Official Civil War Thread - Beavers vs. Ducks ESPN 6PM

[Nate Dogg]

Thanks Wheels. I have a feeling that the Beavers will play against Utah in the MAACO bowl in Las Vegas since they can't do the Sun Bowl again (NCAA rules).

 

[Wheels]

Thanks Wheels. I have a feeling that the Beavers will play against Utah in the MAACO bowl in Las Vegas since they can't do the Sun Bowl again (NCAA rules).

that should be a good matchup and opponent for you guys! Now lets have those Utes lose to BOTH Oregon Schools this season!

 

[BlazersBlood]

Congrats Beavers on a hell of a Civil Game and a hell of a season. You guys gave us all we could handle, and James Rodgers WOW.. I knew he was good but WOW WOW WOW.

Couldn't agree more. What a game! Beavers shouldn't be too disappointed. They played a hell of a game at Autzen. You could tell how much respect Chip had for the Beavers offense when he kept going for it on 4th. What a game!

Totally off topic: Wheels I love your posts, but I'm gonna have to put you on ignore since you have the most annoying sig ever. Nothing personal.

 

[DaRizzle]

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[MrJayremmie]

Easily the #1 and 2 teams in the Pac-10. Honestly, I don't know who is 1 or 2 (I'm a Duck fan)... I mean, OSU wins this game in Corvallis.

Wow, i'm so impressed with both these teams. Beavs, keep your heads up. Nothing to be ashamed of. Look where your program has come. 2 years in a row that the last game of the year has Rose Bowl implications!

Go Ducks!

And yes, if you guys were victorious I would have definitely still congratulated you and wished you luck in Pasadena. You know me.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Very good game. Obviously I am not thrilled with the outcome, but both teams should be proud. It sucks for Tim Clark to get injured in such a big game. You could see it in his face. Ultimately the game came down to the red zone offense of the Beavs. One FG turned into a TD and the Beavs are tied and kick a long FG instead of inexplicably going for it on 4th and 15. The Beavs deserve to go the Holiday Bowl, but I see a Vegas Bowl in our future.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Couldn't agree more. What a game! Beavers shouldn't be too disappointed. They played a hell of a game at Autzen. You could tell how much respect Chip had for the Beavers offense when he kept going for it on 4th. What a game!

Totally off topic: Wheels I love your posts, but I'm gonna have to put you on ignore since you have the most annoying sig ever. Nothing personal.

You can turn off all sigs in your User CP. I turn off avatars and sigs just to make the place work safe.

 

[Wheels]

Couldn't agree more. What a game! Beavers shouldn't be too disappointed. They played a hell of a game at Autzen. You could tell how much respect Chip had for the Beavers offense when he kept going for it on 4th. What a game!

Totally off topic: Wheels I love your posts, but I'm gonna have to put you on ignore since you have the most annoying sig ever. Nothing personal.

ah man.. not an Arrested Development fan? hehe no offense taken though no worries

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Wow! What a game! It definitely lived up to all the hype. Props to the Ducks and their fans on the win... the best team won, no doubt about that. Best of luck to ya at the Rose Bowl. I hope you guys show the rest of the country that the Pac 10 is legit by beating the crap out of "the" Ohio State University.
GO BEAVERS!

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Im really really sad.....

 

[Nate Dogg]

It was really funny last night when channel 6 and channel 8 couldn't get the date right for the last time the ducks went to the rose bowl. One said, 1994 and the other said 1995.

The Beavs deserve to go the Holiday Bowl, but I see a Vegas Bowl in our future.

Interesting post by the Contra Costa times in California.

By Jonathan Okanes
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 12/02/2009 07:47:35 PM PST
Updated: 12/02/2009 10:40:09 PM PST

Even though Cal still can finish in a tie for second place in the Pac-10 standings, the Bears will not be going to the Holiday Bowl in San Diego, a source close to the Holiday Bowl said.

Pac-10 bowl arrangements dictate that the conference's second-place team is awarded a berth in the Holiday Bowl. In the event of a tie, the bowl has the right to choose which team it desires.

