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An entire year of Trump is going to wear voters out. His routine is already getting old.
 
magnifier661 said:
Clinton vs Sanders will be a major shit storm.
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Pardon me for going Bill Nye the Science Guy here, but consider the following:

You yourself have said you'd vote for Bernie if Donald isn't running, so it's kind of strange how you say that.

You seem to think Donald Trump is a great candidate, so it's kind of strange how you say that.


You're pretty much like the Kingspeed of politics, where you steadfastly stand by your beliefs, and almost double down on them when reality and facts are presented to you. I guess I should applaud you?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Trump would go Carly, and he would demolish Clinton.
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I think Clinton will drop out or lose in the primaries to Biden/Anonymous Democrat (Maybe O'Malley, Cuomo, or... Gore?) but she will turn the democratic primaries into a bloodbath because she will not go quietly into the night.
 
julius said:
Pardon me for going Bill Nye the Science Guy here, but consider the following:

You yourself have said you'd vote for Bernie if Donald isn't running, so it's kind of strange how you say that.

You seem to think Donald Trump is a great candidate, so it's kind of strange how you say that.


You're pretty much like the Kingspeed of politics, where you steadfastly stand by your beliefs, and almost double down on them when reality and facts are presented to you. I guess I should applaud you?
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I'm not saying it in that regard, but I'm talking "shitstorm" as in "a lot of mudslinging"
 
oldfisherman said:
An entire year of Trump is going to wear voters out. His routine is already getting old.
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There's only two routes I see Trump going:

1) Keep going blowhard and turning off moderates/independents and become the Newt Gingrich of 2016.

2) Become more seasoned over the next year and slowly gaining the support of people who would never have thought of voting for him this present day.

If he is truly serious about WANTING to be the POTUS he will go route 2 and demolish whatever is in front of him for better or worse.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
There's only two routes I see Trump going:

1) Keep going blowhard and turning off moderates/independents and become the Newt Gingrich of 2016.

2) Become more seasoned over the next year and slowly gaining the support of people who would never have thought of voting for him this present day.

If he is truly serious about WANTING to be the POTUS he will go route 2 and demolish whatever is in front of him for better or worse.
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I think we are already seeing him go route 2 in this debate. He had some moments with bush and Paul, but overall he was pretty respectful.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think we are already seeing him go route 2 in this debate. He had some moments with bush and Paul, but overall he was pretty respectful.
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I feel so bad for Paul because he is really the type of leader we need right now and he is just not a media darling, I really hope one day he gets a true shot.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think it would be funny if he was on trump's ticket
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The only one of the current candidates angling for a shot as Trump's VP is Cruz.

barfo
 
magnifier661 said:
Yeah I think that will be the ticket. I think trump needs Cruz to help him on the political side.
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Huh? Not sure how you mean that. Cruz is pure political poison. Both parties hate him, and he's unlikeable for most of the voters as well. Trump would be insane to pick him.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Huh? Not sure how you mean that. Cruz is pure political poison. Both parties hate him, and he's unlikeable for most of the voters as well. Trump would be insane to pick him.

barfo
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You think? He's way tea party, but the dude knows the law
 
I like Cruz, Carly, Carson and Paul. I am not sure I like Trump at all, but I think he is clearly the only one with the mission to up lift America and the balls to carry it out.
I expect he will have the help to get it done.
 
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Hahahaha GOP dirty!!!!

BUSSED IN PRO-FIORINA CROWD AT CNN DEBATE CRIPPLED CARLY

Polls showing Fiorina sunk from 6% to 3%
If you didn’t look at any of the polls, or look at any post Debate poll, you would have watched the CNN debate and believe Fiorina was the front runner, followed by Jeb and Marco Rubio.

Why?

Because the GOP elite bussed in pro-Fiorina supporters and other establishment hacks. The only “grassroots” conservatives were at home, booing Carly.

CNN viewer surveys, Drudge Polls, and other groups say Fiorina did poorly, yet the crowds were at her disposal.

Jeb also scored audience approvals and laughs, while the true front runners, Donald Trump and Ben Carson, got crickets.

Carly Fiorina stikes most Americans as cold, heartless, and callous. In all the polls she is registering as unlikable.

At the debate, she butted in all the time, made feminist statements that would have caused Gloria Steinham to blush, and completely flubbed over her failed business record.

Fiorina is going nowhere in the polls, and will not win the nomination, despite the packed crowd who many allege was bussed in.
 
dviss1 said:
They just replayed the Carly Fiorina response. She got a huge applause from the women. When Trump said she was beautiful the mother fucker got crickets. I think she won on that one.
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That's your criteria for POTUS?

Wow.
 
magnifier661 said:
You think? He's way tea party, but the dude knows the law
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Assuming that's true, is knowing the law an important qualification for a VP candidate?

Usually you want to pick someone who will make the ticket more attractive, either by delivering a key state or key voting block, or at least not doing harm.

I admit I'm biased, I think he's the creepiest of a creepy lot, but I don't see how he'd help any ticket.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Assuming that's true, is knowing the law an important qualification for a VP candidate?

Usually you want to pick someone who will make the ticket more attractive, either by delivering a key state or key voting block, or at least not doing harm.

I admit I'm biased, I think he's the creepiest of a creepy lot, but I don't see how he'd help any ticket.

barfo
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Well, I think we must win some liberal and independent votes, so I'm gonna take your word for it. We need your vote!!!
 
