Plausible destinations for our vets?

[SharpesTriumph]

Just remember that any of those 1-for-3 or 1-for-4 deals require the Blazers to cut players to make room for the incomings.

True, but IMO guys like Banton/Walker/Murray can all be cut or sent to a third team and I personally assign zero value to those scrubs.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

We are in the unique position to be able to send multiple rotation veterans to a playoff team who needs a boost.

Grant
RWIII
Reath
Thybulle
Simons
Ayton

Pick your meal.

I could see the Lakers, Mavs, and Kings all looking to make moves. Maybe Philly.

Problem is what asset do they get back? RW3 if healthy for more games might get a FRP, I'd think Grant might be able to get a FRP as well. All the others are worth 2nd round picks like the ones we sold for cash.

Reminds me of all the ideas posters had before the Clippers trade then we ended up with Bledsoe worthless contract and Didi.

This time I'd actually be ok with that irrelevant return as we've had years to shop these guys.

 

[Natebishop3]

Love it. Whatever gets us the best package of picks is what we should do

Lakers are in a unique position where they have matching salary AND picks AND young players. They're really an ideal partner.

Dallas sucks as a partner.

Kings have picks, they have SOME salary, and some young players. They'd be great. Not sure how motivated they are.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Probably not "plausible", but feels like a simple, best-case scenario.

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I've been mulling an Ayton-for-Simmons trade in my head for a while, the only objection being that I don't think Brooklyn actually wants to win (I know, adding Ayton is not the way to win, but we have to hope they don't believe that).

Interesting wrinkle: supposedly Giannis has made it no secret behind the scenes that he wants out and Brooklyn is one of his favored destinations. So... three way? Dame and Jerami reunited?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I've been mulling an Ayton-for-Simmons trade in my head for a while, the only objection being that I don't think Brooklyn actually wants to win (I know, adding Ayton is not the way to win, but we have to hope they don't believe that).

They've played much better than expected this season. The east is so horrific they might find themselves close to the playoffs.

Yeah I'd certainly do Ayton for Simmons as we'd get out of his max contract next year.

 

[Phatguysrule]

True, but IMO guys like Banton/Walker/Murray can all be cut or sent to a third team and I personally assign zero value to those scrubs.

I'd keep Banton.

 

[Natebishop3]

Problem is what asset do they get back? RW3 if healthy for more games might get a FRP, I'd think Grant might be able to get a FRP as well. All the others are worth 2nd round picks like the ones we sold for cash.

Reminds me of all the ideas posters had before the Clippers trade then we ended up with Bledsoe worthless contract and Didi.

This time I'd actually be ok with that irrelevant return as we've had years to shop these guys.

You can't use the Clippers trade as an example of anything. It was a master class in stupidity. Norman Powell was worth more than that. It was clear that Joe was given a directive to get us under the tax. There was no reason to make that trade a week before the deadline.

The CJ trade was a better example. We got a pick, we got Hart, and we got a trade exception.

 

[RR7]

Still think the Lakers make lot of sense as an Ant destination. I know Grant has been beaten to death going there, but feel Ant is the better fit. Great spot up shooter for kick outs from Lebron and AD. Gives you some of that secondary playmaker ability. Still relatively young so can look at him as a guy to help win now, and also bridge the gap as Lebron ages out.

 

[Natebishop3]

Still think the Lakers make lot of sense as an Ant destination. I know Grant has been beaten to death going there, but feel Ant is the better fit. Great spot up shooter for kick outs from Lebron and AD. Gives you some of that secondary playmaker ability. Still relatively young so can look at him as a guy to help win now, and also bridge the gap as Lebron ages out.
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I don't think Ant is worth that much, unfortunately.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Still think the Lakers make lot of sense as an Ant destination. I know Grant has been beaten to death going there, but feel Ant is the better fit. Great spot up shooter for kick outs from Lebron and AD. Gives you some of that secondary playmaker ability. Still relatively young so can look at him as a guy to help win now, and also bridge the gap as Lebron ages out.
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Is Ant better than Russell? I assume the Lakers value Russell more.

I'd think the Lakers trade for Ant would involve them pairing Ant with Russell.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Sending the Lakers Duop/Walker makes sense and perhaps they give us Knecht. I doubt they give us Knecht and a pick. Also a trade like this might be hard for the Lakers to do before the deadline as filling out their roster could push them to the 2nd arpon. I think they'll be ok going over the 2nd apron, but they would want that to be the final move done a few days after the trade deadline;

 

[RR7]

Is Ant better than Russell? I assume the Lakers value Russell more.

I'd think the Lakers trade for Ant would involve them pairing Ant with Russell.