If the Oregon beats Oregon State tonight and Cal beats Washington on Saturday, the Bears will finish in four-way tie for second place along with Stanford, Oregon State and the winner of Saturday's Arizona-USC game. The source said in that scenario, the Holiday Bowl will take the Arizona-USC winner.

The desire to take USC is obvious. The Trojans typically garner huge television ratings, and their fans can make the short drive from Los Angeles for the game. The source said the bowl is interested in Arizona because Tucson is close enough to San Diego that fans can realistically drive to the game, and the Wildcats haven't appeared in the Holiday Bowl since 1998. Cal played there in 2004 and 2006.

That means the Bears likely will play in the Sun Bowl on New Year's Eve if they indeed finish tied for second. If Cal loses to the Huskies, it will finish in a tie for fifth place and go to either the Emerald Bowl at AT&T Park, the Las Vegas Bowl or the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego.

I hope the Beavers play in the Las Vegas Bowl and not the Poinsettia Bowl. Las Vegas Bowl has a bigger coverage and payout?

 

[MrJayremmie]

It was really funny last night when channel 6 and channel 8 couldn't get the date right for the last time the ducks went to the rose bowl. One said, 1994 and the other said 1995.

Well it was the 1994 (-1995) season. But it was officially (by 1 day I think) in 1995. So both are somewhat right.

 

[STOMP]

I know there will be some Beaver bashing in the next few weeks but Duck fans should keep it respectful when this game could have gone the other way. Ducks are more balanced to go against Ohio State than the Beavers. However, Ducks will have to stop their post-bowl slump lately and Beavers will be looking for their 5th post season bowl victory. Duck fans you should help out your Beavers meet a good opponent in the post season with good balanced attack. Last years Bowl game for the Beavers was boring.

slump? Did you see the Ducks truck Oklahoma St last year?

oh, and I've seen a whole lot more Duck bashing then Beaver bashing on this board prior to this game and little to none since, so take a look in the mirror when you chastise their fanbase on this. Geez for fun I read through the O's recaps of the games and the comments were loaded with bitter Beaver fans still talking BS. There were claims of paid off officials, Blount should be in jail, ESPN bias, "real Oregonians"... basically every form of

Here's to the victors and taking care of business Jan 1st

STOMP

 

[MrJayremmie]

Off topic, I think that Oregon is the 3rd best college football state this year!

1. Texas (Tex and TCU and Houston)
2. Ohio (OSU and Cinci)
3. Oregon (UO and OSU)
4. Florida (Florida and Miami)
5. Pennsylvania (Penn St. and Pitt)
6. California (USC and Cal and Stanford)
7. Utah (BYU and Utah)
8. Oklahoma (Oklahoma State and Oklahoma)

I'm just listing the main 2 or more teams in the state. Oklahoma isn't very good this year either, which is the reason they are 8.

 

[Shapecity]

Very entertaining game last night. I can't see Ohio State having any chance in the Rose Bowl.

 

[maxiep]

I wonder of GO shows up for the game wearing his Blazer colors (red, black and silver)?

 

[Sedatedfork]

Im really really sad.....

I hope you are not sad enough to change your avatar..

 

[Sedatedfork]

Geez for fun I read through the O's recaps of the games and the comments were loaded with bitter Beaver fans still talking BS. There were claims of paid off officials, Blount should be in jail, ESPN bias, "real Oregonians"... basically every form of

Well, that isn't a very sophisticated fan base you are drawing from there. O fan comments?? LoL... I am guessing if the outcome was different you would hear some pretty bitter Duck fans if you looked there too. I know a lot of fans I talk to are upset, etc. I tend to not get too caught up in that kind of stuff. It's time to move on.

My thoughts on the officiating were that it was actually pretty fair. I do think were a few more missed/blown calls that hurt Oregon State over Oregon, but nothing that was atrocious. I thought the roughing the passer call on the ducks was one that should have gone uncalled. There was one potential missed call on a tackle out of bounds that I think ESPN announcers mentioned that the Ducks may have gotten away with. I saw one clear block in the back in the 4th quarter after Masoli completed a pass and an OSU defender was in position to make the tackle but another receiver pushed him in the back. And I saw numerous false start calls against the Beavers that I couldn't see a false start. I am not saying there wasn't one, I just didn't see it. Bottom line, it was not a perfectly called game, but it was fairly balanced. Beavers had their opportunities and just came up short. Fans will always complain about officiating, but this was not the reason that the Ducks won. The Ducks WERE the better team that night and the Beavers played very well, but just came up a little short.

