OREGON MINIMUM WAGE SET AT $14.75 AFTER GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL AMIDST OPPOSITION’S DEFIANCE

[MarAzul]

statements a racist would say

We differ here greatly because you see it out of context and do not want boarders. Well that is not the law nor the majority opinion of your countryman. Don't make a fool of yourself by saying
things that are not true.

 

[blue32]

He paints a group of millions of people as rapists and murderers, based upon their ethnicity. I think that's at least bigotry.

But as a lover of terms and definitions you will understand that racism and bigotry are two different things.

So I say again to the OP, please provide proof that Trump is a racist.

 

[Denny Crane]

Agreed and wrong.

On the flip side, I've met people that think if you support Trump, (even though you do disagree with him on issues dealing with race and/or human rights) and you're white, that you're immediately a racist bigot.

I would say that most people who support Trump do not support his bigoted/racist/racial theories at all.

What Trump talks about in his stump speeches, almost exclusively, are the bad free trade deals negotiated by the idiots who've held office all along. That's pretty much what Sanders is selling, too.

 

[dviss1]

Sony pictures isn't real estate. I'm talking about land in other countries. You don't see any problem in other countries buying up land in the usa, but not allowing us the same courtesy in their country ?

Capitalism is a love story.

So are you asking our federal government institute some sort of regulation that prevents foreign entities from buying land? Sounds like big gov't overruling the "free market"to me...

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Nope. We sell property to foreigners because it brings foreign capital into our economy.

Other countries can do what they want. Whatever we're doing makes us the #1 economy in the world. Whatever the other countries do, they're not the biggest economy.

If you like, you can buy a chateau in France.

http://www.proprietesdefrance.co.uk/announces/chateau-real estate-properties for sale-france/

Fair enough.

 

[Denny Crane]

But as a lover of terms and definitions you will understand that racism and bigotry are two different things.

So I say again to the OP, please provide proof that Trump is a racist.

Maybe you might want to specify who this OP is. The thread is about the minimum wage.

 

[Denny Crane]

I've been saying that myself and have been shot down. Sanders and Trump want some similar things. They just talk about it in a different way.

I agree with trumps Healthcare and tax plans more than bernies though.

I've written that I can see Trump's appeal. I do not underestimate his ability to appeal to whoever he chooses to at any moment.

If not for his bigotry, I would find him at least an interesting candidate.

 

[MarAzul]

I think that's at least bigotry

I think you display a lack of understanding not because you are unable, but because you don't want too.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Capitalism is a love story.

So are you asking our federal government institute some sort of regulation that prevents foreign entities from buying land? Sounds like big gov't overruling the "free market"to me...

I'm not a rigid free market guy. I just find it odd and troubling that we aren't allowed the same privileges of land buying in other countries.

 

[blue32]

Maybe you might want to specify who this OP is. The thread is about the minimum wage.

Ack, you are right. I am mixing up threads because of the conversation side bars. My apologies.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

So... again tell me how Trump is a racist, using Denny's definitions above?

i dont believe ive ever called him a racist. but one could certainly make the argument. And many of his supporters are racist.

 

[MarAzul]

And many of his supporters are racist.

Oh! Denny is pleased with you.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Oh! Denny is pleased with you.

facts are pleasing to those who enjoy the truth.

 

[blue32]

i dont believe ive ever called him a racist. but one could certainly make the argument. And many of his supporters are racist.

I wasn't implying you did. I was mixed up and thinking I was in the other thread where the title was Donald Trump is a racist or some shit.

But yes, anyone can make arguments about anything; but I haven't seen repeated evidence of any racism on Trumps part. And in regards to the comment about supporters being racist. Sure, I guess that can be true, but that can be true for almost every candidates supporters. Because a good majority of the USA, and the world is racist or bigoted in one way or another; that is just the facts of life, however shitty that may be.

 

[MarAzul]

facts are pleasing to those who enjoy the truth.

Truth might be Conformity to reality. Reality is not fixed, but you conformed as expected.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Whoa... I don't think if any of you are racists but your posts are full of crazy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Okay, now to do a little housekeeping...

I'm not surprised you see racism in everything people say. We've already established that you're a racist, and I didn't even know you were black.

I actually assumed that you were some nerdy college white kid full of Media-induced White Guilt. My bad.

So this shit is ok @SlyPokerDog ?

Yeah, Sly. Is this okay...



Or this....



Or this....



Like I said: you wanna grow up and act like an adult, and drop the childish vendetta, then you'll be treated like one. Until then, yes, you'll be treated like a child. And there's fuck all you can do about it except block me.

In fact, I insist you do. Rid my internet life of your childish, racist stupidity.

@Jade Falcon, calling someone a racist is a personal insult.

The posts of @dviss1 you quoted weren't personal insults. I can see that you might have been offended by them but we don't have a please don't offend anyone rule around here.

To make it really easy and simple for you, we welcome you to attack/debate/argue with what someone says or posts, that's a big part of what makes forums fun. But there is no need to attack someone personally.
Attack the post not the poster.

