OT: Meyers about to be in hot water again...

[RoseCityRebel]

Could we all agree we miss the days when online gaming and LARPing was much more fun? People get so angry now in their little online communities.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

I'm saying if someone says they're a Blazer fan, but tell you "you know, I actually enjoy it when the Lakers win the title", chances are they're not actually a Blazer fan.

So you’re a tribalist who equates sports’ fandom with real life nuanced differences on social issues.

Is that what you mean, because that’s a very simplistic post if so.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

You do realize that a lot of the more successful streamers are brands and run it like a business, right? They treat it like their livelihood because it is. Others have side jobs as IT consultants and such and have degrees.

Meyers wasn't a successful streamer. He had clout before he got on there.

Now it's gone because he intentionally used a racial slur.

Hint: all the details are out. He meant what he said.

You lost the argument. Move on.

Meyers had a contract to Twitch his games once in a while. You’re some dude on a message board.

 

[Minstrel]

People get so angry now in their little online communities.

You seem like the angriest person in this thread. But that's kind of at the heart of white resentment, so that's not exactly a huge surprise.

 

[BonesJones]

How old are you? I find this shocking that anyone doesn't know what that means.

I also didnt know what it meant to be honest.

 

[riverman]

I also didnt know what it meant to be honest.

In many ways that's actually a good thing...it says that in some way my generation helped to eliminate it from the language wherever possible. I grew up when entertainers said shit like that all the time.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I knew what it meant. Whenever the Dodgers Kike Hernandez was on highlights or posted online in posts I was always like WTF.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Miami Reddit has been quite brutal today

 

[julius]

So you’re a tribalist who equates sports’ fandom with real life nuanced differences on social issues.

Is that what you mean, because that’s a very simplistic post if so.

I really like how you think you're making some big grand point here, but you're really not.

 

[riverman]

Miami Reddit has been quite brutal today

Meyers looks like he's going for the Rutger Hauer droid look from Blade Runner there

 

[Tince]

I also didnt know what it meant to be honest.

Same... never heard the term.

All the more reason it would have never came out of my mouth I guess.

 

[Strenuus]

It's well known

Ita been known for decades.

Meyers knew.

 

[julius]

Thing that's weird is, while it is an older slur, it's most definitely a slur used by anti-Semites and *ONLY* anti-Semites.

It's not like the N word which has been embraced (for lack of a better word) by African-Americans/Blacks (in that they've taken ownership over it, changing the power of the word to a degree). I really doubt you'll find too many Jewish people going like "how it's going, my ****!?!"

But seriously, in what context could you ever say what Meyers said, and not have it be a slur or have previous knowledge of it being a slur or massive insult.

In my entire life I've never accidentally said a racial slur (I'm not saying I've never said one. I'm human, I've said stupid things before).

 

[calvin natt]

I love (hate) that non-Jewish people say “what’s the big deal I’ve never even heard of it”, I wonder if they could find one Jew who hasn’t heard of it. It’s offensive to them, that’s what matters. Not your feelings, but theirs.

 

[julius]

It may not be a current or modern day slur (there are obviously slurs that are much more known) but anyone who says it (in this manner especially) has to know what it means. It's not like it randomly is brought up in casual conversation and when someone asks "hey whats that mean?" the response is "um, it means...jerk? I guess. I don't know, my grandpappy used to say it about his neighbor, the Cohens"

 

[wizenheimer]

if you've never heard the word and don't know what it means, why would you use it to curse?

 

[BlazerBeav]

Are you saying we Progressives are all the same? Because it seemed like that’s your point. Explain?

It is impressive how in this town, the only answer is to be even further left, or you're a Proud Boy. That's the discourse from the folks way out there.

 

[julius]

if you've never heard the word and don't know what it means, why would you say use it to curse?

Or use it as an insult?

Exactly. He knew. He just thought either he was among like minded people or that it really didn't matter. It's similar to that fucking idiot John Rocker.

 

[RR7]

It is impressive how in this town, the only answer is to be even further left, or you're a Proud Boy. That's the discourse from the folks way out there.

Way out there is the side saying don't call people a Jewish slur? If you wanna support someone's right to say that, then go die on that hill. That's on you. Don't think people are way out there for thinking it's a shitty thing to say and Meyers sucks. For that and other reasons.

 

[julius]

Way out there is the side saying don't call people a Jewish slur? If you wanna support someone's right to say that, then go die on that hill. That's on you. Don't think people are way out there for thinking it's a shitty thing to say and Meyers sucks. For that and other reasons.

He, Meyers, has every right to say it. No doubt. But his right to say it doesn't abscond him from dealing with what he said.

I think the difference is people defending what he said, not THAT he said it.

 

[RR7]

He, Meyers, has every right to say it. No doubt. But his right to say it doesn't abscond him from dealing with what he said.

I think the difference is people defending what he said, not THAT he said it.

very true. I didn't word that the way I intended. I acknowledge and own my mistake, and there is no running from something like this. I promise to do better and know my future actions will be more powerful.