With regards to Blount -- I know several Beaver fans who are pissed off that Blount played. The only thing that was kind of tacky from my perspective is that his first play came after an injured Tim Clark was carted off the field. Althought it obviously was not the intent, it felt a little like CK trying to rub it in a bit. It was only a passing thought in my mind, and I have no problem with Blount playing. It almost ended up being a very bad decision for CK. After two runs (and 9 points down with momentum on the Beaver side) Blount had put Oregon in a third and long situation. If Oregon State stops them that could have cost the Ducks the game. As it turns out, that third down was a real key to the Ducks win.


Anyway that is my $.02. There is still a bowl game to play and then next season. Hopefully next year's CW is just as good as this years (except the Beavers win of course!! )

 

[oldmangrouch]

Now that the Civil War is over, here's hoping that BOTH teams win their bowl game!

 

[Wheels]

Now that the Civil War is over, here's hoping that BOTH teams win their bowl game!

seconded!

 

[STOMP]

Well, that isn't a very sophisticated fan base you are drawing from there. O fan comments?? LoL...

of course you selectively edited my comments as I also referenced the sophisticated trash talking from Beavs fans here that mimics the O's fan comments. I've read the same clever nicknames (like Ucks and Dicksinass) here as there. We've been treated to mocking threads when the Ducks lost and had pictures of injured Ducks posted with LOL!!! as the commentary. Both pre and post civil war, this sort of stuff was almost completely one sided coming from Beavers fans towards the Ducks. I was responding to someone who was complaining about just the opposite potentially happening because of last night's win.

Hopefully next year's CW is just as good as this years (except the Beavers win of course!! )

good luck with that. Oregon doesn't lose many key Seniors this year returning Masoli and almost all of their offensive and defensive lines. The biggest names they'll lose are Blount, Thurman, Tukuafu, Dickson, & TJ Ward. If they stay as healthy next year as this they project to be every bit as good. But to be sure, the ball has bounced Oregon's way more times then not this year... things could have turned out differently last night and throughout the season.

STOMP

 

[The Sebastian Express]

You can reference all the trash talking from Beaver fans (and ignore all the Duck fans that do the same) here but nothing compares to Soda's constant trash talking against the Beavers in any imaginable way he can regardless if it relates to the topic at hand or not. How convenient of you to leave that out.

 

[TehChad]

There's nothing I can type that hasn't already been said, so I'll just leave it at this: amazing game, and I give a lot of credit to the Beavs: you have an outstanding football team.

Also on a silly side note, I truly think the lady that could be heard screaming throughout last year's Civil War (best example is JJ's 83 yard TD run) was just a few seats away from me at Autzen!! If it wasn't her, then it was someone that sounded EXACTLY like her...she even let out a similar sounding "Noooo!!!!" when LaMichael James broke loose for that huge TD run. Then immediately after that TD, her and her friend left and didn't return. Pretty odd because despite the big play, the game was FAR from over.

 

[Sedatedfork]

of course you selectively edited my comments as I also referenced the sophisticated trash talking from Beavs fans here that mimics the O's fan comments. I've read the same clever nicknames (like Ucks and Dicksinass) here as there. We've been treated to mocking threads when the Ducks lost and had pictures of injured Ducks posted with LOL!!! as the commentary. Both pre and post civil war, this sort of stuff was almost completely one sided coming from Beavers fans towards the Ducks. I was responding to someone who was complaining about just the opposite potentially happening because of last night's win.

