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Tince said:
It would take a lot of mental gymnastics to conclude anything else.
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yes, he's a great coach, although the number of one-possession games he's won (with an incredible amount of crazy luck) over the last 3 seasons may be worth an asterisk

there is a pretty interesting component to this though. He was at Washington for the 2022 & 2023 seasons

* in 2022, his recruiting class ranked 95th. Now, that was a coaching transition class so you'd expect a lower mark. But UW's 2021 class, with Jimmy Lake, ranked 30th. A collapse from 30 to 95 is crazy. He had 9 de-commits that year. That's really not out of the ordinary for a coaching change. But Willie Taggart, Mario Cristobal, and Dan Lanning all did way better in their transition classes

* in 2023, his class ranked 26th (I'm using 247's composite rankings by the way). Dan Lanning's class ranked 9th

justifiably so, his reputation as a coach was much better than his reputation as a recruiter.

HOWEVER!....his 2024 his Alabama class ranked 2nd (Oregon ranked 3rd). Now, it's important to note that Alabama hire Deboer a month AFTER the first NLI day on Dec 15. So, almost all of the credit for the 2024 class should go to Saban

* But, currently for the 2025 class, Alabama ranks 2nd behind Ohio State (Oregon 8th)

'meaning'....there is likely a lot of truth to the old saying about Alabama recruits itself. And that can be applied to most blue blood like Ohio St., Michigan, Georgia, Texas, Florida schools. Deboer showed no elite recruiting ability; not really even high quality recruiting ability in....until he landed in Tuscaloosa
 
wizenheimer said:
yes, he's a great coach, although the number of one-possession games he's won (with an incredible amount of crazy luck) over the last 3 seasons may be worth an asterisk

there is a pretty interesting component to this though. He was at Washington for the 2022 & 2023 seasons

* in 2022, his recruiting class ranked 95th. Now, that was a coaching transition class so you'd expect a lower mark. But UW's 2021 class, with Jimmy Lake, ranked 30th. A collapse from 30 to 95 is crazy. He had 9 de-commits that year. That's really not out of the ordinary for a coaching change. But Willie Taggart, Mario Cristobal, and Dan Lanning all did way better in their transition classes

* in 2023, his class ranked 26th (I'm using 247's composite rankings by the way). Dan Lanning's class ranked 9th

justifiably so, his reputation as a coach was much better than his reputation as a recruiter.

HOWEVER!....his 2024 his Alabama class ranked 2nd (Oregon ranked 3rd). Now, it's important to note that Alabama hire Deboer a month AFTER the first NLI day on Dec 15. So, almost all of the credit for the 2024 class should go to Saban

* But, currently for the 2025 class, Alabama ranks 2nd behind Ohio State (Oregon 8th)

'meaning'....there is likely a lot of truth to the old saying about Alabama recruits itself. And that can be applied to most blue blood like Ohio St., Michigan, Georgia, Texas, Florida schools. Deboer showed no elite recruiting ability; not really even high quality recruiting ability in....until he landed in Tuscaloosa
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There's an argument to be made for making your own luck via preparation...
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
He's a Cal commit but Ducks have invited him to come visit.
"Keawe Sagapolutele has clearly established himself as one of the nation’s top quarterbacks this off-season. He has really had a great spring and summer including a recent top 11 finish at the prestigious Elite 11 Finals. You can make an argument he has the strongest arm in the country but doesn’t just throw all fastballs and has really improved in his ability to change speeds and throw with touch. His deep ball accuracy is among the best in the country as well and he can really layer the football in to tight windows. His release is smooth and tight and he has improved in his ability to make quick decisions and get the ball out on time. The next big jump we want to see this fall is improving his mobility, avoiding sacks and being more of a threat running the ball when the pocket breaks down. All the physical tools are there and Keawe Sagapolutele has a very high ceiling and NFL potential if he continues to develop at his current rate."
https://www.si.com/high-school/recr...terback-commit-with-flip-in-mind-01j8r4hdfgcc
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relaying a quote from Jaron via rivals...

“I grew up watching Mariota. Oregon has been my dream school since I could remember. Just how they always produce NFL talent, it’s consistent, and I know they have great quarterbacks that come out of there. They have a great play style on offense especially with what they’re doing with Dillon right now. That’s something that really caught my eye.”
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STOMP
 
Ducks should just play the game and then focus on next week. J. Smith is similar to Mike Riley, you can pencil them in for one big upset win a season. Don't overlook MSU!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Ducks should just play the game and then focus on next week. J. Smith is similar to Mike Riley, you can pencil them in for one big upset win a season. Don't overlook MSU!
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What she said ^
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Ducks should just play the game and then focus on next week. J. Smith is similar to Mike Riley, you can pencil them in for one big upset win a season. Don't overlook MSU!
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Idk. Maybe they should just look ahead to the Ohio State game and play down to their opponent like they did the first two games?
 
kjironman1 said:
Idk. Maybe they should just look ahead to the Ohio State game and play down to their opponent like they did the first two games?
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I bet YOU wish your team could “play down” to their opponents level and STILL be undefeated, Huh? #GoDucks
 
THE HCP said:
I bet YOU wish your team could “play down” to their opponents level and STILL be undefeated, Huh? #GoDucks
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Watch out brother. The Ducks are awesome but they always find a way to lay an rotten egg at some point of the season.

Also you do realize OSU is also Ohio State University right?
 
kjironman1 said:
Watch out brother. The Ducks are awesome but they always find a way to lay an rotten egg at some point of the season.

Also you do realize OSU is also Ohio State University right?
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Watch out brother. I am the one on this forum that was cool with my Blazers just making it to the playoffs every year.
 
THE HCP said:
Watch out brother. I am the one on this forum that was cool with my Blazers just making it to the playoffs every year.
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So you’re good with them losing to the second OSU but not the first OSU.
 
kjironman1 said:
I see.
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It led to one of the most ridiculous trademarks of all time

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/23/us/ohio-state-university-trademarks-the/index.html

Ohio State University has officially registered a trademark for the word “THE” after a nearly three-year battle to clinch legal branding access to a word that’s deeply meaningful to the school’s overall identity.

The university in Columbus will use the word “THE” for branded products associated with the school and sold through its athletics and collegiate channels, OSU spokesperson Ben Johnson said Wednesday in a statement to CNN.

“THE has been a rallying cry in the Ohio State community for many years, and Buckeye fans who purchase official Ohio State gear support student scholarships, libraries and other university initiatives,” Johnson said.

The university filed an application with the US Patent and Trademark Office in 2019 after fashion designer Marc Jacobs also filed to trademark the same word, Johnson said.

Last year, the university and the designer reached an agreement that allows both of them to register “THE” branded products for continuous use and license, Johnson explained.
 
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