OT: Meyers about to be in hot water again...

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Way wrong to use derogatory words or statements, its doesn't help or lift anyone up at all.
It's possible he was naive in using the word but at his age he needs to be responsible either way.
 
When people of any age are compulsive with games, movies, politics (lol) that spread hate its going to effect them in some way, or act things out. When I listened to him on that video I was amazed at all hyped up he was and disappointed big time.
What game was it he was playing?
 
kjironman1 said:
There is another conversation in another thread that touches on this. Yes we are indeed talking about business in the NBA.

Right now Meyers Leonard's sponsorship is being pulled. The team has issued a statement that they will investigate it and until further notice Meyers will not be "With the Team". The entire media portion of the NBA is "Aghast" that this could even happen. Yes even major Blazer writers probably will jump in. Quick most certainly will write something up but in true Quick form he will wait until he can put himself in the conversation and will also draw as much from other comments as possible. Canzano has been all about Ducks but I'm willing to bet he rears his head on this issue as well. Already been touched on by Dan Marang. Casey Hodahl has been silent. Aron Yohannes has wrote about it and of course the Oregonian posted the Associated press story.

The response has been as pretty much expected for a situation like this. You can bet Meyers is about done at least for the time being. Memories about this sort of thing can be pretty short in the end though. Right now people who have a deciding factor in business that command Millions and even Billions of dollars are pushing that send button and making statements. I really like the comment that compares it to a rapist because it makes a huge point. Would Kobe have been treated this way? How about Doncic? After a year will the smoke settle? Will Meyers be waived in the short term and then get picked up and play a backup role again somewhere else next fall when less people are talking about it?

One thing everyone seems to agree on is that he should not have said it. Even he thinks this now. A huge difference is this will not be going to trial and will blow over fairly quickly. Kobe was in the news for months and months. I would expect that this will boil down to a slap on the wrist. Meyers will continue to do stupid things but not THIS stupid thing. If Meyers was on the road and cheated on his wife with a dancer/hooker who then accused him of rape and sodomy without consent he would be done for life no question and probably convicted and sent to jail. Not to mention he would end up divorced. The idea he will be judged in the same way as Kobe is laughable at best.

When he is brought up in threads someone will without doubt call him a racist POS. He will have to do a bunch of community type service to get back on track but he will do that most likely. The thing is he has a few years left to play and he is a 7 footer. That vets minimum contract still gets him a couple million a year. You can bet he will take whatever class he needs to and he will come up with a deal for a contract. I can see him using this as a spring board to become the poster child for "hey i was stupid but now i know better" type campaign in the league. There are those who will eat it up.
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It was not superlikely that Meyers was going to earn another contract anyway. His contract next year is not guaranteed. He'll be cut at the end of the season (not traded, even though his expiring contract is a decent trade piece, but because Miami has intentionally created cap space to make a run at an FA). A year from now, we'll be in the throes of March Madness, and most non-Portland, non-Heat nba fans will have forgotten about him completely.

One of he sad parts of the whole thing is that he'll never be invited back by any team, even as some sort of celebration of team history, he's done. He was a scapegoat in Portland, and now that stain will be permanent.

I still like Meyers. As long as he's playing for another team, of course. I still very much believe he is a good person. Yes, he is an idiot. But, he's always been that...
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Wizard Mentor said:
It was not superlikely that Meyers was going to earn another contract anyway. His contract next year is not guaranteed. He'll be cut at the end of the season (not traded, even though his expiring contract is a decent trade piece, but because Miami has intentionally created cap space to make a run at an FA). A year from now, we'll be in the throes of March Madness, and most non-Portland, non-Heat nba fans will have forgotten about him completely.

One of he sad parts of the whole thing is that he'll never be invited back by any team, even as some sort of celebration of team history, he's done. He was a scapegoat in Portland, and now that stain will be permanent.

