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wizenheimer said:
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As long as people know that's not actually in Wikipedia.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Is Mario the one who calls the plays?
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at Oregon, he was the one who would tell the OC which type of plays he wanted on certain drives. That's what happened against Stanford in 2018. Oregon could have taken knees, exhausted Stanford's time-outs, and punted from the 50 yard line with 8-10 seconds left in the game and buried Stanford, inside their own 20, with time enough for one play. Instead Verdell fumbled on the exact same play that Miami fumbled on
 
Tince said:
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Tinkle has a losing record at OSU over 9 seasons (127-158). He's 14-49 over the last 2 seasons and his team is picked to finish last in the PAC this season. I'm not sure how much longer he'll be the HC

and Scott Rueck, the women's coach sure didn't express much enthusiasm about playing Oregon

it makes sense for the basketball teams to play each other. Not so sure about 2 games every year in a home-&-home. Doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for that on either side. Probably alternate home games every year

my hunch is that football games between the two won't happen for years
 
by the way, I'll put this here because I don't want to try and find the Pac-12-->Pac-2 thread:

Washington has filed a motion to join the lawsuit filed by OSU/WSU and have the case dismissed:

https://apnews.com/article/pac12-co...ington-state-7016d8f01d6b01c374077b29c97566ef

I'm not an attorney and I didn't stay at Holiday Inn last night....but, my first thought was that since OSU/WSU deliberately venue shopped for the most favorable judge they could and filed in that state court, Washington was the only school that had the immediate legal standing to challenge because they are in the state. If the judge tries to block Washington from joining the case, or refuses to dismiss, the next step would seem to be to force the judge to recuse since he so clearly can be accused of bias. And since he's the only judge in that state court district, the next step would be either moving the lawsuit to a different state circuit or to federal court

it might be that OSU/WSU have boxed themselves in because they only sued Kliavkoff and the Pac-12 rather than the 10 other schools. What is the Pac-12 if not the 12 schools? It kind of seems they are conceding that the 10 other schools are 10/12ths of the PAC. Well, if those schools are still 10/12ths of the PAC that would imply they can still make decisions for the PAC. And since the by-laws specifically state that a school is still a member of the conference UNTIL they file a formal written notice of exit, and none of the 10 have filed (because they can't till next August), that sure does imply, legally, those schools are still full voting members. Catch-22

I do know there's quite a bit of anger in Eugene and the UofO about what OSU has said and done, especially after that debacle of a hearing in front of the legislature a couple of weeks ago. I've been told that most of the other schools are not happy, at all, about the manner in which OSU/WSU venue shopped and what they are claiming. OSU/WSU may have generated enough anger in the other schools that they decide to fight. And if they do, the legal proceeding can take years and that could mean that OSU/WSU would not have the time before the 2 year deadline to salvage the PAC...leaving them no alternative but to join the MWC
 
wizenheimer said:
by the way, I'll put this here because I don't want to try and find the Pac-12-->Pac-2 thread:

Washington has filed a motion to join the lawsuit filed by OSU/WSU and have the case dismissed:

https://apnews.com/article/pac12-co...ington-state-7016d8f01d6b01c374077b29c97566ef

I'm not an attorney and I didn't stay at Holiday Inn last night....but, my first thought was that since OSU/WSU deliberately venue shopped for the most favorable judge they could and filed in that state court, Washington was the only school that had the immediate legal standing to challenge because they are in the state. If the judge tries to block Washington from joining the case, or refuses to dismiss, the next step would seem to be to force the judge to recuse since he so clearly can be accused of bias. And since he's the only judge in that state court district, the next step would be either moving the lawsuit to a different state circuit or to federal court

it might be that OSU/WSU have boxed themselves in because they only sued Kliavkoff and the Pac-12 rather than the 10 other schools. What is the Pac-12 if not the 12 schools? It kind of seems they are conceding that the 10 other schools are 10/12ths of the PAC. Well, if those schools are still 10/12ths of the PAC that would imply they can still make decisions for the PAC. And since the by-laws specifically state that a school is still a member of the conference UNTIL they file a formal written notice of exit, and none of the 10 have filed (because they can't till next August), that sure does imply, legally, those schools are still full voting members. Catch-22