 

[julius]

very true. I didn't word that the way I intended. I acknowledge and own my mistake, and there is no running from something like this. I promise to do better and know my future actions will be more powerful.

I hope you're also seeking out help from those who can help you discover why you made that mistake and will help you do better.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Oh please. Kobe called a ref a homophonic slur on live TV and nobody cared. Two players earlier this season were bashing Jewish people to the point of saying they don’t matter.

Meyer’s is a big goofy white guy who chose to stand to honor his brother and those KIA during the anthem so that makes him a target for the White Guilt Woke Mob. It’s a word. People are such babies these days.

I cared. But that’s just one of the many reasons to hate Kobe never mind that he was an overrated basketball player who refused to shoot in the second half of a Game 7 and shot 6 of 24 in another. Awful player. Awful person.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well there’s a red herring. You have almost 73,000 posts on just one message board, and in most of them I’ve read your posts are angry and negative. Do you thrive on conflict?

Totally. I love it. Feed me Seymour.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm always amused by how these topics bring out the people who wouldn't normally display bigotry but get their white resentment out by vigorously defending bigots as victims of political correctness.

Why do you hate white people minstrel? We are the best thing since sliced bread.... or should I say sliced WHITE bread.

 

[AldoTrapani]

I cared. But that’s just one of the many reasons to hate Kobe never mind that he was an overrated basketball player who refused to shoot in the second half of a Game 7 and shot 6 of 24 in another. Awful player. Awful person.

Relax

 

[crandc]

I should have used green fond when I say that. I was being incredibly sardonic, sorry for not being clearer.

Ok

 

[crandc]

When I was in high school, a woman who was over for dinner, and I can't recall who she was or how she got a dinner invite, used the n word. My mother turned to her and said politely but firmly, "we do not use that word in this home". She tried to argue, Black people use it blah blah. My mother refused to argue, just repeated, "we do not use that word in this home".
I tried using it once when I was a kid to see how my parents would react. You don't want to know.
Gay people sometimes use the f word among ourselves, jokingly, but it's not funny when straights use it. Young gay people started using Queer as a way of saying they did not want to be respectable bourgeois gays, I see where they are coming from but still struggling with the word.

I have never heard Jews use k word or other slurs among ourselves jokingly. Never.

 

[kjironman1]

This is a league that ignores genocide of Muslims in China because of how dependent it is on Chinese consumers.

I'm less likely to do so in relation to racial slurs.

Also keep in mind they have sensitivity seminars during their time in the NBA if im not mistaken (you know, like most any other company)..

Are we now talking about the business of the NBA? It’s not faux outrage.

Big deal, not like he raped someone or beat his wife.

There is another conversation in another thread that touches on this. Yes we are indeed talking about business in the NBA.

Right now Meyers Leonard's sponsorship is being pulled. The team has issued a statement that they will investigate it and until further notice Meyers will not be "With the Team". The entire media portion of the NBA is "Aghast" that this could even happen. Yes even major Blazer writers probably will jump in. Quick most certainly will write something up but in true Quick form he will wait until he can put himself in the conversation and will also draw as much from other comments as possible. Canzano has been all about Ducks but I'm willing to bet he rears his head on this issue as well. Already been touched on by Dan Marang. Casey Hodahl has been silent. Aron Yohannes has wrote about it and of course the Oregonian posted the Associated press story.

The response has been as pretty much expected for a situation like this. You can bet Meyers is about done at least for the time being. Memories about this sort of thing can be pretty short in the end though. Right now people who have a deciding factor in business that command Millions and even Billions of dollars are pushing that send button and making statements. I really like the comment that compares it to a rapist because it makes a huge point. Would Kobe have been treated this way? How about Doncic? After a year will the smoke settle? Will Meyers be waived in the short term and then get picked up and play a backup role again somewhere else next fall when less people are talking about it?

One thing everyone seems to agree on is that he should not have said it. Even he thinks this now. A huge difference is this will not be going to trial and will blow over fairly quickly. Kobe was in the news for months and months. I would expect that this will boil down to a slap on the wrist. Meyers will continue to do stupid things but not THIS stupid thing. If Meyers was on the road and cheated on his wife with a dancer/hooker who then accused him of rape and sodomy without consent he would be done for life no question and probably convicted and sent to jail. Not to mention he would end up divorced. The idea he will be judged in the same way as Kobe is laughable at best.

When he is brought up in threads someone will without doubt call him a racist POS. He will have to do a bunch of community type service to get back on track but he will do that most likely. The thing is he has a few years left to play and he is a 7 footer. That vets minimum contract still gets him a couple million a year. You can bet he will take whatever class he needs to and he will come up with a deal for a contract. I can see him using this as a spring board to become the poster child for "hey i was stupid but now i know better" type campaign in the league. There are those who will eat it up.

 

[kjironman1]

It was kind of like his 3 point pause.

You gotta admit that is funny.