Outlaw/Harris coming to Portland?

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Ya well, I hated the way Nate used him. He might have been more productive as a Blazer, but him playing >25 mpg was a detriment to the team.
 
Blazinaway said:
as I just said that's just too much salary IMO for POR to take on just to get harris
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If there were any reasonable way to do it without parting with Andre though, I'd be fully in favor.

You think there's any way they'd include Favors if we gave them Oden? :biglaugh:
 
maxiep said:
I don't want TO back at that price, but we'd be getting the old Outlaw, not the NJ one. Nate knows how to use him, and I think the smaller town atmosphere makes Travis more comfortable.
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Travis Outlaw is horrible. It doesn't matter which coach is using him. He gets the ball, and turns an easy shot into a hard one. That is Travis Outlaw. It won't matter if if is Avory Johnson or Nate McMillan coaching him.
 
I sure hope not. Because if they do, combined those salaries with Roy's, Aldridge, and whatever happens with Oden, and there is pretty much no space to bring in talent for the next 4 years, all of course depending on the salary cap final numbers and if it is a hard cap or not.
 
Lets keep in mind all the Harris/NJ talk could be just smoke to get Denver to panic a bit. If NJ does other trades then Denver loses big time leverage to New York. Look behind the curtain.
 
Blazinaway said:
Lets keep in mind all the Harris/NJ talk could be just smoke to get Denver to panic a bit. If NJ does other trades then Denver loses big time leverage to New York. Look behind the curtain.
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The question is the guy behind the curtain Cho, or is it the Russian mafia lord billionaire pulling the strings? :ohno:
 
Hollinger weighs in....

Darren (Los Angeles)

What do you think of the rumors of a Devin Harris for Andre Miller swap? Why would the Nets do this?
John Hollinger (12:10 PM)

That's the part I don't get. Harris-Miller makes a lot of sense from Portland's side, even if Miller is a better player right now. From New Jersey's? A lottery team getting ten years older at the point? That's silliness... would have involve a third team to move Miller there.
 
Maybe Hollinger doesn't realize miller's contract isn't guaranteed next season?
 
This deal saves me personally 900 dollars since there is no way I would renew my season tickets for next season if this gets done.


Outlaw fucking sucks ass.
Morrow is not good.
Harris is a poor man's Andre Miller.


The trade is insane.

That's why I think the rumor is true.
Sounds like a Cho type deal to me.
 
so you would rather have miiler/pryz then those 3 next year? yeah you are insane
 
WFAN just was doing a nets contest for tickets and the host said " if harris isnt in portland by then"

They think hes 100% gone. However the co host said "take em please"
 
MIXUM said:
WFAN just was doing a nets contest for tickets and the host said " if harris isnt in portland by then"

They think hes 100% gone. However the co host said "take em please"
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That doesn't mean it is to Portland though.
 
Chris (Rhode Island)

Blazer rumors? Got any juicy ones?
John Hollinger (12:42 PM)

The Devin Harris stuff is definitely real, but they're worried about his durability -- Miller never misses games, Harris misses 15-20 a year. That's a worry. Also, I'd be surprised if they moved Camby -- top goal this year is still "make playoffs", and now that they're playing so well I have a tough time seeing them strip it down for parts.
 
MIXUM said:
so you would rather have miiler/pryz then those 3 next year? yeah you are insane
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Yeah, I would.

Harris misses 15 to 20 games a season, can't shoot, can't defend and thinks he is the man.
Outlaw is fucking horrible.
Morrow is actually worse.

Andre is better then all three put togther and that won't change next year or the year after that.

I wouldn't mind trading Joel for someone but his value is probably around zero.


I am not completely opposed to trading Andre but it better bring back something good.
This trade only brings back garbage.
 
If this is the best Cho can do we are in for a rough tenure with this GM. The signs were already there that it might be the case. This would verify it in my book.
 
http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landing?W...22&feedID=8351

UPDATE: This is just one version of a long-rumored trade between Portland and New Jersey involving Miller. PLEASE ... no more Travis Outlaw!

All along I've thought that the Trail Blazers would make a move just prior to next week's trade deadline. And all along, I figured that move would include dealing Andre Miller.

I didn't think that would be the only move, but I figured it would be a key piece.

