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BonesJones said:
When was the last time I suggested a 4-team trade? I don't think I've suggested one all season. So it seems like you're just making up stuff to talk bitch about. Kinda weird for your age to do that over the internet towards someone a third your age, but you do you man.

If I did come up with a 4-team trade, it was only for the fun of it.

Relax.
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Listen kid, where in my post did i say it was to you? It was said in general, but obviously your guilt thought it about you. One thing this forum can always count on, you talking crap and you then playing the victim. Your act is very obvious.
 
CupWizier said:
Listen kid, where in my post did i say it was to you? It was said in general, but obviously your guilt thought it about you. One thing this forum can always count on, you talking crap and you then playing the victim. Your act is very obvious.
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Listen gramps, the only one with an act here is you.
 
If dipping the tax isn’t actually the objective, or if they’re unable to accomplish it, there are a few dudes that fit into the Bazemore TPE I’d take. Keef and Ed Davis for example.
 
Scalma said:
If dipping the tax isn’t actually the objective, or if they’re unable to accomplish it, there are a few dudes that fit into the Bazemore TPE I’d take. Keef and Ed Davis for example.
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Also, if they traded Whiteside and a wing like Porter was coming to Portland then Aaron Baynes would be a fantastic filler center until the bigs were healthy and he'd come with Full Bird Rights this off season to keep him as a backup.
 
On our podcast today @BonesJones and I talked with a couple Dallas fans and both of them said they would do this trade:

Dallas gets Hassan Whiteside and Caleb Swanigan (using their TPE) or Mario Hezonja (maybe even both?)

Portland gets Courtney Lee, Delon Wright, and a 2020 2nd round pick via GS (currently 31st)

This trade gets Portland completely out of the tax this year while Dallas is still comfortably under the tax. I'm guessing Dallas would possibly even throw in another future 2nd to sweeten the deal and the Blazers could replenish one of their 2nds they gave up in the Ariza trade.

The best part is even if you don't like this particular haul for Whiteside the door would still be open for other moves. Delon Wright would have some trade value either now or in the future. Lee's expiring is smaller to match other contracts plus we'd have 1sts and two 2020 2nds to attach to it.

Wright, 1st, and a 2nd for Covington?

Wright and a 2nd for Rose?

I don't know but there'd be a lot of ways to be creative. They'd have a few trade exceptions for a year too between the one generated in this trade and the Ariza trade.
 
For all the talk about Philly having to break up Simmons & Embiid, would you offer CJ, Nurkic and picks for Embiid? I feel like that is even a good deal for Philadelphia - they get a replacement center who may fit better with Simmons as he doesn't need the ball as much, they get an elite shooter and perhaps a decent pick this year to add talent.
 
hoopsjock said:
On our podcast today @BonesJones and I talked with a couple Dallas fans and both of them said they would do this trade:

Dallas gets Hassan Whiteside and Caleb Swanigan (using their TPE) or Mario Hezonja (maybe even both?)

Portland gets Courtney Lee, Delon Wright, and a 2020 2nd round pick via GS (currently 31st)

This trade gets Portland completely out of the tax this year while Dallas is still comfortably under the tax. I'm guessing Dallas would possibly even throw in another future 2nd to sweeten the deal and the Blazers could replenish one of their 2nds they gave up in the Ariza trade.

The best part is even if you don't like this particular haul for Whiteside the door would still be open for other moves. Delon Wright would have some trade value either now or in the future. Lee's expiring is smaller to match other contracts plus we'd have 1sts and two 2020 2nds to attach to it.

Wright, 1st, and a 2nd for Covington?

Wright and a 2nd for Rose?

I don't know but there'd be a lot of ways to be creative. They'd have a few trade exceptions for a year too between the one generated in this trade and the Ariza trade.
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Delon Wright is very good and fits that Dallas team perfectly. No reason for them to trade him.
 
hoopsjock said:
On our podcast today @BonesJones and I talked with a couple Dallas fans and both of them said they would do this trade:

Dallas gets Hassan Whiteside and Caleb Swanigan (using their TPE) or Mario Hezonja (maybe even both?)

Portland gets Courtney Lee, Delon Wright, and a 2020 2nd round pick via GS (currently 31st)

This trade gets Portland completely out of the tax this year while Dallas is still comfortably under the tax. I'm guessing Dallas would possibly even throw in another future 2nd to sweeten the deal and the Blazers could replenish one of their 2nds they gave up in the Ariza trade.

The best part is even if you don't like this particular haul for Whiteside the door would still be open for other moves. Delon Wright would have some trade value either now or in the future. Lee's expiring is smaller to match other contracts plus we'd have 1sts and two 2020 2nds to attach to it.

Wright, 1st, and a 2nd for Covington?

Wright and a 2nd for Rose?

I don't know but there'd be a lot of ways to be creative. They'd have a few trade exceptions for a year too between the one generated in this trade and the Ariza trade.
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Or you keep Wright & look for CJ trades that make sense
 
Scalma said:
Do you think paying a guy playing less than 20 minutes a night $9M is good business?
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It's fine I guess. They have a big roster and not everyone can get good minutes. 20 isn't that little and he's important to them.
 
