Oregon Ducks 2024! (1 Viewer)

[kjironman1]

Hate losing to any Texas team. Fucking sucks.

 

[kjironman1]

I pitched in high school. When you don’t have it, you don’t have it and the strike zone seems smaller and smaller. He should’ve gone to the bullpen after the 2nd walk. Once you’re mentally fucked it’s game over on the mound.

Just awful coaching there.

I was a pitcher also. I know exactly what that feels like.

 

[Tince]

Yep pretty sad. Do they not have a bullpen? Just weird.

I think it's pretty clear how little faith the staff has in the bullpen by how long they waited to pull Moore. Then when they pulled Moore, they quickly gave up 5 more runs, somewhat confirming why Waz was hesitant to pull Moore.

People wanted Grinsell pulled earlier in the game, but you could easily make the case they should've waited longer!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Maybe Dan Lanning can also start recruiting for baseball?

 

[wizenheimer]

I think it's pretty clear how little faith the staff has in the bullpen by how long they waited to pull Moore. Then when they pulled Moore, they quickly gave up 5 more runs, somewhat confirming why Waz was hesitant to pull Moore.

People wanted Grinsell pulled earlier in the game, but you could easily make the case they should've waited longer!

well, after we talked up Ducks' pitching....geeeeezuzz. I've never seen a team, on any level, a team walk 7 batters in a single inning

 

[Natebishop3]

Maybe Dan Lanning can also start recruiting for baseball?

Can Dan Lanning recruit for the Blazers?

 

[Tince]

well, after we talked up Ducks' pitching....geeeeezuzz. I've never seen a team, on any level, a team walk 7 batters in a single inning

The bullpen was awful, with the lack of depth being the main issue. That was a painful watch.

 

[Tince]

Maybe Dan Lanning can also start recruiting for baseball?

If Waz had 10% of Lanning's NIL budget, he'd have a much easier time recruiting!

 

[wizenheimer]

 

[wizenheimer]

 

[STOMP]

Ducks add a 4* Florida Offensive Tackle named Ziyare Addison to their class. Says he's shutting down his recruitment and won't take other OVs. Oregon is expected to lose both their starting Tackles to the draft following this season and 3 starters overall so I'd expect more OLine commits coming



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[STOMP]

btw, this new Duck Tackle verbal Left Tackle is wearing #58 in the highlights. Wondering if he's a fan of Penei?

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[STOMP]

Another day another OLine add for the 2025 class, this time it's 6'7 330 lb Demetri Manning from Washington

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/demetri-manning-307148?view=pv



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[Paine Tablet]

Another day another OLine add for the 2025 class, this time it's 6'7 330 lb Demetri Manning from Washington

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/demetri-manning-307148?view=pv



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It's crazy this guy is a low three star. I played basketball against Mike Delagrange back in HS and got to see him play on the football field a few times in HS. He was similar size to Manning. I remember thinking his signing was a bad sign for Oregon football. He actually ended up playing a decent amount for Oregon, but he looked nothing like this guy in HS. Not all three stars are the same.

 

[MickZagger]

It's crazy this guy is a low three star. I played basketball against Mike Delagrange back in HS and got to see him play on the football field a few times in HS. He was similar size to Manning. I remember thinking his signing was a bad sign for Oregon football. He actually ended up playing a decent amount for Oregon, but he looked nothing like this guy in HS. Not all three stars are the same.

Ducks have had a lot of successful 3 star recruits over the years. One of them won the Heisman.

 

[kjironman1]

Ducks have had a lot of successful 3 star recruits over the years. One of them won the Heisman.

True. However the very same reasons he was a 3 star recruit were the reasons he did not fair well in the NFL. Probably was the system that won him that Heisman. That doesn't take anything away from the season at all. I my opinion It makes it a bit more impressive.

 

[STOMP]

It's crazy this guy is a low three star. I played basketball against Mike Delagrange back in HS and got to see him play on the football field a few times in HS. He was similar size to Manning. I remember thinking his signing was a bad sign for Oregon football. He actually ended up playing a decent amount for Oregon, but he looked nothing like this guy in HS. Not all three stars are the same.

We're a long ways to the end of the 2025 recruiting cycle and there will be several more rerankings of recruits. The recruiting sites largely make their star judgements based on guys attending various camps and the types of school offers that they self report. I don't know if it's the case with Manning, but he may not have even attended a camp due to injuries or logistics. That he obviously has received an offer from a top 10 program (Oregon) will put him more on the site's radar going into his Senior year this fall and a reranking may be coming... the only ranking that even somewhat matters is the final one.

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[MickZagger]

True. However the very same reasons he was a 3 star recruit were the reasons he did not fair well in the NFL. Probably was the system that won him that Heisman. That doesn't take anything away from the season at all. I my opinion It makes it a bit more impressive.

