Zombie Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

[HansenYang]

Ehh, sure you could keep Allen and deal DA to GS but we could we getting back CP3 + filler salary, and likely 2nds, not even a 1st, and you aren’t going to get them to unprotect their 1st. DA’s value is at an all time low, the only reason to keep the Cavs players is to keep Allen. But in a draft class loaded with big men, why take Allen? Double dip and draft two bigs. Allen isn’t a superstar. But he would likely maximize Steph’s prime enough for them to give up that much draft capital. Everything still gets derailed for them with a Curry injury.

If Cleveland would trade for Grant, I'd take Okoro and Allen over the GS crap any day.
IMO Okoro has slightly more value than Moody + Joseph, and Allen has significantly more value than Wiggins + picks.

Yes, the '26 pick and the '29 swap may be nice - but they aren't an amazing return either. I think you're missing the forest by focusing on the one tree (draft capital) in front of you.

And who said anything about DA? Given the salary structure of the team, I'd keep both Allen & DA at least until the summer time before trading one of them.

 

[BankTeller]

I think you're missing the forest by focusing on the one tree (draft capital) in front of you.

I think that I get misrepresented as this because you guys are dismissing Wiggins as a negative asset. You just called Wiggins crap, so of course I could see why you’d think I’m missing the forest and focusing on the tree. I don’t see Wiggins as that. I see Wiggins as a better POA defender and rebounder than Grant, and he can play SF. I think that with a young team that completes and having a player-empowerment coach like Chauncey will encourage to play the near All-Defense-level defense he use to play with. Maybe he becomes more confident in his shot again. I strongly feel like Chauncey had something to do with Thybulle becoming a consistent confident shooter, and he wasn’t when we got here. Wiggins actually WAS a good shooter before this season, for more than a few seasons straight.

Why he is having a bad shooting season, I don’t know. I’ve read dubs fans talking about him healing from a rib or something. But we aren’t ever talking about the possibility of trading for him if he was the player he’s been since landing in GS. To each their own.

I know that if Cronin traded for Wiggins and he suddenly becomes the Wiggins in his best Warriors years, more than half this forum will be clamoring to keep him for veteran experience, when the prudent move would be to capitalize on his value lol.

 

[BankTeller]

IMO Okoro has slightly more value than Moody + Joseph

I’m not going to argue with you on this one because I don’t have any particular opinion on one or the other. So I’ll take your word for it, he may have gotten a lot better. Okoro kind of fell off my radar very quickly because he was way smaller than I thought he’d be for a SF. My comp for him out of Auburn was a slightly smaller OG, and he turned out to be significantly smaller than OG. To be fair, he could’ve gotten

Moody is the only one of the two I’ve seen recent tape of. I don’t think Moody will be a star or anything. But I think we can bring Moody back to a cheap rookie extension and he could still be a great 3-D player eventually into that extension. He’s only 6’6 in shoes, but he plays so hard and changes games with his hustle. He’d be PERFECT with Scoot, Thybulle, and Walker. Okoro is smaller than Moody, and is more injury prone.

 

[BankTeller]

And who said anything about DA? Given the salary structure of the team, I'd keep both Allen & DA at least until the summer time before trading one of them.

Ehh, I don’t like the idea of upsetting DA. At this point, there would literally be no point of doing so. Allen is not a generational talent for us to think about how this impacts the locker room. This draft also has so many big men.

So many people wanted DA with Dame, and I was very sour on him. I finally gave in when Dame was traded, and it seems like people are looking to get rid of him already. The idea of having both hurts my head. If this were in the realm of possibilities for what could’ve happened in a DA to Portland deal, we should’ve just never done it. But we did, and I’m just not willing to let one guy potentially ruin it with his attitude. DA isn’t getting squat in a trade unfortunately, not worth attaching anything to get rid of him.

 

[BankTeller]

@CJ_is_Gone I know that was a lot of words, sorry lol.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jarrett Allen is worth more than Jerami by himself.

...and there's no way they'll trade him now:

 

[Mr. Robot]

he has to get traded, his shots need to go to the young fellas (scoot & shae first and foremost, but also ant & ayton)

 

[blazerkor]

he has to get traded, his shots need to go to the young fellas (scoot & shae first and foremost, but also ant & ayton)

He still can't be traded until a month from now but I'm pretty sure (let's say 70%) that both Jerami and Malcolm will be on contenders after the trade deadline.

 

[Mr. Robot]

He still can't be traded until a month from now but I'm pretty sure (let's say 70%) that both Jerami and Malcolm will be on contenders after the trade deadline.

they should be, although i wouldnt mind keeping brogdon if hes okay with the lesser role and being a mentor to the young guys

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Would the Pacers consider giving us Jarace Walker for Jerami Grant? I know we would need salary match but that would be my dream. I think Walker is going to be a great role player.

 

[BankTeller]

Would the Pacers consider giving us Jarace Walker for Jerami Grant? I know we would need salary match but that would be my dream. I think Walker is going to be a great role player.

