OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games (4 Viewers)

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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  • yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • Total voters
    32
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Mediocre Man said:
Yep. Anal rape, illegal drugs, battery of a woman=ok, just dare dare say you dont like black people.
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The interesting thing is that the NBA is a private sector that has its own bylaws. I'm sure all owners had to sign these bylaws in order to become owner. With that said, the NBA is not the government. They can violate civil rights, just like Sly could ban a person here talking shit about gay people and you couldn't sue for the "freedom of speech" card.

It is a double standard, but it is still a private company and business. So they can tell you "Kick and scream all you want, until you own a team, kick rocks"
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

mook said:
If Sterling is dead, who cares that he was a racist fuck when he was alive. At that point maybe the NBA drops the whole thing. The media, fans and players won't care at that point.
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I'm talking about a civil case. Like the "Sterlings" suing for 2 billion dollars for damages...
 
Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Wizard Mentor said:
Apparently, it's not easy for 9 of 11 of us :)

My guess is that Sterling, like the rest of us, doesn't like being told what to do. If that's the case, then selling the team for its current market value is losing, even if a billion dollars seems like a lot to all of us reading this board.
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I'm with you man. I don't think Sterling will go down quietly. I can see numerous civil lawsuits against the NBA, players union, whatever he can bring down with them. I think he will remain an owner until there is a "court order" forcing him to sell.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

He is not being kicked out only because of the racist remarks, he is being admonished by the rest of the owners for harming their businesses. There are shared revenue streams in the NBA, and a ton of advertisers were already pulling out, and many clipper fans were saying they would boycott the team. So, you don't need to look at it as big brother caring about what you say in your own house, you can see it as the rest of the owners care about the image of their league and the health of all revenue streams.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

magnifier661 said:
I'm talking about a civil case. Like the "Sterlings" suing for 2 billion dollars for damages...
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the problem that the league will have is in trying to use the tape in court. California law will not allow it if the tape was made without the consent of Sterling, and if there was no consent, whoever made the tape can be liable.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

DaLincolnJones said:
the problem that the league will have is in trying to use the tape in court. California law will not allow it if the tape was made without the consent of Sterling, and if there was no consent, whoever made the tape can be liable.
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Exactly!!! Sterling can have his attorneys throw that evidence out
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

magnifier661 said:
Exactly!!! Sterling can have his attorneys throw that evidence out
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yeah..and I would bet that they would demand that charges would be made against whoever made the tape..gonna be a shit storm.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Will they need to admit the actual recordings as evidence though? This is all public record now. The recordings may have originally been illegal, but it's not like the NBA made them. These recordings are in the public domain for everybody to hear (which is the whole problem). Why would a jury not be allowed to read, say, a transcript of them printed in the New York Times? Seems like it'd be admissible to me.

Seems to me that the real bone of contention is whether the league has the ability under their constitution to give Sterling the boot.

*shrug* I'm not a lawyer, though.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

magnifier661 said:
Exactly!!! Sterling can have his attorneys throw that evidence out
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What is the exact law in California in regards to tape recording?

Also, had read somewhere, maybe here, someone saying that she had a ton of recordings, and that it was with his consent, because she was helping him write a book, but that could be complete bullshit.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

mook said:
Will they need to admit the actual recordings as evidence though? This is all public record now. The recordings may have originally been illegal, but it's not like the NBA made them. These recordings are in the public domain for everybody to hear (which is the whole problem). Why would a jury not be allowed to read, say, a transcript of them printed in the New York Times? Seems like it'd be admissible to me.

Seems to me that the real bone of contention is whether the league has the ability under their constitution to give Sterling the boot.

*shrug* I'm not a lawyer, though.
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Evidence must be obtained legally. Newspaper clippings don't count.
 
Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

RR7 said:
What is the exact law in California in regards to tape recording?

Also, had read somewhere, maybe here, someone saying that she had a ton of recordings, and that it was with his consent, because she was helping him write a book, but that could be complete bullshit.
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Before u tape anyone, you must have them in record acknowledging they are being recorded. If not, it cannot be used.

There is a loophole though. Anything left on an answering machine or text message can be used though.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

magnifier661 said:
Because it sets a precedent that is beyond "law". Think about it bro. Is it against the law for a white man to yell out racial slurs? Yet an NBA owner is being forced out, for not breaking the law. So what Cuban is proclaiming is the same. The nature in which he was forced out has nothing to do with 30% of the States voting for it. Hell 0% of the states in the USA says its against the law to say racial slurs.
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You're right - it's not illegal to say racial slurs, but it's always socially unacceptable. It is, however, socially acceptable to express approval of gay marriage in the right context, which is voting. The NBA's name would not be jeopardized if an owner merely voted to keep same-sex marriage. The NBA's business interest wouldn't be harmed much if at all by an owner voting for same-sex marriage.

What may be more debatable is if Sterling said "I don't want gay people at my games." Then the NBA may be in hot water, but it still probably wouldn't be as bad for him. Whether that's right or wrong is subject to debate, although I personally don't think so. America's history of racism against Blacks, Sterling's alleged history of racism, and the fact that the NBA is comprised mostly of Black players make racism more of an issue for the NBA than homophobia.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Treaty_of_Batum said:
I feel terrible for Donald
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I think he is a bad person, but getting that punishment for saying what he said in the privacy of his own damn home is ridiculous, when NBA players break actual laws and get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

If you think his punishment fits his crime then I think you are wrong.