I do know there's quite a bit of anger in Eugene and the UofO about what OSU has said and done, especially after that debacle of a hearing in front of the legislature a couple of weeks ago. I've been told that most of the other schools are not happy, at all, about the manner in which OSU/WSU venue shopped and what they are claiming. OSU/WSU may have generated enough anger in the other schools that they decide to fight. And if they do, the legal proceeding can take years and that could mean that OSU/WSU would not have the time before the 2 year deadline to salvage the PAC...leaving them no alternative but to join the MWC
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This is why it’s not smart to make enemies. The other schools might have tried to help them.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is why it’s not smart to make enemies. The other schools might have tried to help them.
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I agree

I think initially there was a prevailing sentiment among the departing 10 teams to allow OSU/WSU to keep the PAC name and brand; and even to keep an over-sized chunk of future revenue that was mostly generated by the other 10 teams. I know for a fact that the movers-n-shakers of the UofO felt that way. I'm also nearly certain that sentiment at the UofO has been killed by the actions of OSU and OSU alums in the legislature (I've been told Phil knight is really pissed-off at OSU right now). And I'm pretty sure Washington feels the same way now about WSU

I think the venue shopping and the legal claims by OSU/WSU has generated enough resentment among the 10 departing schools that if they got a favorable ruling lifting the injunction they'd call an immediate meeting of the governing board and dissolve the PAC while distributing all current and future revenue equally. And I don't think they were willing to go that far before the lawsuit
 
wizenheimer said:
Tinkle has a losing record at OSU over 9 seasons (127-158). He's 14-49 over the last 2 seasons and his team is picked to finish last in the PAC this season. I'm not sure how much longer he'll be the HC
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Tinkle is under contract through 2027. Given Oregon State's athletic departments budget issues, I can't see him being paid to not coach for more than a year. I suspect they'll let him ride it out just for money purposes.
 
Though the 2024 Duck recruiting class lacks 5*s, this may end up being their highest rated ever as they've so many 4*s already in the fold. A couple of very highly thought of 6'6 West Coast DLineman are expected to announce in the coming weeks would further that cause.





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Tince said:
Tinkle is under contract through 2027. Given Oregon State's athletic departments budget issues, I can't see him being paid to not coach for more than a year. I suspect they'll let him ride it out just for money purposes.
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I forgot about the contract extension OSU gave him after the Beavs magical end of the season in 2021. But since then, a 14-49 record...yikes! I'd imagine a little buyer's remorse
 
STOMP said:
Though the 2024 Duck recruiting class lacks 5*s, this may end up being their highest rated ever as they've so many 4*s already in the fold. A couple of very highly thought of 6'6 West Coast DLineman are expected to announce in the coming weeks would further that cause.





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Breland and Rushing could easily be two 5* in the 2024 class. Breland announces this weekend.
 
Tince said:
Breland and Rushing could easily be two 5* in the 2024 class. Breland announces this weekend.
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I think Oregon feels cautiously optimistic on Breland; but they know that going against Georgia for defensive talent is an uphill climb

as for Rushing, from what I know he's leaning Oregon but I've heard he's open to other visits. UCLA might try to get in the mix because their new DC looks like the real deal and runs a NFL type defense
 
https://deadspin.com/mario-cristobal-miami-transfer-portal-1850914410

Mario Cristobal is why players should take advantage of the transfer portal


Thanks to the portal, Miami’s players can get away from their egoistical head coach and his idiot play-calling if they choose
By
Carron J. Phillips

Last week, the NCAA approved changes to the transfer portal. Three days later, Miami head football Mario Cristobal showed why the portal is so important — so that players can get away from coaches like him.

It wasn’t a coincidence. It was fate.

In case you missed one of the dumbest plays in the history of sports: The then-No. 17 ranked Hurricanes, who were 4-0, played (2-3) Georgia Tech on Saturday. The Hurricanes were leading 20-17 with 33 seconds left on the clock when Cristobal decided against taking a knee and running the clock out for the guaranteed win. Instead, Miami ran it and fumbled. The Yellow Jackets recovered, eventually scored, and won in the final seconds.


It will transcend sports, the stupidity of Mario Cristobal. People are going to be talking about that. There are very few times in our industry when you see something so bone-headed and moronic as what we saw from Miami and [Cristobal]. And it pains me to say that because I actually keep in touch with Mario all the time — but that doesn’t matter.