Well if you are holier than thou, good for you. I personally have not seen anything this year that went over the line. BB's post wasn't mean spirited, and if it pissed you off, well, you need to grow some thicker skin. Soda Pop's relentless bashing last year certainly was enough for 2 years of bashing from the Ducks side... And, hey, this isn't the only medium out there. Just listen to sports talk, etc., and you will find a lot of arrogant duck fans. If Beaver fans feel the need to respond in kind when the Ducks shit the bed, then I can kind of understand that. I think I posted some stuff in the Boise State thread.... but it wasn't about the game and I don't think it was mean spirited. The Blount incident, in case you didn't notice, was a national story and a huge black eye for the university. You can't tell me that anything like that compares to any of the Beaver losses. Had Duck fans had the opportunity to respond to something like that I can tell you that the bashing would have been WAY worse. As for the Stanford loss, honestly I didn't even read any of those threads. What I do remember, is during the Arizona thread a lot of Beaver fans rooting for you guys to set up this CW. I guess it isn't enough for you to just enjoy the win. That's okay. Some people have to feel like they are superior to other fan bases. I enjoy some good natured ribbing, smack talk, etc., but if I ever say anything that you think is over the line, let me know.

good luck with that. Oregon doesn't lose many key Seniors this year returning Masoli and almost all of their offensive and defensive lines. The biggest names they'll lose are Blount, Thurman, Tukuafu, Dickson, & TJ Ward. If they stay as healthy next year as this they project to be every bit as good. But to be sure, the ball has bounced Oregon's way more times then not this year... things could have turned out differently last night and throughout the season.

STOMP

What I have seen over the last 9 to 10 years, and particularly last night, is Oregon State able to hold their own against the Ducks despite the fact that the Ducks recruit superior players, have more luxurious facilities, etc... It doesn't matter who we lose, barring injury, the Beavers always are playing their best at the end of the season. You can get used to that continuing. Good luck in the Rose Bowl, you do not know when you get your next opportunity.

 

[STOMP]

You can reference all the trash talking from Beaver fans (and ignore all the Duck fans that do the same) here but nothing compares to Soda's constant trash talking against the Beavers in any imaginable way he can regardless if it relates to the topic at hand or not. How convenient of you to leave that out.

After killing my body in pickup hoops today I've mostly taken it easy putzing around the house. With your comment I reread every thread regarding the Ducks and Beavers during this last season. Maybe I missed one or two, but I doubt it. What trash talk fans here did this season was done either in the joke thread just prior to the CW or overwhelmingly by Beavers fans. I welcome anyone to try to prove it otherwise.

It was rare to even see a Duck fan participate in a Beaver's game day thread let alone start a Beavers LOL!!! thread when they lost. There has been pretty much zero trashing of the Beavers here all season. Conversely the Go Broncos!/Boilers!/Utes!/etc... jabs made regular appearances in Duck game threads. Several Beavers fans stated that the Boise State game couldn't have been sweeter. Though it wasn't convenient for me to do so, I kept an eye out for that terrible SodaPop's bad words but he posted almost exclusively about the Ducks.

here's a couple of bookend threads from this season filled with the stuff I'm referencing... can you link anything from the past season that compares?

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146477
http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149168

I've read several posts where you're complaining about poor behavior by Duck fans in this forum, and then I've also read you participating in that very behavior... how many times can you bitch about the Ducks uniforms as if we give a crap? Again, I was recapping where the vast majority of trash talk has come from in response to a Beaver fan who expressed concerns that the Duck fans here might start someday start dishing out the same shit. It's fine that some OSU fans here have a burr up their backside about anything UO (Duck fans are much the same about UW) but complaining about smack talk from posters here when what is actually taking place is just the opposite begs a response.

STOMP

 

[yakbladder]

It was rare to even see a Duck fan participate in a Beaver's game day thread let alone start a Beavers LOL!!! thread when they lost. There has been pretty much zero trashing of the Beavers here all season. Conversely the Go Broncos!/Boilers!/Utes!/etc...

I swear Stomp, you are so gung ho in every thread about college football to tell other fans how insulting they are. So some rooted for your opponent! Oh no! Nicknames about your team? Oh no! Did you not also happen to notice the other posts from Beaver fans rooting for your team because they wanted the state of Oregon to win? Or comments by some Beavs leading up to the civil war about how good UO was? Of course not, selective memory.

jabs made regular appearances in Duck game threads. Several Beavers fans stated that the Boise State game couldn't have been sweeter.

