Pacers ganna give Paul George give 5 years 90 million....

[BigGameDamian]

This makes the Blazers contract extension (4 years 46 million) with Batum look genius.



The Indiana Pacers and Paul George are finalizing a five-year, $90 million-plus maximum contract extension, according to league sources.

George is expected to sign the deal this week.

A member of the 2010 draft class, George has until Oct. 31 to agree upon an extension with the Pacers to avoid restricted free agency next summer.

George averaged 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game last season, his third in the NBA.

 

[julius]

This makes the Blazers contract extension (4 years 46 million) with Batum look genius.



The Indiana Pacers and Paul George are finalizing a five-year, $90 million-plus maximum contract extension, according to league sources.

George is expected to sign the deal this week.

A member of the 2010 draft class, George has until Oct. 31 to agree upon an extension with the Pacers to avoid restricted free agency next summer.

George averaged 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game last season, his third in the NBA.

Well, it makes it look reasonable. I think George has a higher ceiling and overall his stats were better.

While I do think he's better, I'm not so sure he's 7 million PER year better though.

 

[MARIS61]

That's a bargain for 1/2 of The Beatles!

 

[THE HCP]

Nic averaged 14.3/5.6/4.9

They're paying George MVP money.Looks like we got a GREAT deal.


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[BlazerCaravan]

That's a bargain for 1/2 of The Beatles!

Johnny Ringo is licking his chops...

 

[Run BJM]

Nic averaged 14.3/5.6/4.9

They're paying George MVP money.Looks like we got a GREAT deal.

George might actually get MVP votes if the Pacers are a top 3 team in the league this regular season. Remember, they took the Heat to 7 games on the backs of George and Hibbert. They're a small market team and they know they need to lock up their stars ASAP and treat them right if they want to be a destination franchise. The only way George stays is if they pay him the max, so why fight with him over it? Its probably cheaper to sign him now as a 3 year guy than waiting as long as possible (at least one year right?) to ultimately max him out.

With the new CBA, if you've got core guys that you can contend with you gotta lock them up and keep all the other players on short, small deals. Feaux stars getting large chunks of the cap are not ideal. And Batum isn't even a feaux star. I'd rather have George at max than Batum at 11.5 mils/year.

 

[THE HCP]

I'd rather have George at max than Batum at 11.5 mils/year.

I agrees with everything you posted until this. Totally disagree!


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[Charcoal Filtered]

George and Hibbert also had David West, George Hill, and a bench of serviceable players. They were not trying to compete with Nolan Smith, Luke Babbitt, and Ronnie Price.

I think Batum and George both have fair contracts. If I had to choose between the two, I would take George at 5 years/90M just because he is the better player. Also note that the contract is one year longer and will go into effect the same year Batum's goes into year three. Inflation and keeping a good player out of free agency a year longer make the George deal more appealing.

 

[Mediocre Man]

This makes the Blazers contract extension (4 years 46 million) with Batum look genius.



The Indiana Pacers and Paul George are finalizing a five-year, $90 million-plus maximum contract extension, according to league sources.

George is expected to sign the deal this week.

A member of the 2010 draft class, George has until Oct. 31 to agree upon an extension with the Pacers to avoid restricted free agency next summer.

George averaged 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game last season, his third in the NBA.

Paul George is light years better than Nic though, so the contract should be more.

I'd much rather have George at the max than Batum for 11 or whatever.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Paying George that much is only an issue if it hurts the Pacers down the road in keeping another good player. If the player they lose can be replaced....no big deal. If the player can not be replaced (i.e like the Hardin scenario) then it can hurt.

But it seems like a smart deal for Indiana to lock up their young star. They are in a similar position to Portland where they can't afford to allow their stars to be pursued by the more "glamorous" destination franchises.

George is a stud. If he gets injured then it will be a disaster, but I am not sure they had any other move. Trading a young star is seldom a smart move.

 

[julius]

Paul George is light years better than Nic though, so the contract should be more.

I'd much rather have George at the max than Batum for 11 or whatever.

Well, considering George was the main guy on the Pacers and Batum was at best the 3rd guy, I'm not sure if the 7 million is justified. He should get more, but not sure if the extra $$ is worth it. It could be worth it, no doubt.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Paying George that amount is worth it. He is a total stud and was the best player on Indy. I'd pay the extra for him over batum every day

 

[julius]

Well, considering George was the main guy on the Pacers and Batum was at best the 3rd guy, I'm not sure if the 7 million is justified. He should get more, but not sure if the extra $$ is worth it. It could be worth it, no doubt.

So it's clear, even though I already said this, I'm not saying Batum is as good as George.

 

[e_blazer]

Pretty much makes Granger trade bait. No way they're going to carry two SFs on max contracts.

 

[magnifier661]

That is way too much money for a player, even at Georges caliber. He is much better than Batum and has a higher ceiling; but that is superstar type money. If George is anything less than a superstar; the pacers blew their load to easily.

 

[magnifier661]

Pretty much makes Granger trade bait. No way they're going to carry two SFs on max contracts.

Granger is good as gone unless he can play SG.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Pretty much makes Granger trade bait. No way they're going to carry two SFs on max contracts.

I do not think Granger gets a max contract. Agree he is trade bait. Indy really needs a pg that can create.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

That is way too much money for a player, even at Georges caliber. He is much better than Batum and has a higher ceiling; but that is superstar type money. If George is anything less than a superstar; the pacers blew their load to easily.

There is a very short list of guys I trade George for.

 

[magnifier661]

There is a very short list of guys I trade George for.