“We would be derelict in our job by not calling him out as he was in his job. I had a coach text me this morning saying, ‘Have you ever seen a more egregious of a display of coaching malpractice as that?’ The answer is no.” — Paul Finebaum, ESPN.

“Saturday night was the worst loss in program history,” — Dan Le Batard, Meadowlark Media.

“What the f*ck are we doing?” — Miami player caught mouthing on camera with tears in his eyes.

I made the wrong call,” Cristobal said during his weekly news conference. “I take full ownership in not taking a knee and giving them the opportunity to have a couple extra plays and preventing us from sealing the win.”


Apologies lose their luster when you’re a two-time offender.

Back in 2018, when Cristobal was the head coach at Oregon, the Ducks were up 31-28 late in the fourth against Stanford. Instead of taking a knee for the win, Cristobal’s team ran it. They fumbled. Their opponent recovered it. They eventually lost — in overtime.

It’s beyond fair to think Cristobal should be fired, given that at minimum there should have been discussions taking place in Coral Gables about his job status. For the adults on their staff, it’s going to be hard to work with someone who has a record of giving games away — but at least they’re on salary. But for the players, it’s going to be extremely hard for them to take “coaching” from a man that ruined their undefeated record — they’re not on salary.
 
wizenheimer said:
I agree

I think initially there was a prevailing sentiment among the departing 10 teams to allow OSU/WSU to keep the PAC name and brand; and even to keep an over-sized chunk of future revenue that was mostly generated by the other 10 teams. I know for a fact that the movers-n-shakers of the UofO felt that way. I'm also nearly certain that sentiment at the UofO has been killed by the actions of OSU and OSU alums in the legislature (I've been told Phil knight is really pissed-off at OSU right now). And I'm pretty sure Washington feels the same way now about WSU

I think the venue shopping and the legal claims by OSU/WSU has generated enough resentment among the 10 departing schools that if they got a favorable ruling lifting the injunction they'd call an immediate meeting of the governing board and dissolve the PAC while distributing all current and future revenue equally. And I don't think they were willing to go that far before the lawsuit
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tlongII said:
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so?

USC/UCLA didn't challenge that even though they could have because the bylaws are clear about when a team can file a written notice of withdrawl. And the reason USC/UCLA didn't challenge is because the only business the league was working on, and more importantly, scheduled to vote on, was the next media deal. That did not concern USC/UCLA so they didn't file a legal challenge

Kliavkoff is not the sole arbiter of what the Pac-12 bylaws say, and what their legal meaning is. If Kliavkoff, and the Pac-12 was tying to cut USC/UCLA out of their share on revenue this season, you can be damn sure they would have gone to court
 
wizenheimer said:
so?

USC/UCLA didn't challenge that even though they could have because the bylaws are clear about when a team can file a written notice of withdrawl. And the reason USC/UCLA didn't challenge is because the only business the league was working on, and more importantly, scheduled to vote on, was the next media deal. That did not concern USC/UCLA so they didn't file a legal challenge

Kliavkoff is not the sole arbiter of what the Pac-12 bylaws say, and what their legal meaning is. If Kliavkoff, and the Pac-12 was tying to cut USC/UCLA out of their share on revenue this season, you can be damn sure they would have gone to court
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It matters because it sets a precedent.
 
Where is the best place on the west side to watch the Ducks game tomorrow?

I live out near Hillsboro but anywhere between here and Portland is fine.

Or, is there a Must- Go place in Portland??
 
What is the highest ranking for UW and UO for a game? Tomorrow is #7 UW vs #8 UO. I'm guessing it's higher (or a lower number added together) in the past .
 
blazerfan11 said:
What is the highest ranking for UW and UO for a game? Tomorrow is #7 UW vs #8 UO. I'm guessing it's higher (or a lower number added together) in the past .
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First time both teams have been in the top 10 for a matchup.

Someone said it's the highest ranked P12 matchup, but I can't confirm if that's true. Doesn't seem right, but maybe those Oregon/Stanford matchups were pre Pac12
 
Tince said:
First time both teams have been in the top 10 for a matchup.

Someone said it's the highest ranked P12 matchup, but I can't confirm if that's true. Doesn't seem right, but maybe those Oregon/Stanford matchups were pre Pac12
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Nice!
 
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