I don’t think they do unless Siakam or OG goes back to Indy.

 

[HansenYang]

Would the Pacers consider giving us Jarace Walker for Jerami Grant? I know we would need salary match but that would be my dream. I think Walker is going to be a great role player.

Highly doubtful

 

[Natebishop3]

Highly doubtful

Yeah, the problem is that they need another superstar to pair with Hali and Grant isn't it. He's maybe a third option at best. Would he help them get to the playoffs? Sure. I'm sure they'd even make some noise. But if they truly want to go far, they need another star.

 

[Natebishop3]

If we're truly tanking, we could do Grant to Indy for Hield/Walker/pick

Brogdon/Wainright to Miami for Lowry/Jovic/pick

So your haul for those two guys is

Lowry
Hield
Jovic
Walker
2028 Heat first
2024 Pacers pick

That wouldn't be a bad haul. Lowry can take over as the mentor for Scoot. Jovic and Walker are a couple young power forwards that we can develop. We get a couple more picks. Nothing super exciting.

 

[HansenYang]

If we're truly tanking, we could do Grant to Indy for Hield/Walker/pick

Indiana would be great fit for Grant. However you agreed that they would not give up Walker for him...

Then you suggest Walker + Hield + Pick? There's no chance in hell they'd give up that much.

 

[Natebishop3]

Indiana would be great fit for Grant. However you agreed that they would not give up Walker for him...

Then you suggest Walker + Hield + Pick? There's no chance in hell they'd give up that much.

That's not what I said. I never said they wouldn't give up Walker. I said that realistically Grant isn't the piece that they truly need, but I have no idea what KP is thinking. I don't know how motivated he is. If they truly wanted Grant, that's what I'd ask for. The main reason why I haven't wanted to get rid of Grant is that there really aren't any forwards who can do what he does and are available. He doesn't really fit our window but he's the best forward we have had since LMA. It's sad really. The league is starving for forwards and Grant is a borderline All-Star caliber forward who can shoot the three and defend multiple positions. He's not even really paid that badly. So if KP thinks they can make a run and Grant is the only guy who's available and an upgrade, maybe he does that trade.

 

[HansenYang]

That's not what I said. I never said they wouldn't give up Walker. I said that realistically Grant isn't the piece that they truly need, but I have no idea what KP is thinking. I don't know how motivated he is. If they truly wanted Grant, that's what I'd ask for. The main reason why I haven't wanted to get rid of Grant is that there really aren't any forwards who can do what he does and are available. He doesn't really fit our window but he's the best forward we have had since LMA. It's sad really. The league is starving for forwards and Grant is a borderline All-Star caliber forward who can shoot the three and defend multiple positions. He's not even really paid that badly. So if KP thinks they can make a run and Grant is the only guy who's available and an upgrade, maybe he does that trade.

When I remarked and said Indiana trading Walker for Grant was "highly doubtful".... and your immediate response (quoting me) started with "Yeah" -> how else was I supposed to take your response, beside agreeing that Walker was likely off the table?

It doesn't matter...

Grant would be a great fit in Indiana, but we'd be lucky to get back Buddy + Topin + future 1st. Obviously, we'd try to route Buddy elsewhere (maybe BRK for DFS?).

 

[BankTeller]

When I remarked and said Indiana trading Walker for Grant was "highly doubtful".... and your immediate response (quoting me) started with "Yeah" -> how else was I supposed to take your response, beside agreeing that Walker was likely off the table?

It doesn't matter...

Grant would be a great fit in Indiana, but we'd be lucky to get back Buddy + Topin + future 1st. Obviously, we'd try to route Buddy elsewhere (maybe BRK for DFS?).

I don’t think a package of Buddy + Obi + the ‘25 1st would make us lucky. That’s pretty much the low-tier/bare minimum package I’d expect back for Grant. The ‘25 DEN 1st of the same value as the ‘25 MIL 1st. Neither Buddy nor Obi are players I expect to ever suit up for us.

We can trade Toppin to a bad team who might take a flier on him for a win-now vet + any 2nd, then route Toppin and Buddy to a team for a protected 1st in ‘26 or ‘27.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I don’t think they do unless Siakam or OG goes back to Indy.

It’s going to be funny if a team like Indy can land OG or Siakam and the Blazers couldn’t when they had Dame. Especially when it’s reported that Masai Ujiri is so difficult to deal with.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It’s going to be funny if a team like Indy can land OG or Siakam and the Blazers couldn’t when they had Dame. Especially when it’s reported that Masai Ujiri is so difficult to deal with.

I'd bet Siakam and OG stay put by the deadline and possibly even walk this summer. Masai holds out for soo much, and to not even make an offer for Dame but then accept something less months later would look very bad. I think he'd rather roll the dice on them walking and if they do he can blame it on the city of Toronto.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'd bet Siakam and OG stay put by the deadline and possibly even walk this summer. Masai holds out for soo much, and to not even make an offer for Dame but then accept something less months later would look very bad. I think he'd rather roll the dice on them walking and if they do he can blame it on the city of Toronto.