Wasn't JJ just calling out Russell the other day, and benching him for lackadaisical performance?

Could definitely be totally wrong. I don't think they care at all about Russell, and see him as salary filler.

 

[RR7]

I think Houston is another team I could see looking to make a "consolidation" move of sorts. They have a lot of young guys to develop, a few good vets to mentor them, and are looking to be competitive. I think Eason should probably be starting over Smith at this point. They could be a random destination for Grant.

 

[Natebishop3]

Wasn't JJ just calling out Russell the other day, and benching him for lackadaisical performance?

Could definitely be totally wrong. I don't think they care at all about Russell, and see him as salary filler.

The big daddy trade!



Can't be done until December.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The big daddy trade!

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Can't be done until December.

Remove RW3, JHS, and Christie, and it can be done now, yeah?

 

[Phatguysrule]

The big daddy trade!

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Can't be done until December.

Remove RW3, JHS, and Christie, and it can be done now, yeah?

I'm down, either way.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

supposedly Giannis has made it no secret behind the scenes that he wants out and Brooklyn is one of his favored destinations. So... three way? Dame and Jerami reunited?

Obviously picks would be involved, mostly going from Brooklyn to Milwaukee, but maybe Brooklyn sends one to us?

 

[wizenheimer]

Is Ant better than Russell? I assume the Lakers value Russell more.

I'd think the Lakers trade for Ant would involve them pairing Ant with Russell.

I think Simons is probably a little better (not so far this season). Russell is more of a PG though and the Lakers might value that, a little

my hunch is that the Lakers probably wanted to keep Russell in a potential Grant trade to balance their rotation. If Simons is coming in for Russell, the balance isn't really altered. Also, since the Laker's are only a few K below the tax-line, Russell's salary might be needed in any substantial trade

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I didn't realize Russell was shooting 31% from 3p%, only scoring 12 ppg and has now been benched the last 3 games. Perhaps the Lakers would want Ant over him.

Yeah I'd try to do some trade like this, of course would want the best pick(s) possible but would need at least a first rounder especially since we'd be stuck with Vanderbilt for 4 years.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Obviously picks would be involved, mostly going from Brooklyn to Milwaukee, but maybe Brooklyn sends one to us?
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Nets are actually one of the few teams that has enough picks to go after Giannis - along with OKC. I'd think they'd need to play better for more of the season to be sure Giannis has enough to win with them. Bucks also would need to fail at winning with Giannis for longer as well to entertain trades - highly unlikely that would happen before the summer.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Remove RW3, JHS, and Christie, and it can be done now, yeah?

So you mean like this?



I'd suspect the issue for the Lakers is giving up both a FRP and Knecht, not sure they would go for that.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Wasn't JJ just calling out Russell the other day, and benching him for lackadaisical performance?

Could definitely be totally wrong. I don't think they care at all about Russell, and see him as salary filler.

Yeah that might be the case, was surprised to see him averaging 12ppg on 31% and benched the last 3 games.

 

[beast blazer]

Salary dump for players that have no future on the team. Nets have 4 1st rounds in 2025.

 

[Blazinaway]

So, do we think ANT may have requested a trade? would not surprise me

 

[SharpesTriumph]

So, do we think ANT may have requested a trade? would not surprise me

Wiz reported that someone posted that it happened and this person posted something else that was true once.

So I believe yes its a confirmed rumor that Ant has requested a trade.

 

[wizenheimer]

So, do we think ANT may have requested a trade? would not surprise me

that's the rumor. I don't know if it's true or not

 

[beast blazer]

Wiz reported that someone posted that it happened and this person posted something else that was true once.

So I believe yes its a confirmed rumor that Ant has requested a trade.

Fitting, that he was out last came with a "chest" injury, because he has no heart.

 

[bemac]

Fitting, that he was out last came with a "chest" injury, because he has no heart.

The man has reached the highest level of his profession as a starting player in the NBA. Pretty sure he has a heart. What is this desire with people to tear down others who have success? I get he doesn't really fit with the style of play, or his defense is lacking. All legit reasons to trade him. This bullshit about not having heart...Come on.

 

[B-Roy]

that's the rumor. I don't know if it's true or not

Huh, from where?

 

[wizenheimer]

Huh, from where?

a long time infrequent poster at RealGM who has shown he does have some inside info in the past. 3 or 4 months before Portland traded for Avdija hs posted that he heard Portland was being really aggressive in trying to land him. Might have been before the trade deadline. So, it at least implies he has somebody or somebodies whispering in his ear

all he said about Simons was that he had heard more trade rumors about Simons in the previous 24 hours than he had heard in months. And that a league executive said he heard a rumor Simons asked to be traded