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blazerkor said:
Don't get me wrong, as much as I hope we can get OG for 7 and EBEC... I will be a little bummed that we won't get the excitement of not knowing just how good one of these rookies could be. What I wouldn't miss would be the uncertainty around if they'll even be good.
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I think a guy that bring something the team doesn't right now, like Daniels with his passing or Sochan with his size and defense would provide something good right away.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I think a guy that bring something the team doesn't right now, like Daniels with his passing or Sochan with his size and defense would provide something good right away.
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Daniels with his passing/defense would be a great fit. Too bad he isn't 2 years farther along. He would tremendously compliment the rest of the team without needed a bunch of shots. Nurk/GrAnt/Dame are going to take plent of shots as it is.
 
Scalma said:
This dude is a weirdo, guy talks more about Nurkic (and thus the Blazers) than Nurkic’ own mother. Clear something happened in Denver and his bitch ass never let it go.
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For sure. He definitely has something personally against Nurk and thus the Blazers. Ever since the Nurk trade he has always hated on the Blazers. He even blocked me on Twitter for saying that it was a good trade for Nurkic to get a new opportunity with the Blazers.
 
OneSport3 said:
For sure. He definitely has something personally against Nurk and thus the Blazers. Ever since the Nurk trade he has always hated on the Blazers. He even blocked me on Twitter for saying that it was a good trade for Nurkic to get a new opportunity with the Blazers.
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same here, but I wasn’t as friendly lol. If you search his name and Nurkic on Twitter it’s wild. Just years and years of nonsense. It’s 100% personal.
 
Just take Sochan at 7 instead of OG. He'll be just as good and a lot cheaper in a year or 2. Besides, there's not much of a chance they can do enough this off-season to become contenders that quickly. So why not trade back a couple spots and take Sochan.
 
TBpup said:
It may be personal....but is the Tweet actually wrong?
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Yeah, I think it's wrong. The only guy that has shown that he can't handle the role he sometimes needs to take is Nurk. Grant has been the third option before, as has OG, Ant was coming off the bench at the beginning of the year. I've never heard one of Ant, Grant and OG being unprofessional. I haven't even seen their efforts wane when their usage went down. We've seen that from Nurk. We've also seen Grant effort lessen when Detroit was noncompetitive but not because of usage in Denver... he worked his ass off as a role player but I guess I get it if people want to assume that he thinks he's a star now even though he's never said that. I guess he wants his salary to be in the 23-25M range and that would imply he sees himself as more than just an average starter. I think Dame and Chauncey can make it work and the only guy who has ever been toxic is our guy Nurk and hopefully Dame and Chauncey have a handle on that by now.
 
TBpup said:
IF.....Portland ended up with Dame/Ant/OG/Grant.....someone like Duren to run around, rebound, switch out, block shots, and dunk everything in site, might not be bad.
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how could that happen if we don’t have a first round pick though
 
TBpup said:
IF.....Portland ended up with Dame/Ant/OG/Grant.....someone like Duren to run around, rebound, switch out, block shots, and dunk everything in site, might not be bad.
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If we got OG and Grant and kept everyone else... just sent EBEC and 7 to Toronto. Then we signed Ant to a deal that starts at 21M. Signed our two second rounders to rookie min contracts. If at that point we renounced our rights to Nurk... which would suck. We would still have the full MLE to offer to someone like Bobby Portis if he opted out. Could you fucking imagine that? We might want to pick up a vet min big too and that might push us barely into the luxury tax but...

Dame, Ant, OG, Grant, Portis, Hart, Nas, Justise, Vet Min C as our regular 9 man rotation!!!

I mean, it's not likely to happen so whatever but I do dream about what it would be like to have a more mobile C that isn't such a pouty little baby if he doesn't get his way and isn't coddled, oh and can hit the three but that's just an extra perk that Portis would bring. I think Nurk seems like a nice guy and a good friend but I wouldn't want to be his teammate (fucking high maintenance).
 
SlyPokerCat said:
@speeds - would you be happy with OG for Bledsoe and #7?

I don't think I would from Portlands perspective.
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From Toronto's perspective I don't think the #7 is good value for OG but I can't really judge this trade idea because I don't know if the front office have someone they are in love with. For context Ujiri tried desperately to move up and draft Giannis and I don't know even with the 'Chip if he ever got over it. He has much bigger ambitions than one championship. He won't let it happen again and would work Portland if he thinks Sharpe or someone else (likely someone else--Dieng looks like a Raptor) is that guy. I don't think the add-ons Raptors fans are asking for are at all realistic. Toronto got an expiring Thad Young and a second for their first round pick this year, a trade almost every Raptor fan would've blocked given the opportunity. Fans don't know shit, myself especially.

For Portland I think this trade depends on the outlook around Simons. If Portland think Simons is going to be an All-Star next year that means you have all the pieces: a magically clutch superstar, a rapidly improving young All-Star, and high level role players around them. It might not be next year that you seriously contend (you need some veterans to jump on board to give you depth) but with some tweaks the following year you might be the best in the West. If that's Portland's plan they should go for this trade! It's ambitious without totally selling-out the future.

If it doesn't work out there are going to be fans who will be absolutely furious that you gave Toronto's vaunted development system a top prospect in exchange for a complimentary player, which is what Anunoby becomes if this flops. If this succeeds he'll be "the premier 3+D player in the NBA," naturally.
 
As for OG... meh. He's a starter-ish level player on a bad Toronto team that can't stay healthy and getting paid about what he's been worth ($19m).

I don't see why we'd give up a lottery pick for him, personally. Giving up Bledsoe (ie, absorbing his salary) would be acceptable but that presumably is not enough for Toronto.
 
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