I, for one, will be extremely interested to see the penalty handed down to the next black player who breaks the law. Also anxious to see the NAACP come out and make a statement commending the commish for his harsh penalty
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Whew, I saw this thread title and I thought you guys were finally getting rid of me.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Mr. J said:
You're right - it's not illegal to say racial slurs, but it's always socially unacceptable. It is, however, socially acceptable to express approval of gay marriage in the right context, which is voting. The NBA's name would not be jeopardized if an owner merely voted to keep same-sex marriage.

What may be more debatable is if Sterling said "I don't want gay people at my games." Then the NBA may be in hot water, but it still probably wouldn't be as bad for him. Whether that's right or wrong is subject to debate, although I personally don't think so. America's history of racism against Blacks, Sterling's alleged history of racism, and the fact that the NBA is comprised mostly of Black players make racism more of an issue for the NBA than homophobia.
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But here's the thing. I bet he has more blacks working for his organization that any other race. So it wasn't "I don't want any blacks at my game". It was "I don't want you seen with blacks at the game".
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

I just hope that if he is going to be a tough commish, that he is as tough on the players as well.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

A defiant Donald Sterling just said he would NOT sell the Los Angeles Clippers.

Sterling told Fox News' Jim Gray the team was NOT for sale. Gray said on Fox News he spoke with Sterling just before NBA Commish Adam Silver banned Sterling for life.

Silver said in his news conference ... if 3/4 of the NBA owners get on board they can force Sterling to sell the team. If that happens it looks like Sterling may well go to legal war.

It sounds like it may come to that.
 
Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

A defiant Donald Sterling just said he would NOT sell the Los Angeles Clippers.

Sterling told Fox News' Jim Gray the team was NOT for sale. Gray said on Fox News he spoke with Sterling just before NBA Commish Adam Silver banned Sterling for life.

Silver said in his news conference ... if 3/4 of the NBA owners get on board they can force Sterling to sell the team. If that happens it looks like Sterling may well go to legal war.

It sounds like it may come to that.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

crandc said:
No, this is not thought police or slippery slope. And it has nothing to do with any vote, which is a private matter.
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A conversation between a man and his girlfriend in an isolated location isn't a private matter? I bet most of you can recall conversations or jokes you told that you are glad didn't get recorded and put out for all to see.

I think most of you get my point. The saying goes "bad facts make bad law." Sterling's comments were very bad facts and he deserves what he gets. Only time will tell regarding the rest.

And Eastoff, I do have the right to voice my opinion on this topic as it does relate to the content of the thread. I'm sorry if you don't like what I said, but fortunately you don't get to decide who must go to the OT forum.

The true irony here is that Sterling will make the most money out of this if he just shuts up, lets the league sell the team at their peak price and takes the money and runs. In a way, Silver is giving him a way to max out his investment--an unfortunate consequence.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Mediocre Man said:
I think he is a bad person, but getting that punishment for saying what he said in the privacy of his own damn home is ridiculous, when NBA players break actual laws and get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

If you think his punishment fits his crime then I think you are wrong.

I, for one, will be extremely interested to see the penalty handed down to the next black player who breaks the law. Also anxious to see the NAACP come out and make a statement commending the commish for his harsh penalty
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I don't think this is as much about law breaking than it is about a racist being in so much power in the blackest professional sports league in the country.

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Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

SlyPokerDog said:
A defiant Donald Sterling just said he would NOT sell the Los Angeles Clippers.

Sterling told Fox News' Jim Gray the team was NOT for sale. Gray said on Fox News he spoke with Sterling just before NBA Commish Adam Silver banned Sterling for life.

Silver said in his news conference ... if 3/4 of the NBA owners get on board they can force Sterling to sell the team. If that happens it looks like Sterling may well go to legal war.

It sounds like it may come to that.
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Yep and he actually has a good case too.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I agree with Sterling on this.

I wouldn't sell my team either. Does anyone seriously believe that no other owner in the NBA has spewed a racist statement in the privacy of their own home or to their golfing buddies? Every damn person any of us knows has made a bigoted comment at least once.

I hope all of you demanding his head have hurricane proof glass on your houses.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

magnifier661 said:
But here's the thing. I bet he has more blacks working for his organization that any other race. So it wasn't "I don't want any blacks at my game". It was "I don't want you seen with blacks at the game".
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But both comments are equally offensive and still socially unacceptable. The fact that he has more Blacks working for his organization isn't necessarily a positive if he sees them as nothing but property that can make him money.
 
Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Mr. J said:
But both comments are equally offensive and still socially unacceptable. The fact that he has more Blacks working for his organization isn't necessarily a positive if he sees them as nothing but property that can make him money.
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Sorry you are absolutely incorrect. If he owned them, he wouldn't have to give them a salary. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if "blacks" working for him make more than any other nationality, being the players, coach and executives.
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Mediocre Man said:
I agree with Sterling on this.

I wouldn't sell my team either. Does anyone seriously believe that no other owner in the NBA has spewed a racist statement in the privacy of their own home or to their golfing buddies? Every damn person any of us knows has made a bigoted comment at least once.

I hope all of you demanding his head have hurricane proof glass on your houses.
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I can demand his head in much the same way where if I said something similar, I could expect a similar result in my job.

But hey look, Blazers being up 3-1 and playing fun basketball couldn't get you to be active on the board, but a race based ruling sure as shit could!
 
Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

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