It's almost like Ujiri would rather let a player walk for nothing than to have someone say he lost a trade.

 

[HansenYang]

I don’t think a package of Buddy + Obi + the ‘25 1st would make us lucky. That’s pretty much the low-tier/bare minimum package I’d expect back for Grant. The ‘25 DEN 1st of the same value as the ‘25 MIL 1st. Neither Buddy nor Obi are players I expect to ever suit up for us.

We can trade Toppin to a bad team who might take a flier on him for a win-now vet + any 2nd, then route Toppin and Buddy to a team for a protected 1st in ‘26 or ‘27.

I didn't mean to insinuate that Buddy+Topin+Pick was great value for Grant....
Just that is the absolute most I could see Indiana giving up. Likely their offer would be worse.

 

[HansenYang]

It’s going to be funny if a team like Indy can land OG or Siakam and the Blazers couldn’t when they had Dame. Especially when it’s reported that Masai Ujiri is so difficult to deal with.

Indiana has the threat of cap space. They can potentially sign one of the players as a UFA.... Portland never had that leverage.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

My hope is that the Pelicans give up on Zion and they like Grant.

 

[beast blazer]

If we're truly tanking, we could do Grant to Indy for Hield/Walker/pick

Brogdon/Wainright to Miami for Lowry/Jovic/pick

So your haul for those two guys is

Lowry
Hield
Jovic
Walker
2028 Heat first
2024 Pacers pick

That wouldn't be a bad haul. Lowry can take over as the mentor for Scoot. Jovic and Walker are a couple young power forwards that we can develop. We get a couple more picks. Nothing super exciting.

Tanking? We're pace to be worse than last year and just lost at home to the Wizards. There's no need to tank.

Trading Grant would just make the point differential worse in our losses. We can't keep trading good players for picks. At some point you have to start holding onto guys.

Right now, Grant and Simons are the only two players that could be considered good starters on a playoff team. Shape seems to have the best shot at becoming the 3rd, but there are holes are everywhere else.

 

[blazerfan11]

Grant is shooting the 3-ball very well this season. 42%.
Can catch and shoot from a high release.
Good one-on-one defender against someone like Jayson Tatum.
Good dribbling and finishing when the lane isn't clogged.
He's got some valuable skills.

 

[BankTeller]

https://syndication.bleacherreport....act-discount-was-eyeing-40m-per-year.amp.html

Interesting bit on OG’s upcoming contract. Says he was looking for $40m a year, but was willing to take less if he landed with the Knicks. Not sure how big of a discount he is considering—At $35m/yr, his contract would be 4 yr/$140m. With the injuries always being a concern, I would not consider that deal a better one than Grant’s current deal. That’s assuming OG would consider a 12.5% expectation cut at all.

PG and Kawhi will both be making $45m on their new deals. Probably 3 years instead of 5, but it is still a large chunk of cap space. Siakam will get $40m+, and the only place I see Tobias taking a pay cut for is the 6ers. Hayward is the only other notable forward, and he could even see $25m this summer, who knows.

Grant’s contract is going to immediately look better once we see some of these contracts that will be thrown at these forwards this summer.

 

[BankTeller]

Batum
Covington
Reed
Morris
‘26 PHI 1st
‘28 unprotected LAC 1st
‘29 LAC Swap

for

Grant
Brogdon

This is an idea I saw that I quite liked. We would basically get the Harden package back from Phily for Grant, and get another 1st and Reed for Brogdon. The LAC unprotected 1st and swap are going to be valuable later this decade.

Our 2028 draft would include an unprotected 1st from LAC, unprotected swap with Milwaukie, and the Warriors unprotected 2nd (which could be in the 30s when Curry retires). Our 2029 draft would include unprotected 1sts from Boston, Milwaukie, and an unprotected swap with LAC.

 

[Samuel]

I think Morey is star hunting, as always.

 

[beast blazer]

Batum
Covington
Reed
Morris
‘26 PHI 1st
‘28 unprotected LAC 1st
‘29 LAC Swap

for

Grant
Brogdon

This is an idea I saw that I quite liked. We would basically get the Harden package back from Phily for Grant, and get another 1st and Reed for Brogdon. The LAC unprotected 1st and swap are going to be valuable later this decade.

Our 2028 draft would include an unprotected 1st from LAC, unprotected swap with Milwaukie, and the Warriors unprotected 2nd (which could be in the 30s when Curry retires). Our 2029 draft would include unprotected 1sts from Boston, Milwaukie, and an unprotected swap with LAC.

Holy Fucking Hell, you like this why? That is filler crap, a very late 1st, and who knows what the Clipper pick will be, but that's 4 years down the road and the Clippers are now a "destination" like the Lakers and will not likely suck.

We could get better than that for Grant alone.