Game Thread PLAYOFFS: ROUND 2, GAME 3: NUGGETS @ BLAZERS - MAY 3, 2019 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM , ESPN

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Well it got top billing on SC after it was over. Probably has more to do with how late game went, East Coast just don’t care
Sure it got top billing right after because the game was on ESPN. But if LeBron had been involved they would be pushing it every minute until the next game and even during the next game.
 
It was a great game and a great win, but the thing that bothered me was the overtimes largely boiled down to offensive possessions with no scheme to speak of--Portland was utterly dependent on Lillard, McCollum (and, at the end, Hood) hitting high-degree-of-difficulty shots (granted, Hood's last shot was a good one, but it came after a very difficult one from McCollum that missed and then a remarkable rebound and pass by McCollum). They hit enough of them, obviously, to win--but they kept almost losing because they had a ton of empty possessions where Lillard or McCollum just fired up crazy shots that missed. Usually after dribbling the ball into the floor for most of the possession and, at most, getting a screen or two before firing.

They needed more of an offensive plan. I realize everyone's tired, but that's the worst time to demand individual heroics over and over and over (as opposed to a single shot)--difficult shots become even more difficult with tired legs and arms. Denver got a number of easier baskets during the overtime and it wasn't because Portland's defense was poor.
 
Houston needs to do something. Both the teams in our series are gonna kill each other while GS cruises to an easy series win. Neither Denver nor us will have anything left for the next series
 
Not last night he wasn't.

Tiny sample + hindsight. If we knew in advance who is going to shoot hot or cold we would never lose. On average, taken over a large sample, when Aminu shoots he's more efficient than CJ so I'm optimistic when he does get his typical shot (3's and drives).
 
Tiny sample + hindsight. If we knew in advance who is going to shoot hot or cold we would never lose. On average, taken over a large sample, when Aminu shoots he's more efficient than CJ so I'm optimistic when he does get his typical shot (3's and drives).
This is the Playoffs. It's not a small sample size any longer. Bring up Aminu's numbers in the last three games? When you are talking about a seven game series 3 games is about 43% on the games that could be played. If the series goes less than 7 games it is even more.
 
This is the Playoffs. It's not a small sample size any longer. Bring up Aminu's numbers in the last three games? When you are talking about a seven game series 3 games is about 43% on the games that could be played. If the series goes less than 7 games it is even more.

Small sample. Aminu in the playoffs is more efficient than CJ in the playoffs.
 
Again- Not last night or even this series.

Last night or 3 games or even 10 games is a small sample. Players go 20 games shooting 25% from 3 and then go 20 games shooting 55% from three. That's variance. Making decisions about who should shoot based on tiny samples & variance is not smart.
 
Denver is not a beasketball town, it's a Broncos town. They didn't even sell the damn place out. It's just bandwagoners that bring it close. They did have a nice increase of attendance this year over the usual 10 grand they use to have for any game outside of GS, Chicago, Lakers, and any team LeBron was on. Use to attend the Blazers games when I lived there and there was hardly a soul in the upper deck endzones.
Were there a lot of Blazers fans in the games you attended?
 
Only thing I'll say about the elbow to Kanters shoulder is this.
I bet you the Nuggets players believed he flopped into Craig's facemask.
Therefore you had to figure they'd at least test his shoulder a couple times.
The fact that the refs didn't call anything I don't know if I agree or disagree.

I do think three times is bush league though.

Also I've never been boxed out, or boxed out people with my elbows first.
Maybe Jokic is fundamentally unsound.
I don't see him box out enough to be a fair judge of that.

The only legal arm contact on a box out is an arm-bar which is a straight forearm parallel with the chest. That is how I was taught.
 
Only thing I'll say about the elbow to Kanters shoulder is this.
I bet you the Nuggets players believed he flopped into Craig's facemask.
Therefore you had to figure they'd at least test his shoulder a couple times.
The fact that the refs didn't call anything I don't know if I agree or disagree.

I do think three times is bush league though.

Also I've never been boxed out, or boxed out people with my elbows first.
Maybe Jokic is fundamentally unsound.
I don't see him box out enough to be a fair judge of that.

That was not boxing out
 
Too bad Adam Silver blinked and didn't see it.

Going to the twitter page where Enes posted that the comments are splitt pretty evenly. On the one side people are calling it for what it was. Targeting, flagrant and uncalled for. The rest are calls to "man up" or "what a flop" or even better "basketball is a physical game...." I want to yell back at them, NO IT ISN'T!! This isn't the 80's or early 90's, the rules have changed and the game has changed. If that was Lebron who got hit like that Jokic would be facing a suspension right now.

Putting that aside I love what Enes is doing for us in these playoffs. He has earned my respect for sure but to the casual observer Enes has somewhat of a checkered past. He has been accused of targeting players or purposely trying to injure them when he played for other teams. This has a boy who cried wolf feel to it.
 
lol...now if you were given the importunity for some loving or to watch the game to completion which would you do? Cant do both though.

I've done both
 
I agree. I have been watching the NBA for.... gosh..... 30 years? I have never seen anyone box out like that.... ever.

Loading up and throwing your entire body into a guy's shoulder is not boxing out. That's called an offensive foul. Period.

