Game Thread PLAYOFFS: ROUND 1, GAME 3: WARRIORS @ BLAZERS - 4/22/17, SATURDAY, 7:30 PM (PDT), KGW & ESPN

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B-Roy said:
McGee is literally +22 but our only center is sitting on the bench
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Yes, I guess one has to question when Stotts decided to play Nurkic; especially after how McGee killed us in the previous game. I guess he decided to start him to make sure we got off to a good start, get the crowd going. Maybe he should have switched it up at least for the second half.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Could you have coached us to a victory? What basic concept or moderately complex tactic could we have suddenly implemented that magically befuddles the best team in the league?
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I have no idea if I could have won.

I know when that defense is thrown out you swing the ball wide, then throw it down low. That defense then collapses on the post. The ball gets swung to the angle 3, then swung over to a corner for an open 3 or the angle 3 drives to the 3 attack zone at the corner ft line.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I have no idea if I could have won.

I know when that defense is thrown out you swing the ball wide, then throw it down low. That defense then collapses on the post. The ball gets swung to the angle 3, then swung over to a corner for an open 3 or the angle 3 drives to the 3 attack zone at the corner ft line.
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Unless you have no post players, or post defenders good enough that the defense can just stay on the perimeter... or both. I guess we go to Turner because he's our best post-up guy outside of Nurkic (who, if you didn't notice, couldn't really do any cool moves). But Green can take him in single coverage easy. So now what's the play? The defense isn't collapsing and Turner has no moves except to get capped by Dray.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Unless you have no post players, or post defenders good enough that the defense can just stay on the perimeter... or both. I guess we go to Turner because he's our best post-up guy outside of Nurkic (who, if you didn't notice, couldn't really do any cool moves). But Green can take him in single coverage easy. So now what's the play? The defense isn't collapsing and Turner has no moves except to get capped by Dray.
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Garbage pail Turner is a good post player, Lillard, CJ, Aminu....doesnt matter cause the defense is designed to collapse. Rewatch it. They collapsed every time because thats what the defense is designed to do
 
Mediocre Man said:
Garbage pail Turner is a good post player, Lillard, CJ, Aminu....doesnt matter cause the defense is designed to collapse. Rewatch it. They collapsed every time because thats what the defense is designed to do
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I'm not a coach like you, obviously, but judging by their record, their defense is pretty good, so would your plan work?
 
Best part of this series is this series your really showed us a lot about about what we have for players and coaches.

1. Dame, McCollum, Jusuf are definitely our foundation.
2. Turner is ok player that can run the 2nd unit at times. Although coaches decision to run the offense through him in 4th quarter was mind boggling.
3. Vonleh is a keeper, although I question whether he's a starter, would prefer he be a back up.
4. Chief is way to inconsistent, can't dribble but thinks he can, 3pt shot is ugly and is ok defender.
4. Harmless looked scared the whole series, Green was in his head
5. Meyers no comment wish he was better but he's simply not figuring it out
6. Coach got out coached by bench coach. Running offense through your 4 or 5th best offensive player absolutely nuts. All your card needed to be on the table in 4th if Nurk was healthy he should have been in last 3 minutes rebounding abosultely killed us in 4th qtr.

Desperate need of good veterans off the bench. A good PF or SF would make huge difference for us.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I have no idea if I could have won.

I know when that defense is thrown out you swing the ball wide, then throw it down low. That defense then collapses on the post. The ball gets swung to the angle 3, then swung over to a corner for an open 3 or the angle 3 drives to the 3 attack zone at the corner ft line.
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If only it were that simple. HAHAHA. So easy to be an armchair coach.

Seriously I watched the game. did you guys? What beat us? GSW incredibly elite passing in the second half. The gamer was fast passed, almost hectic on every missed shot but when they got the rebound they didn't hold it. Within seconds it was passed around three to four people and found the open person. The passed were some of the best passing i've seen in year for a stretch ion the fourth quarter. There isn't a team or a coach that can stop that. They just took it to another level. Period.
 
EGame said:
I won't disagree with that, but it is pretty to easy to play good defense on the Blazers. Ramp up the focus on Dame and CJ and make them kick it out to one of our non shooters who are wide open, which they were a lot. Defending us really isnt hard to do.
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Right, and then when Crabbe is in there with only one of Lillard or McCollum, they focus on Crabbe also.
 
Disappointing loss....got away from ball movement in the 4th and couldn't make a shot...great first half play though....12 qtrs...Blazers have won 5.5 of those...but no endgames...one more shot at a playoff win Monday....then bring on the off season!
 
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By the way...I think Stotts did an incredible job just winning 5.5 qtrs. out of 12 against a team with 5 allstars and a veteran bench....he didn't like the officiating at all at the end of the game last night but he's always above those bad calls....Stotts is a great coach no matter what his detractors say in my book
 
riverman said:
By the way...I think Stotts did an incredible job just winning 5.5 qtrs. out of 12 against a team with 5 allstars and a veteran bench....he didn't like the officiating at all at the end of the game last night but he's always above those bad calls....Stotts is a great coach no matter what his detractors say in my book
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Right? Its like people expect him to turn a turd sandwhich into a 5 course meal.
 
riverman said:
By the way...I think Stotts did an incredible job just winning 5.5 qtrs. out of 12 against a team with 5 allstars and a veteran bench....he didn't like the officiating at all at the end of the game last night but he's always above those bad calls....Stotts is a great coach no matter what his detractors say in my book
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@Jade Falcon and I were talking about Stotts during the game. He's not a fan and I think Stotts is pretty good. I can't think of one player who has done better after they left the Blazers and Stotts. He does good putting players in positions to take advantage of their strengths.