Now, I'm not so sure. In fact, the recent uptick in play by the Trail Blazers along with the emergence of LaMarcus Aldridge as a big-time player has changed that. And I'm not usually the guy who confuses short-term success with long-term gain. This franchise needs to think big picture and that vision would normally see someone a lot younger at point guard -- a player who would be young enough to lead this core group of players on a deep playoff run someday.

But Miller has forced me to look at things a little differently. For one thing, I think he has a lot to do with the team's recent improvement -- yes, real improvement. It's not just a different cast of characters out there playing recently, it's that those players have improved. They're playing much better together and making smarter decisions.

I think Miller has a lot to do with that. He's one of the smartest point guards in the league, a man who relies on cunning, guile and experience rather than raw physical skills. He's tough, he plays hard every night and he doesn't ever seemed deterred by momentary setbacks or failures.

He just keeps coming at you, play after play.

He's set a great example of professionalism on the floor and I believe he's been instrumental in helping Aldridge become the player he's become. Watch how often Miller gets Aldridge the ball not necessarily when Aldridge calls for it, but when Miller sees he's established perfect post position. If he's not in that spot, Miller gives him time to get there.

Small thing, big results.

The Blazers could move Miller, yes. But I think it would be a most painful departure and it's something that would really complicate the team's progress for the rest of the season and beyond.

If I were Rich Cho, it would be hard for me to make that move. I'd have to get a point guard in return and he'd have to be a good one. A good young one. And I'm not even sure Devin Harris -- the name most frequently mentioned -- fills that bill. I just haven't seen enough of him to know how well he could run this team -- and not just for the rest of this season but for seasons to come.

I do think Portland will be moving Joel Przybilla. His expiring contract makes him an attractive piece and shedding that obligation brings the Blazers down under the luxury tax. And really, if I were a team looking for a solid big man, I'd be tempted to gamble on him. Right now, he's a shadow of his former self but I do believe as a veteran player, it's taking him longer to recover from his surgery than it might take other players.

Nobody will work harder to recover, though, than Przybilla and I could make a case that he will get back to his old shotblocking self at some point.

There are rumors out there now that the Blazers are looking to add another big man. If they do, it would probably be a precursor to dealing either Przybilla or Marcus Camby. Certainly there is a much bigger market for Camby than Przybilla. Although older, Camby is still a viable starting center in the NBA -- a defender and shotblocker who could help push a good team over the top.

It's possible some people could be getting a little carried away with Portland's 10-4 record without Camby. But I'd tread softly there. The Blazers are consistently being outrebounded -- and that's a category that was a strength when Camby played.

I'd be careful about dealing Camby, too. He's a double-digit rebounding guy in big games who will block a couple of shots every night. I don't see that coming from anyone else on this roster.

All of this points out how seriously difficult Cho's job is right now. As his team sits on a six-game winning streak and occupies the fifth spot in the Western Conference standings at the All-Star break, he has to decide how much he buys into his team's recent success.

Is this team, as constituted, good enough to build on? Or is it best to just get on with some major rebuilding? Is what we're seeing now the core of a championship team?

Deep down, you have to doubt that. You have to think there are still major pieces to be added for that to happen. And to do that, some painful decisions must be made about trading away current players.

And that will mean risking short-term losses to build long-term success. And it was just a few years ago we went through that same, painful process here.
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e_blazer said:
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Do you not know how to provide a link or at least quote your source?
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Or if nothing else, wrap the quote in
tags so that it is obvious that it is someone else's work (as though the capitalization/punctuation didn't make that obvious enough...)
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Some around here want to execute Cho because of a Hollinger rumor. Funny.
 
Interesting perspective i have read...

Harris had to get away from Avery Johnson to become an all-star......

Might be true!
 
The reason I wouldn't mind Harris at all is because I think he would be the kind of player for the Blazers that he was for the Mavericks. He was a good defender then and never tried to do too much. I just remember him killing the Spurs in the playoffs a couple of games and that Tony Parker was happy when he heard the Mavs traded him. I think he could be remotivated coming to a competitive team and we all know that McMillan gets the most out of his players.

edit - that stretch of games in the playoffs

20/24/18/15pts

Didn't do much else but him and Terry sort of shared the PG duties then and it was only Harris' 2nd year in the league. I remember watching him that series just blow by Parker and getting to the rim at will. He was getting everything in the paint.
 
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He should just spread another Kobe cheating rumor. No NBA reporters would ask him a question for days.
 
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