A flagrant foul
 
It was a great game and a great win, but the thing that bothered me was the overtimes largely boiled down to offensive possessions with no scheme to speak of--Portland was utterly dependent on Lillard, McCollum (and, at the end, Hood) hitting high-degree-of-difficulty shots (granted, Hood's last shot was a good one, but it came after a very difficult one from McCollum that missed and then a remarkable rebound and pass by McCollum). They hit enough of them, obviously, to win--but they kept almost losing because they had a ton of empty possessions where Lillard or McCollum just fired up crazy shots that missed. Usually after dribbling the ball into the floor for most of the possession and, at most, getting a screen or two before firing.

They needed more of an offensive plan. I realize everyone's tired, but that's the worst time to demand individual heroics over and over and over (as opposed to a single shot)--difficult shots become even more difficult with tired legs and arms. Denver got a number of easier baskets during the overtime and it wasn't because Portland's defense was poor.

Agreed, it often seemed like we thought there would be extra points given for degree-of-difficulty.

barfo
 
Last night or 3 games or even 10 games is a small sample. Players go 20 games shooting 25% from 3 and then go 20 games shooting 55% from three. That's variance. Making decisions about who should shoot based on tiny samples & variance is not smart.
Seriously man what is your point here?
Are you really going to try and throw shade on the player that won them that game last night? Really?
I've been having this conversation with stat monkeys for years. The fact is Stats don't measure heart or desire to win and ability to perform when the pressure is on. CJ absolutely without question was the reason the Blazers win game three. If you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you? He even made the assist that got Hood the open shot to win the game.
What more does this guy have to do to get stat monkeys around this forum to back up?

Years ago it was Mathews. Statistically speaking we was not a good SG. Total three and D player. If even that because at times he didn't shoot the three well. But everyone seemed to agree when he went down that he was the "Heart and Soul" of the team.
Would you like me to go to Steve Blake?
How about Rod Strickland?
Joel Pryzbilla?
How About Brian Grant? How many times did we see Brian Grant will this team to a victory in the playoffs? His advanced stats are mediocre at best. Try to tell Blazer fans his stats weren't good.

You want to come at me with stats???? I say bring it! I will defeat the stat story every time.
 
Seriously man what is your point here?
Are you really going to try and throw shade on the player that won them that game last night? Really?
I've been having this conversation with stat monkeys for years. The fact is Stats don't measure heart or desire to win and ability to perform when the pressure is on. CJ absolutely without question was the reason the Blazers win game three. If you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you? He even made the assist that got Hood the open shot to win the game.
What more does this guy have to do to get stat monkeys around this forum to back up?

Years ago it was Mathews. Statistically speaking we was not a good SG. Total three and D player. If even that because at times he didn't shoot the three well. But everyone seemed to agree when he went down that he was the "Heart and Soul" of the team.
Would you like me to go to Steve Blake?
How about Rod Strickland?
Joel Pryzbilla?
How About Brian Grant? How many times did we see Brian Grant will this team to a victory in the playoffs? His advanced stats are mediocre at best. Try to tell Blazer fans his stats weren't good.

You want to come at me with stats???? I say bring it! I will defeat the stat story every time.

Rod Strickland was a horrible teammate and an asshole. He has no business being on that list.

Are you saying that CJ is the heart and soul of this team?
 
Rod Strickland was a horrible teammate and an asshole. He has no business being on that list.

Are you saying that CJ is the heart and soul of this team?
First question-Rod Strickland might have done some bad things but he was not a "Horrible Teammate"
If you don't like him on that list i can live with that. Point stands. He impacted a game much more than his stats would presume.

Second question....No. I referenced Wesley Mathews as being considered the heart and soul of the team.
 
It was a great game and a great win, but the thing that bothered me was the overtimes largely boiled down to offensive possessions with no scheme to speak of--Portland was utterly dependent on Lillard, McCollum (and, at the end, Hood) hitting high-degree-of-difficulty shots (granted, Hood's last shot was a good one, but it came after a very difficult one from McCollum that missed and then a remarkable rebound and pass by McCollum). They hit enough of them, obviously, to win--but they kept almost losing because they had a ton of empty possessions where Lillard or McCollum just fired up crazy shots that missed. Usually after dribbling the ball into the floor for most of the possession and, at most, getting a screen or two before firing.

They needed more of an offensive plan. I realize everyone's tired, but that's the worst time to demand individual heroics over and over and over (as opposed to a single shot)--difficult shots become even more difficult with tired legs and arms. Denver got a number of easier baskets during the overtime and it wasn't because Portland's defense was poor.
Don't you dare try to tell people that Terry's offense really isn't very good!
 
The thing I like is we’re winning with defense. We’re playing great team defense. We need to do a better job on the boards though.
I do agree that our defensive schemes in the POs (especially the OKC series) have been much better than usual. Good job on that end, Terry.
 
I was just reading over on one of the Nuggets forum. I think the funniest thing I read was them complaining about Doris Burke being so one sided in favor of the Blazers. I don't troll other sites so I didn't respond, but I thought what a homer. Also they are convinced that it was a badly one sided officiated game and that Kanter is faking the shoulder injury.
 

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