I thought for sure that Pops would take LMA's game to a different level but he is the same player for SA that he was for us. Pops, IMO, is the best coach in the league. Rolo, Wes, no one has suddenly gotten better after leaving the Blazers. Some could argue Batum but IMO he's just benefitted from being the 2nd option instead of the 3rd that he was here.
 
1eyejack said:
Best part of this series is this series your really showed us a lot about about what we have for players and coaches.

1. Dame, McCollum, Jusuf are definitely our foundation.
2. Turner is ok player that can run the 2nd unit at times. Although coaches decision to run the offense through him in 4th quarter was mind boggling.
3. Vonleh is a keeper, although I question whether he's a starter, would prefer he be a back up.
4. Chief is way to inconsistent, can't dribble but thinks he can, 3pt shot is ugly and is ok defender.
4. Harmless looked scared the whole series, Green was in his head
5. Meyers no comment wish he was better but he's simply not figuring it out
6. Coach got out coached by bench coach. Running offense through your 4 or 5th best offensive player absolutely nuts. All your card needed to be on the table in 4th if Nurk was healthy he should have been in last 3 minutes rebounding abosultely killed us in 4th qtr.

Desperate need of good veterans off the bench. A good PF or SF would make huge difference for us.
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While I don't agree with all of your conclusions, I do agree that this is why making the playoffs was important. It shows you what we've got when the season is on the line. And for the 2nd game this series, the Blazers played really well for the majority of it, then fell apart. Maybe that's youth and letting the pressure get to them, who knows, but it seems clear that the team should get some good veteran leadership next season.

At times it looked like they were shell-shocked even though the game was still within reach. Like things were moving too fast - losing their footing when they'd tried to cut, resorting to 1-on-5 hero ball out of desperation, fumbling the ball away countless times. In particular, Vonleh, who for the entire series has treated the ball like it's a squirming fish. I've lost count of how many times he's had the God-damn ball in his hands then fumbles it away, or lets it get easily knocked out of his hands.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I'm not a coach like you, obviously, but judging by their record, their defense is pretty good, so would your plan work?
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No idea? Would have had a better chance than iso dribble ball. If not, go high post back cuts. Takes doubling out of te picture because if kick outs.
 
noknobs said:
While I don't agree with all of your conclusions, I do agree that this is why making the playoffs was important. It shows you what we've got when the season is on the line. And for the 2nd game this series, the Blazers played really well for the majority of it, then fell apart. Maybe that's youth and letting the pressure get to them, who knows, but it seems clear that the team should get some good veteran leadership next season.

At times it looked like they were shell-shocked even though the game was still within reach. Like things were moving too fast - losing their footing when they'd tried to cut, resorting to 1-on-5 hero ball out of desperation, fumbling the ball away countless times. In particular, Vonleh, who for the entire series has treated the ball like it's a squirming fish. I've lost count of how many times he's had the God-damn ball in his hands then fumbles it away, or lets it get easily knocked out of his hands.
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I've been crying for vets for a long time. So, you can stop it. According to this forum, vets are not the problem. 1977 Blazers were the youngest team in the league and other stuff like this..
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@Jade Falcon and I were talking about Stotts during the game. He's not a fan and I think Stotts is pretty good. I can't think of one player who has done better after they left the Blazers and Stotts. He does good putting players in positions to take advantage of their strengths.

I thought for sure that Pops would take LMA's game to a different level but he is the same player for SA that he was for us. Pops, IMO, is the best coach in the league. Rolo, Wes, no one has suddenly gotten better after leaving the Blazers. Some could argue Batum but IMO he's just benefitted from being the 2nd option instead of the 3rd that he was here.
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LMA became the 2nd option on a team that moves the ball, so I wouldn't say he got worse.

Yes Stotts does a good job of empowering lesser players. That's about the only thing he does well in my opinion. He takes shitty players and makes them almost average.

I guess if he got average players, he might make them good, so you could pin it on Olshey. However, Stotts empowering goes too far with Aminu thinking he's some sort of Point Forward, and Dame chucking up bad shots.
 
Mediocre Man said:
No idea? Would have had a better chance than iso dribble ball. If not, go high post back cuts. Takes doubling out of te picture because if kick outs.
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Yeah, except GS hardly ever allows backcuts, and then we're stuck with a player in the highpost with no skills to do anything with the ball.

Therefore, they have to look for a guard, who gets trapped off the hand-off.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, except GS hardly ever allows backcuts, and then we're stuck with a player in the highpost with no skills to do anything with the ball.

Therefore, they have to look for a guard, who gets trapped off the hand-off.
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Ok
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, except GS hardly ever allows backcuts, and then we're stuck with a player in the highpost with no skills to do anything with the ball.

Therefore, they have to look for a guard, who gets trapped off the hand-off.
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The only way to counter their defense is with a "Perfect Pick And Roll", one where both the guy receiving the screen and the guy setting the screen are major offensive threats. You can't switch the guard onto the big screener, because he will take advantage. You can't run under the pick because the guy getting screened can hit the jumper. You can't double either player because the other is dangerous. But we need a 100% healthy and game shape Nurkic to make that happen. Next year.
 
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