I still like Meyers. As long as he's playing for another team, of course. I still very much believe he is a good person. Yes, he is an idiot. But, he's always been that...
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Not so sure about that? Like i said above. People have very short memories and they also are willing, if the person is worthy, to give second chances.
He has 4-6 more years left in the tank easy. Vets minimum is cheap for a backup big that can shoot. Distant memory in 4-6 months. Even more so if he does a class and contributes in some way (Anything for money right).
I don't feel Meyers is completely done just yet. Right team in the right area and he is back in business. He will do whatever they ask. $2.3-2.5 million is worth it. Remember there are NBA teams all over the country. States that might be more forgiving than others.
 
The thing here with Meyers is that out of ALL the players in the NBA

I’m not surprised AT ALL Meyers is the one who said some silly stuff

standing vs kneeling
Writing an article as to why
Racial conversations with his teammates on why he is all lives matter or whatever

Which is interesting because on his team he has Tyler Herro who would def get an invite to the cookout

Riley Cooper NBA edition
 
kjironman1 said:
Not so sure about that? Like i said above. People have very short memories and they also are willing, if the person is worthy, to give second chances.
He has 4-6 more years left in the tank easy. Vets minimum is cheap for a backup big that can shoot. Distant memory in 4-6 months. Even more so if he does a class and contributes in some way (Anything for money right).
I don't feel Meyers is completely done just yet. Right team in the right area and he is back in business. He will do whatever they ask. $2.3-2.5 million is worth it. Remember there are NBA teams all over the country. States that might be more forgiving than others.
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Look at how many NBA players that have come back from bad situations. The only things is nowadays people are quick to cancel or excommunicate. And in some cases it eats its own.
 
Hoopguru said:
Look at how many NBA players that have come back from bad situations. The only things is nowadays people are quick to cancel or excommunicate. And in some cases it eats its own.
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Not saying you are wrong at all. I just think he will work hard to get back and they will eventually call it a stupid move and move on.
 
When i was in gradeschool i was at a school kids house paying after school. His neighbor(asian) left as i was entering.
As he let me in he said some slurs(i will never forget)



i didnt get it at the time, but it always stuck with me and years later I realized how bad it was.

Thankfully, i never repeated it in the same manner ignorantly.
 
Orion Bailey said:
When i was in gradeschool i was at a school kids house paying after school. His neighbor(asian) left as i was entering.
As he let me in he said some slurs (i will never forget)



i didnt get it at the time, but it always stuck with me and years later I realized how bad it was.

Thankfully, i never repeated it in the same manner ignorantly.
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Go watch Eddie Murphy "Delirious" again sometime. You will know times have indeed changed.
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kjironman1 said:
Not saying you are wrong at all. I just think he will work hard to get back and they will eventually call it a stupid move and move on.
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I agree...People shouldn't underestimate his wife and her ability to advocate for him.
 
I might have it wrong, but I believe Crandc is Jewish and she's spoken about this. I think she was insulted by both words he used.
 
Meyers Leonard moves to another team 3000 miles away (and one and a half seasons ago) and yet he still has an innate (and incredibly impressive) ability to trigger a fairly large segment of SC2. Shitty career statistics aside, the guy was always a doofus, no matter how you sliced it. And this stupid comment should not be any real surprise. Seems like his wife always drove the bus, and apparently if she’s not around to ride herd on him he’s even more of a loose cannon. Personally I’m just glad he’s not our problem anymore.......
 
Hoopguru said:
I agree...People shouldn't underestimate his wife and her ability to advocate for him.
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...also wondering how this will impact her granola bar business. I suppose they may lose orders initially but if the spin and messaging is right, then I could see even more support for them as a whole. Maybe. Because the internet on its own is relentless so thelat business could be finished too. The cute little viral marketing they used might not be received in the same light now.
 
HAAK72 said:
...also wondering how this will impact her granola bar business. I suppose they may lose orders initially but if the spin and messaging is right, then I could see even more support for them as a whole.
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the reality is this will all be forgotten within a month. At the end of the day, it’s still just a big dumb idiot playing a video game. In the grand scheme of things, whatever.
 