I like the idea of Dallas as a trade partner, but the theoretical issue I see is the blazers will also need to find a center to replace Whiteside, and it’ll be pretty difficult to find one while also staying under the tax. And I only like Dallas as a trade partner if they’re trying to dip the tax, because they can do better than Wright if they’re not.
 
Sarni said:
It's fine I guess. They have a big roster and not everyone can get good minutes. 20 isn't that little and he's important to them.
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He’s so important he hasn’t played more than 15 minutes the last three games. They need a big a lot more than they need Wright.
 
Scalma said:
I like the idea of Dallas as a trade partner, but the theoretical issue I see is the blazers will also need to find a center to replace Whiteside, and it’ll be pretty difficult to find one while also staying under the tax. And I only like Dallas as a trade partner if they’re trying to dip the tax, because they can do better than Wright if they’re not.
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Boban....
 
Scalma said:
He’s so important he hasn’t played more than 15 minutes the last three games. They need a big a lot more than they need Wright.
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Exactly, you have to give something up for a big. It sounds like they value Hardaway and Curry over Wright.

Scalma said:
I like the idea of Dallas as a trade partner, but the theoretical issue I see is the blazers will also need to find a center to replace Whiteside, and it’ll be pretty difficult to find one while also staying under the tax. And I only like Dallas as a trade partner if they’re trying to dip the tax, because they can do better than Wright if they’re not.
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That's why they could get creative with secondary moves. Use the DPE to get Willie Hernangomez (or whatever center is available for cheap) or attach picks with Hezonja and problem solved. If they're still over trade Lee for someone making around $10 million or for someone like Felicio who still has another year left and Chicago might attach future 2nd(s) to dump or another player like Valentine or maybe they'd agree to a 1st round pick swap. Then the Blazers could make a playoff push while still getting a lottery pick.

There are lots of options here.
 
tester551 said:
Or you keep Wright & look for CJ trades that make sense
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I don't like Wright playing off the ball so I wouldn't want to move forward with him as the SG. Either he runs the bench unit or we trade him somewhere to be a Terry Rozier type.
 
hoopsjock said:
That's why they could get creative with secondary moves. Use the DPE to get Willie Hernangomez (or whatever center is available for cheap) or attach picks with Hezonja and problem solved. If they're still over trade Lee for someone making around $10 million or for someone like Felicio who still has another year left and Chicago might attach future 2nd(s) to dump or another player like Valentine or maybe they'd agree to a 1st round pick swap. Then the Blazers could make a playoff push while still getting a lottery pick.

There are lots of options here.
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Seems...optimistic. And that center would have to be legitimately good considering how much Portland relies on them defensively. For example, Hernangomez wouldn’t be a fit imo. And since I don’t believe dipping the tax automatically equals throwing in the towel, I’d hope they had a better plan. We’ll see.
 
Btw it’s funny how windshit said the mavs were looking for a big that could give em 15 points and then a day later they get connected to....Joakim Noah. It’s almost like these media dudes don’t know what they’re talking about.

But I did find this from a mavs reporter

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Who they target just depends on how they view Porzingis imo. If they want him as their primary rim protector, then they’ll target more of a PF, but if they don’t, then a guy like Whiteside makes sense. Personally I think they should target an actual center instead of trying to replicate Powell. They already had rim protection/rebounding issues before his injury and Porzingis isn’t exactly mr durable either.
 
Whiteside for Thad Young and Satoransky.

Gets us really close to jumping out of the tax outright this summer while giving us a decent starting forward in Young and a really tall backup PG I like in Satoransky. Sato is a bit overpaid but I liked his game when he was in WAS. This saves CHI a ton of long term $.
 
tester551 said:
I might consider Winslow for Ariza. Outside of that, I'm not sure there's a deal to be made with Miami.
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That would be sick. I love Winslow's new game that he showed last year as a primary ball handler, but he seems super injury prone.

A risk worth taking I think.
 
Scalma said:
Seems...optimistic. And that center would have to be legitimately good considering how much Portland relies on them defensively. For example, Hernangomez wouldn’t be a fit imo. And since I don’t believe dipping the tax automatically equals throwing in the towel, I’d hope they had a better plan. We’ll see.
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Well, Lee and Wright to Minnesota for Dieng works too. The Blazers would possibly create a $12 million trade exception and still pick up that 2nd via GS. Although maybe Dallas would like Dieng instead of Whiteside, in which case we'd be out of luck. The Blazers would be over $6 million under the tax so they could then revisit your prior suggestion of adding Markieff or Saric using our 2nd round pick.

So basically we'd trade Whiteside and Swanigan/Hezonja for Dieng and Morris/Saric plus be under the tax by a couple million.
 
illmatic99 said:
That would be sick. I love Winslow's new game that he showed last year as a primary ball handler, but he seems super injury prone.

A risk worth taking I think.
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Winslow sucks. Even his two "good" years his highest ever TS% was 51%. I'd rather have Aminu, Harkless, or Turner, lol.
 
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