He is absolutely a great player. I am not knocking that.... What I'm saying is players that carry teams will get that type of money on a team. George is absolutely a beast; but I don't see him pulling those 4th quarter dominance offensively, that you need from a wing. I know offense is only 50% of your game, but the superstar on your team must carry the offensive load during the 4th. That is what separates the superstar from the all-star, IMo.

 

[Reep]

That's a bargain for 1/2 of The Beatles!

So this is the other half?

 

[Reep]

Johnny Ringo is licking his chops...

Shucks, beat me to it.

 

[Draco]

Who would you rather have on our team; Batum on his $46mil contract or George on his $90mil contract?

I bet all NBA teams would take George by a landslide. I would do that trade in an instant and easily throw in Meyers Leonard or CJ McCollum.

 

[magnifier661]

Who would you rather have on our team; Batum on his $46mil contract or George on his $90mil contract?

I bet all NBA teams would take George by a landslide. I would do that trade in an instant and easily throw in Meyers Leonard or CJ McCollum.

How about 2 Batum's for 1 george?

Batum and Matthews don't even add up to the contract total of George. Its not saying that George isn't light years better than Batum; but George isn't at a level that warrants 2 Batum sized contracts.

 

[THE HCP]

I read on here how They would take George in a "landslide" or he's "lightyears" better than Nic. I will admit that I am biased, and I realize how half this forum hates Nic and claims he is so inconsistent. But you realize 90M is LeBron level money. I would really appreciate one of you guys to do a split side by side of last seasons stats between these 2 players so I can see the $50Million difference. Educate me.

 

[THE HCP]

And if it means anything, I like George's game.

 

[magnifier661]

I read on here how They would take George in a "landslide" or he's "lightyears" better than Nic. I will admit that I am biased, and I realize how half this forum hates Nic and claims he is so inconsistent. But you realize 90M is LeBron level money. I would really appreciate one of you guys to do a split side by side of last seasons stats between these 2 players so I can see the $50Million difference. Educate me.

I think the true difference between the players is George is all-star caliber; while Batum is super-role player caliber. So when I say "lightyears" I am only referring to his ability to take his game to the next level; while Batum plays over-seas and gets himself hurt during our seasons. He may not miss games that much, but I notice most the season, he is battling through injuries.

I think Batum has the ability to be a true star but needs some recovery and conditioning to get him through the long season healthy. If he can do that, then the comparison is much tighter, IMO.

And I do not agree that George warrants a 50 mil tax from Batum. I would rather have 2 Batum's than 1 George.

 

[Rhal]

Paul George is overrated. His D is good but inconsistent and he can disappears for long stretches of games, sounds a lot like what everyones been bitching about Batums game as well. He is this years George Hill(although a much better player), a player who played well in the regular season, had some amazing games that people seem to remember while forgetting his other games, then blew up in the playoffs. He is showing the same kind of career progression that Granger showed, but I'm not sure if he will become as good as Granger was.
I like PG but i don't think he is a franchise player and think he is suited more to a second/third banana on offense so he can spend so much more of his time trying to be the lock down defender everyone seems to think he can be. Great player to have at 10/y, overpaid as a max player at 16/y. Then again indiana is a small market and this is a superstar league. George is their best option to become a superstar and someone else would have offered George the max in FA and this contract is more about potential then what he has done so i'll say he is overpaid but has the chance to earn his contract, I just don't think he will.

 

[magnifier661]

Paul George is overrated. His D is good but inconsistent and he can disappears for long stretches of games, sounds a lot like what everyones been bitching about Batums game as well. He is this years George Hill(although a much better player), a player who played well in the regular season, had some amazing games that people seem to remember while forgetting his other games, then blew up in the playoffs. He is showing the same kind of career progression that Granger showed, but I'm not sure if he will become as good as Granger was.

I like PG but i don't think he is a franchise player and think he is suited more to a second/third banana on offense so he can spend so much more of his time trying to be the lock down defender everyone seems to think he can be. Great player to have at 10/y, overpaid as a max player at 16/y. Then again indiana is a small market and this is a superstar league. George is their best option to become a superstar and someone else would have offered George the max in FA and this contract is more about potential then what he has done so i'll say he is overpaid but has the chance to earn his contract, I just don't think he will.

I totally agree with this. 90 mil is a lot of money for a 3rd tier player. He is 2nd tier on the Pacers, but he should be a third tier for a league vote.

 

[Mediocre Man]

How is third team all nba not a franchise player? Aldridge is our franchise player, and he didn't make any team.

I am also lost a bit how he is 2nd or 3rd banana? he took the most shots on his team, and played the most minutes per game

 

[mook]

You look at the overall advanced stats and it's not like George is worlds better. It's not like George is a 21-25ppg scorer, which is kind of what you hope for in a $90m guy.

Indiana is clearly gambling on George's upside, which is substantial @ 22 years old. But every year he's in the league his FG% has declined (.453, .440, .419) as he handles the ball more and more and gets more minutes. He and Nic both take the same number of threes/game (6) and they are about the same efficiency (36%). Nic's the better passer, George is the better rebounder.

I think that there are so many ways these two guys compare should raise some red flags about George's deal. Batum is in no way a $90m guy. George will have to improve pretty significantly to be worth that.

There was no doubt in my mind Brandon Roy was a max contract guy by his third year. Click here and you can see why George's deal is a much riskier proposition. Even if you just compare rookie Roy to current George (when they were both 22) Roy still looks better because of the FG% and ability to draw fouls (things you look for in star swing men).

Run BJM makes a great point that in the current CBA Indiana has to do what it can to lock in its best players. This is the deal they had to make. It's a risky one, though.