Several? Please provide links to these several Beaver fans who said that.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146477

Oh no, you're right! BeerBoy said:

Have fun tonight Duck fans! I hope your boys are victorious.

Whew, that was pretty harsh of him. Next time he better use two exclamation points!!

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149168

This is probably the worst thread because of two comments by oldmangrouch and bigbailes. Even then you see the reaction from other Beavs..

I think if you did an honest assessment rather than one filled with this blind rage or whatever you'd see most Beav fans at the worst have a playful relationship with the Duck fans on this board.

 

[STOMP]

I swear Stomp, you are so gung ho in every thread about college football to tell other fans how insulting they are. So some rooted for your opponent! Oh no! Nicknames about your team? Oh no! Did you not also happen to notice the other posts from Beaver fans rooting for your team because they wanted the state of Oregon to win? Or comments by some Beavs leading up to the civil war about how good UO was? Of course not, selective memory.

reading comprehension sure is lacking here. Again, I don't care about trash talking... really I don't. But the fact is Duck fans haven't been engaging in it. Complaining about what hasn't been going on as if it has is stupid especially so if your side has been doing it. How is that so hard to grasp?

Several? Please provide links to these several Beaver fans who said that.

posts #126, 128 & 133 in that very thread... again, why is this so difficult?

Oh no, you're right! BeerBoy said:

Whew, that was pretty harsh of him. Next time he better use two exclamation points!!

nice strawman. I never said there wasn't some positivity and Beer Boy is consistently a class guy or clearly joking. What I've repeatedly stated is what inter-fan trash talking that has gone on here has come from from Beavs dishing it to Ducks.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149168

This is probably the worst thread because of two comments by oldmangrouch and bigbailes. Even then you see the reaction from other Beavs..

ahhh we're getting somewhere... apparently you don't know what trash talking is. It isn't a fan talking bad about their own rooting interest, it's a fan talking bad about their rival. LOL @ Ducks is thread started by a Beaver fan to do just that. Can you or anyone produce anything comparable thread going the other way from this season?

I think if you did an honest assessment rather than one filled with this blind rage or whatever you'd see most Beav fans at the worst have a playful relationship with the Duck fans on this board.

good grief. Respond to what I actually wrote not the fantasies in your head

STOMP

 

[yakbladder]

reading comprehension sure is lacking here. Again, I don't care about trash talking... really I don't. But the fact is Duck fans haven't been engaging in it. Complaining about what hasn't been going on as if it has is stupid especially so if your side has been doing it. How is that so hard to grasp?

My point is you've brought this up before like when I made a comment that included the nickname the ucks.. if you don't care why do you continually bring it up as an issue? Why do you even respond to Nate if it isn't an issue?

You're telling me you've never seen a gay sheep joke here or the infamous score from last season posted on S2? What a joke...

Luckily most duck fans like Wheels or BP are good natured and can have a good conversation, like most Beaver fans. But don't let that intrude on your own little fantasy world.

 

[RoyToy]

Rudy approves.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

It was rare to even see a Duck fan participate in a Beaver's game day thread let alone start a Beavers LOL!!! thread when they lost. There has been pretty much zero trashing of the Beavers here all season. Conversely the Go Broncos!/Boilers!/Utes!/etc...

I swear Stomp, you are so gung ho in every thread about college football to tell other fans how insulting they are. So some rooted for your opponent! Oh no! Nicknames about your team? Oh no! Did you not also happen to notice the other posts from Beaver fans rooting for your team because they wanted the state of Oregon to win? Or comments by some Beavs leading up to the civil war about how good UO was? Of course not, selective memory.



Several? Please provide links to these several Beaver fans who said that.



Oh no, you're right! BeerBoy said:

Whew, that was pretty harsh of him. Next time he better use two exclamation points!!

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149168

This is probably the worst thread because of two comments by oldmangrouch and bigbailes. Even then you see the reaction from other Beavs..

I think if you did an honest assessment rather than one filled with this blind rage or whatever you'd see most Beav fans at the worst have a playful relationship with the Duck fans on this board.

I am under the impression oldmangrouch is a Ducks fan which makes it more humorous if Stomp is accusing Beaver fans of trash talking based on what oldmangrouch said.