Fiorina's HP Earned Millions From Sales in Iran
By Josh Rogin
On the campaign trail this year, Carly Fiorina has been a staunch advocate of keeping crippling sanctions on Iran, but under her leadership, Hewlett-Packard sold hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of products to Iran through a foreign subsidiary, despite strict U.S. export sanctions.

Fiorina, who served as chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard from 1999 to 2005, often criticizes President Obama’s deal with Iran on the basis that he is agreeing to sanctions relief for Iran too quickly and in exchange for paltry concessions on the part of Tehran. In April, she said Iran sanctions were “unraveling fast,” something she called a “dangerous development.”

Fiorina often cites her time as a corporate executive as a credential for running for president and said in July she would back away from the Iran deal if elected and renegotiate. She has also warned that European countries, as well as Russia and China, are rushing “to open the Iranian economy.” She has also accused Iran of cheating on sanctions.

What Fiorina never mentions on the stump is that while she was in charge, Hewlett-Packard used a European subsidiary and a Middle East distributor to sell hundreds of millions of dollars of printers and other computer equipment to Iran.

HP’s unusual omnipresence inside Iran was first reported in 2008 by the Boston Globe, which discovered that in 1997 the company struck up a partnership with a new Indian company in Dubai called Redington Gulf. The partnership was so successful distributing in Iran that HP printers were No. 1 there, with 41 percent of the market share by 2007.

All U.S. companies were banned from exporting to Iran in 1995, when President Bill Clinton issued two executive orderstightening sanctions on Iran in response to Iran’s support for international terrorism and pursuit of weapons of mass destruction. If HP executives knew about what the Dubai-based distributor was doing, they would have been breaking U.S. law.

After the Globe article came out, the Securities and Exchange Commission, which investigates violations of sanctions, wrote HP a letter inquiring about the Iran business. HP responded by saying that over $120 million worth of its products had been sold to Redington Gulf for distribution in Iran by a foreign subsidiary based in the Netherlands. Because these sales took place through a foreign subsidiary, HP denied violating sanctions law.

When Fiorina was running against Barbara Boxer for California Senate in 2010, her campaign denied that she had any knowledge about HP’s business in Iran. "It is illegal for American companies to do business in Iran," her spokeswoman, Beth Miller, said at the time. "To her knowledge, during her tenure, HP never did business in Iran and fully complied with all U.S. sanctions and laws."

Fiorina's campaign did not respond to several requests for comment this week and last week.

But in 1999, HP’s general manager for the Middle East was quoted as saying, "Iran is a big market for Hewlett-Packard printers.” And Fiorina herself praised rising HP sales in the region in 2003, although she didn’t mention Iran, the San Jose Mercury News reported. Also in 2003, HP named Redington Gulf, the Dubai-based distributor, its “Wholesaler of the Year.” Redington put out a press release that year stating, "The seeds of the Redington-Hewlett-Packard relationship were sowed six years ago for one market — Iran.”

HP severed ties with Redington Gulf after the SEC inquiry.

Later on in her 2010 campaign, Fiorina partially admitted HP’s business in Iran and defended it in an interview with Lady Globes magazine, on the basis that technology could open up Iran to the world. She said that the Iran business was “distributing printer ink,” which she said that was permitted in export law.

"But isn't it wonderful that Dell PCs and Apple iPhones are in Iran, because this is why we know that a woman has been condemned to be stoned to death because she is accused of adultery. … The knowledge that we gain about was going on there is important. It gives us a human face on a brutal regime,” she said. "So I think in addition to crippling sanctions on the regime, we should be encouraging elements of political reform inside Iran, and one of the ways to do that is by selling communication in and out."

Former officials who have worked on sanctions said that HP was using a loophole in the sanctions regime by routing their sales through a foreign subsidiary, which was a murky area in the law.

“At the time it was ambiguous to many people as to whether it was illegal or not,” said Richard Nephew, who managed sanctions on Iran at the White House and the State Department. “They were adhering to the letter but not the spirit, if it was at the direction of the parent company that this was done.”

He was dubious about the possibility that Fiorina did not know about the sales in Iran: "That’s kind of laughable.”

According to the Senate lobbying record, every year from 1999 to 2004, HP’s in-house lobbyists pressed Capitol Hill to pursue “unilateral sanctions reform legislation.” In 2013, adjustments were made to the sanctions regulations to allow sales of personal communications equipment like iPhones and personal computers, Nephew said.

In her July interview with CBS, Fiorina said, "I've never negotiated an Iran nuclear deal, but I've negotiated a lot of high-stakes deals, and there are a couple of rules, and every rule has been broken.”

HP’s business in Iran is one high-stakes deal that she won't rush to take credit for. Whether she was aware of it or not, the affair doesn’t help her argument that her time as a CEO qualifies her to be president.
 
TRUMP OVERWHELMINGLY WON DEBATE SAYS POST DEBATE POLLING
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Donald J Trump won the debate according to every single online post debate poll.

At the Drudge Report Donald Trump won 62% of the vote according to 500,000 voters.

At Time Magazine Trump was even higher, at 67% of the vote with over 100,000 respondents.
Here at Prntly, Trump scored over 75% of the vote.

So much for CNN and FOX claiming Fiorina won the debate. She hardly registers in the post debate polling.
 
Rubio won this easily. His problem is he's too young.

Fiorina 2nd. She comes off as a warmonger though.

Trump 3rd but he's still just buzz phrases.
 
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