Meyers was stupid and at a minimum he was giving in to prejudice he carries around inside; he betrayed his better angels. I 'know' this because I'm white too, and nearing 70. And quite a ways back I realized that one of the legacies granted me as a white man is the legacy of bias and prejudice and bigotry that is woven into the American experience. One thing I've learned is that the process of "I know better than that now" never ends. At least it doesn't for anybody with a conscience and an ability to self-examine. Yeah, I guess that sounds too grandiose but I'm not a Hemingway or a Salinger

perhaps Meyers is going to pay too heavy a price for a mistake, especially if it was a one-off (unlikely). But playing in the NBA is a massive gift granted by the genetic lottery. It's a privilege built upon the random circumstances of conception and birth. If anybody should be mindful of that reality and the impact of prejudice, it's a white man in the NBA. Meyers will have made 60 million dollars playing in the NBA by the end of June. If he doesn't earn a single NBA dollar after that, it's on him, not anybody else.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Meyers Leonard moves to another team 3000 miles away (and one and a half seasons ago) and yet he still has an innate (and incredibly impressive) ability to trigger a fairly large segment of SC2. Shitty career statistics aside, the guy was always a doofus, no matter how you sliced it. And this stupid comment should not be any real surprise. Seems like his wife always drove the bus, and apparently if she’s not around to ride herd on him he’s even more of a loose cannon. Personally I’m just glad he’s not our problem anymore.......
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Hey bro... i have a Jersey to sell you!
 
I think Ron White's most famous saying applies here...
wizenheimer said:
Meyers was stupid and at a minimum he was giving in to prejudice he carries around inside; he betrayed his better angels. I 'know' this because I'm white too, and nearing 70. And quite a ways back I realized that one of the legacies granted me as a white man is the legacy of bias and prejudice and bigotry that is woven into the American experience. One thing I've learned is that the process of "I know better than that now" never ends. At least it doesn't for anybody with a conscience and an ability to self-examine. Yeah, I guess that sounds too grandiose but I'm not a Hemingway or a Salinger

perhaps Meyers is going to pay too heavy a price for a mistake, especially if it was a one-off (unlikely). But playing in the NBA is a massive gift granted by the genetic lottery. It's a privilege built upon the random circumstances of conception and birth. If anybody should be mindful of that reality and the impact of prejudice, it's a white man in the NBA. Meyers will have made 60 million dollars playing in the NBA by the end of June. If he doesn't earn a single NBA dollar after that, it's on him, not anybody else.
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Meyers has made about 70 million dollars playing basketball....money is not his driving force anymore I"m sure
 
Is it a racial slur or an ethnic slur?

Also, can you be Jewish if you don't practice Judaism?

These are important questions I need answers to.
 
wizenheimer said:
if you've never heard the word and don't know what it means, why would you use it to curse?
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Exactly this. He obviously knew not to use that word in a post game press conference or in other situations. He also used the word in a way that even if you didn't know the exact definition you know it's a bad word.
 
hoopsjock said:
Exactly this. He obviously knew not to use that word in a post game press conference or in other situations. He also used the word in a way that even if you didn't know the exact definition you know it's a bad word.
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Is it really that hard to conceive that he knew that the word was intended to be insulting, but that he was unaware that it was an ethnic slur?

I mean, intuitively I personally doubt that's the case; I'm just saying that the evidence of him not using it in post-game pressers doesn't really indicate otherwise.
 
tlongII said:
Is it a racial slur or an ethnic slur?

Also, can you be Jewish if you don't practice Judaism?

These are important questions I need answers to.
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Ethnic. And yes. As I understand it, most of Jewish (or Hebrew, or Israelite) ethnicity focus more on heritage than religious practice.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Is it really that hard to conceive that he knew that the word was intended to be insulting, but that he was unaware that it was an ethnic slur?

I mean, intuitively I personally doubt that's the case; I'm just saying that the evidence of him not using it in post-game pressers doesn't really indicate otherwise.
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As a professional figure though even if I gave him the benefit of the doubt and believed he was unaware it was an ethnic slur, I still have a problem with "learning" a word and not ever questioning why it's bad to say or why it's an insult (which he obviously used in that way). You have kids. There's always fresh lingo. Nowadays it's "cap" or "bet" or in my day the word "tight" was something said commonly. However if I had never heard a word like the one Meyers used and it wasn't just a common word with a cool new meaning it is absolutely my responsibility to know what it is I'm saying when I use that word.
 
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