Oladipo.

 

[DDolla]

Just curious: Do all teams have a 6 game road trip like us?

 

[riverman]

So glad Kemba is okay. I was bummed when I heard about it.

Nets lost their last 3 games with Kyrie. They're 3-1 without him now.

Have you been to their home games?

 

[handiman]

Doncic is a hundred times better than Brandon Roy was. Doncic is a Top 3 player in the league. Roy never was.

I agree that Roy never was a top-3 player. I'm not ready to anoint Doncic as top-3 just yet, but I know you like to overstate things, so I'll let it slide.

 

[DDolla]

WCF is going to LA.....Clippers vs Lakers should be fun to watch

 

[KingSpeed]

WCF is going to LA.....Clippers vs Lakers should be fun to watch

The media would love that. No travel. They've never met in playoffs before. Came close to a second round meeting in 2006 but the Lakers choked on a 3-1 lead to the Suns and Kobe chose not to shoot in the second half of Game 7. Damn, do you guys remember that? He scored like 50 in Game 6 loss and everyone was criticizing him and calling him a ballhog so he purposely threw a must win playoff game by only shooting 3 times in the second half. I will always hold that against his legacy.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Doncic with

30 points
14 assists
7 rebounds

Really needs to hit the glass. I mean Meyers Fucking Leonar_ had 5 rebounds.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I agree that Roy never was a top-3 player. I'm not ready to anoint Doncic as top-3 just yet, but I know you like to overstate things, so I'll let it slide.

Erik and I agree on very little when it comes to, well, anything, but he's right. Doncic is light years better than Roy was

 

[wizenheimer]

Erik and I agree on very little when it comes to, well, anything, but he's right. Doncic is light years better than Roy was

I'm trying to find where anybody said that Roy was as good as Doncic but I can't. I brought up Roy and used him as a comp for Doncic's playing style. Never said their talent levels were the same