When you attack what someone posts it invites them to defend their position, when you attack someone personally it just turns into a giant shit show, you insult him, he insults you, on and on and on.

If you think what someone has posted is racist, then say that but leave the personal insults out of it.


@Jade Falcon and @dviss1 just to show you this isn't black and white (see what I did there, god I crack myself up) I'm not sure if calling someone childish is a personal insult. I'll be the first to admit sometimes I act childish. If someone said that to me I'm not sure if I would feel insulted.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Truth might be Conformity to reality.

the soul is a terrible reality. it can be bought and sold and bartered away.

oscar wilde

 

[MarAzul]

the soul is a terrible reality. it can be bought and sold and bartered away.

oscar wilde

Yes sir!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

This is the silliest notion I've ever heard. I can guarantee you no one is doing this. Selling food stamps for money to buy crack yeah maybe. To buy weed? Come on now...

Lmao

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Lmao

they obviously save some food stamps to buy munchies after.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Whoa... I don't think if any of you are racists but your posts are full of crazy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Okay, now to do a little housekeeping...







@Jade Falcon, calling someone a racist is a personal insult.

The posts of @dviss1 you quoted weren't personal insults. I can see that you might have been offended by them but we don't have a please don't offend anyone rule around here.

To make it really easy and simple for you, we welcome you to attack/debate/argue with what someone says or posts, that's a big part of what makes forums fun. But there is no need to attack someone personally.
Attack the post not the poster.

When you attack what someone posts it invites them to defend their position, when you attack someone personally it just turns into a giant shit show, you insult him, he insults you, on and on and on.

If you think what someone has posted is racist, then say that but leave the personal insults out of it.


@Jade Falcon and @dviss1 just to show you this isn't black and white (see what I did there, god I crack myself up) I'm not sure if calling someone childish is a personal insult. I'll be the first to admit sometimes I act childish. If someone said that to me I'm not sure if I would feel insulted.

What ever you say, slychildishdog!

 

[Denny Crane]

Trump's plan to deport over 10M people living in the USA (lived here for many years) is a crime against humanity. It is also a form of ethnic cleansing.

The international law in question:
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Trump's plan to deport over 10M people living in the USA (lived here for many years) is a crime against humanity. It is also a form of ethnic cleansing.

The international law in question:
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

I dont know why the hate for Mexicans, they make the best food ever, and there are a lot of fine looking latinas. Can we cleanse the Canadians instead? Who makes a square wheel? Fuck off Canada!

 

[blue32]

Trump's plan to deport over 10M people living in the USA (lived here for many years) is a crime against humanity. It is also a form of ethnic cleansing.

The international law in question:
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

Is that how many illegals are in the country? Or what is this number from?

 

[riverman]

Is that how many illegals are in the country? Or what is this number from?

Doesn't include Canadians....and the Mexican figure I read said 11 million Hispanic illegals instead of 10 although I would think it's impossible to tell how many illegal folks are living outside the polls...it's not like they're going to sign a form claiming to be here.

 

[MarAzul]

Trump's plan to deport over 10M people living in the USA (lived here for many years) is a crime against humanity. It is also a form of ethnic cleansing.

The international law in question:
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

Now your true colors come out. Adhering to this bull shit would be the end of the United States. Without boarders we have no country.

Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

 

[blue32]

Doesn't include Canadians....and the Mexican figure I read said 11 million Hispanic illegals instead of 10 although I would think it's impossible to tell how many illegal folks are living outside the polls...it's not like they're going to sign a form claiming to be here.

Yeah, I thought so. I have no problem deporting people that have broken the law. As a Nation and a taxpayer we should not have to support people that come here illegally; services, infrastructure, etc.

 

[Denny Crane]

Now your true colors come out. Adhering to this bull shit would be the end of the United States. Without boarders we have no country.

Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

We have borders and immigrants. The world has not come to an end. The republic is in OK shape except for the mountain of debt spent on worthless crap.

See articles 9-12 and weep.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yes, lets deport all the illegals.

And lets deport all of the people who have hired them and profited off of them.

There are at least 3 finance companies in Oregon that will lend an illegal money to buy a car. I know illegals who actually have home mortgages in their names. You honestly don't think there has never been a single illegal Mexican working at a Trump golf course?

Not all of the illegals are drug dealers and rapists, the vast majority come here to get work. If there wasn't work they wouldn't come here.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yes, lets deport all the illegals.

And lets deport all of the people who have hired them and profited off of them.

There are at least 3 finance companies in Oregon that will lend an illegal money to buy a car. I know illegals who actually have home mortgages in their names. You honestly don't think there has never been a single illegal Mexican working at a Trump golf course?

Not all of the illegals are drug dealers and rapists, the vast majority come here to get work. If there wasn't work they wouldn't come here.

If you truly want to put a YUGE dent in illegal immigration then we need to increase and enforce the penalties for hiring them.