Herbert and Clemens were both 3 star as well. I think I remember Patrick Chung and a few other defensive guys being 3 star.

Then there’s all too many 5 star flops like Cameron Colvin.

 

[Hoopguru]

Herbert and Clemens were both 3 star as well. I think I remember Patrick Chung and a few other defensive guys being 3 star.

Then there’s all too many 5 star flops like Cameron Colvin.

Yesterdays 3 stars are todays 4-5 stars.....

 

[STOMP]

Herbert and Clemens were both 3 star as well. I think I remember Patrick Chung and a few other defensive guys being 3 star.

2* which means that he wasn't even evaluated. On rivals guys who are evaluated are given at least a 3* rating and then further differenciated on a sliding scale of 5.4 - 5.7

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/patrick-chung-28708?view=pv

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[wizenheimer]

went back to Chip Kelly's 1st class to see some of Oregon's 3-star recruits:

Bryan Bennett
Erick Dargan
Hronis Grassu
Troy Hill
Derrick Malone
Terrance Mitchell
Tony Washington
Keanon Lowe
Jake Fisher
Matt Pierson
Charles Nelson
Jalen Jelks
Tyrell Crosby
Henry Mondeaux
Justin Hollins
Shane Lemieux
Calvin Thockmorton
DeForest Buckner
Alex Balducci
Dwayne Stanford
Cameron Hunt
Kani Benoit
Elijah George
Johnny Mundt
Marcus Mariotta
Joe Walker
Jake Pisarcik (2-star)
Ugo Amadi
Jacob Breeland
Gary Baker
Drayton Carlberg
Jake Hanson
Gus Cumberlander
Brady Breeze
Justin Herbert
Troy Dye
Jaylon Redd
CJ Verdell
Popo Aumavae
Alex Forsythe
Nick Pickett
Austin Faoliu
Jordon Scott
Johnny Johnson
Verone McKinley
Travis Dye
Keyon Ware-Hudson
Drew Mathis
Brandon Dorlus
Trikweze Bridges
Juwan Johnson
Jonathon Denis
Braydon Swinson
Bennett Williams
TJ Bass

(I stopped at 2020)

that list kind of fits with what I've been told: that being that with all the national evaluation services, pegging proper value for skill position players has gotten better, but there are still misses

most of the big misses occur on the lines, especially the OLine. It's much harder to evaluate desire and capacity for improvement with 17 year old big kids. If you look at that list, Oregon has had lots of 3-star OLine recruits turn into All-Pac-12 players and NFL draft picks

it used to be that Oregon could not compete for 5-star OLinemen. They'd never landed one and had plenty of misses going after 4-stars that committed elsewhere. So, under Steve Greatwood and especially Mike Bellotti (and a little with Chip Kelly) Oregon's process was to grow their own. They would recruit those rangy 3-star and 2-star kids that, as they matured, could add mass & muscle without compromising mobility.

Oregon had incredible success with OLines that averaged 280-290 pound across the line instead of 320-330 pounds. IIRC, Oregon led the Pac-12 in rushing for 11 straight seasons and their OLines were always one of the lightest around. It's a big reason that Bellotti wanted to go to the spread. He knew that OLinemen who could create small gaps at the line of scrimmage and still get to the 2nd level to block LB's and safeties would be deadly if Oregon could recruit RB's that hit gaps quickly. Enter stage left Jerimiah Johnson-Legarrett Blount-LMJ-Barner-DAT-Royce-Tyner

I don't pay much attention to the star ratings of OLine recruits. Yeah, it great when the Duck can land a 5-star like Penei Sewell or Josh Connerly and thay can contribute as true freshman. But that's rare

 

[wizenheimer]

 

[Natebishop3]

The problem with MM at the end was that he hurt his throwing arm and he was seeing ghosts because of their awful line.

 

[Hoopguru]

Five-star running back Jordon Davison commits to OregonIN 1H • Adam Gorney

 

[MickZagger]

Supposedly a huge commitment coming in 30 minutes

 

[Natebishop3]

Supposedly a huge commitment coming in 30 minutes

That was almost 3 hours ago. Did anything happen?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

That was almost 3 hours ago. Did anything happen?

What @Hoopguru posted. Just how big of a commitment do you need?

 

[Natebishop3]

What @Hoopguru posted. Just how big of a commitment do you need?

Zags promised me more big commits!!!!!! I want my commits.

 

[MickZagger]

Zags promised me more big commits!!!!!! I want my commits.

Josiah Sharma chose the Ducks over Washington, Alabama and Texas as well

 

[MickZagger]

https://duckswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/28/oregon-lands-commitment-from-4-star-dl-josiah-sharma/