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Do any of you want to take a shot on Wiggins?

That contract is nuts, but I think i'd like him more than someone like Blake or Love, and we could ask Minny to throw in some assets to take him on like Culver or their pick with protections, etc.
 
illmatic99 said:
Do any of you want to take a shot on Wiggins?

That contract is nuts, but I think i'd like him more than someone like Blake or Love, and we could ask Minny to throw in some assets to take him on like Culver or their pick with protections, etc.
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No, thanks.
 
illmatic99 said:
Do any of you want to take a shot on Wiggins?

That contract is nuts, but I think i'd like him more than someone like Blake or Love, and we could ask Minny to throw in some assets to take him on like Culver or their pick with protections, etc.
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And why should they do that? They aren't in the luxury tax. They aren't a FA destination. Wiggins is a bad contract, but it's not like an unplayable contract. He's still a starter level player, he just shouldn't be getting $30M a year.

If they had moves to reshape the team after the deal, sure, but dumping assets just to get rid of a perceived bad contract never makes sense to me.
 
illmatic99 said:
Whiteside for Thad Young and Satoransky.

Gets us really close to jumping out of the tax outright this summer while giving us a decent starting forward in Young and a really tall backup PG I like in Satoransky. Sato is a bit overpaid but I liked his game when he was in WAS. This saves CHI a ton of long term $.
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Sato is noticably better than Young and makes less. Sato would be a phenominal pickup.
 
Scalma said:
If Whiteside stays Olshey better add some future pieces using one of his exceptions. Maybe that was the plan along. Dump money to add money.
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if that happens (Whiteside not traded), Blazers would have the full-MLE and that 7M TPE. Also, if they were confident about staying under the apron, they could also use the 3.7M BAE (they'd be hard-capped anyway if they use their full-MLE)

one question on the horizon is if the Blazers want to bring Melo back, and if so, for how much. He might eat up a big chunk if that MLE. He also might not want to come back if other teams are interested.
 
To Kings: Whiteside

To Portland: Covington, Dedmond, 2020 2nd via Sac

To Minnesota: Bogdanovic, Skal, 2020 first via Portland

Gets Portland less than a million from dipping the tax. Shouldn’t be too hard to dump Hezonja or Biggie. Could even attach Hezonja to the trade and send him to the Kings.

Dame
CJ
Ariza
Covington
Nurkic

Melo off the bench.
 
Scalma said:
To Kings: Whiteside

To Portland: Covington, Dedmond, 2020 2nd via Sac

To Minnesota: Bogdanovic, Skal, 2020 first via Portland

Gets Portland less than a million from dipping the tax. Shouldn’t be too hard to dump Hezonja or Biggie. Could even attach Hezonja to the trade and send him to the Kings.

Dame
CJ
Ariza
Covington
Nurkic

Melo off the bench.
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Not bad! I doubt we'd get a 2nd and Covington in that deal so Sacramento would probably keep it or it would go to Minnesota but I like it overall. I wonder how Minnesota would feel about both players they are getting being restricted free agents. They'd be sooooo bad defensively too.
 
hoopsjock said:
Not bad! I doubt we'd get a 2nd and Covington in that deal so Sacramento would probably keep it or it would go to Minnesota but I like it overall. I wonder how Minnesota would feel about both players they are getting being restricted free agents. They'd be sooooo bad defensively too.
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Idk but Olshey needs to hurry up before the trade machine tab leaps the porn one.
 
Quick today
https://t.co/56qFVqL7Px?amp=1

On if Jody has told Olshey to dodge the tax

No. Allen knew what she was getting into when she signed off on the Whiteside trade this summer, which pushed the payroll to the highest in the league (after the Kings trade, the Blazers no longer hold that distinction).

As stated above, if they can get out of the tax, they will do it, but there is no edict. The front office is mindful of the repeater-tax penalties that loom after next season, when the fat extensions for Lillard and CJ McCollum kick in, but Allen has consistently shown she is committed to the Blazers and willing to pay the tax. Of course, eventually, that financial commitment will have to result in victories, but she understands that sometimes, seasons are derailed by injuries.
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He also said he’s been told Portland will not consider trading their pick unless it’s for a top piece. They want to keep their assets, and they value the draft.
 
Scalma said:
Quick today
https://t.co/56qFVqL7Px?amp=1

On if Jody has told Olshey to dodge the tax

No. Allen knew what she was getting into when she signed off on the Whiteside trade this summer, which pushed the payroll to the highest in the league (after the Kings trade, the Blazers no longer hold that distinction).

As stated above, if they can get out of the tax, they will do it, but there is no edict. The front office is mindful of the repeater-tax penalties that loom after next season, when the fat extensions for Lillard and CJ McCollum kick in, but Allen has consistently shown she is committed to the Blazers and willing to pay the tax. Of course, eventually, that financial commitment will have to result in victories, but she understands that sometimes, seasons are derailed by injuries.
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He also said he’s been told Portland will not consider trading their pick unless it’s for a top piece. They want to keep their assets, and they value the draft.
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Thanks for posting!
 
If dipping the tax isn’t a priority then I hope Covington is a target as I think Portland would have an advantage by being able/willing to take on Dieng.
 
Okay I am confused the couple sites I checked shows Patton as being on OKC? How is Dallas waiving him?
 
lamlor said:
Worth a look?

As a result of the trade, Dallas will waive Justin Patton.
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Sure. Within a few days posters will complain about why he isn't playing and then after a week he will be our next all star. It seems to be what this forum does with end of the bench players. :evilfire:
 
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Another target: Hayward. Boston reached out on Drummond and evidently backed off after hearing the asking price, presumably a first. Makes sense since he could easily leave in the summer.

Hayward would’ve almost assuredly been in that deal. How about Whiteside and Hezonja for Hayward and Poirier

If Allen is truly not as bothered by paying the tax, may as well.
 
So the Mavs got WCS for
Scalma said:
Another target: Hayward. Boston reached out on Drummond and evidently backed off after hearing the asking price, presumably a first. Makes sense since he could easily leave in the summer.

Hayward would’ve almost assuredly been in that deal. How about Whiteside and Hezonja for Hayward and Poirier

If Allen is truly not as bothered by paying the tax, may as well.
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Make it Hayward and Tacko and you got a deal!
 
Scalma said:
Another target: Hayward. Boston reached out on Drummond and evidently backed off after hearing the asking price, presumably a first. Makes sense since he could easily leave in the summer.

Hayward would’ve almost assuredly been in that deal. How about Whiteside and Hezonja for Hayward and Poirier

If Allen is truly not as bothered by paying the tax, may as well.
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I know the gist of what Quck said, and generally, I'm not buying it at all....unless of course he actually interviewed Jody Allen and she told him what she's thinking
 
wizenheimer said:
I know the gist of what Quck said, and generally, I'm not buying it at all....unless of course he actually interviewed Jody Allen and she told him what she's thinking
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We’ll find out in two weeks.
 
Scalma said:
We’ll find out in two weeks.
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don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Whiteside won't be traded. I just think that Quick is too casual in his assumption that luxury tax isn't a major part of JA's calculations right now.

my hunch is if Whiteside is traded, the returning contract(s) won't add anywhere close to Whiteside's salary next season. I mentioned to Hoopjock, a couple of times, I anticipated one returning contract in exchange for either Bazemore or Whiteside to be in the 8-13M range range next year, and that's exactly what Ariza's is. That trade preserves all kinds of options for Portland after the season and next year. They can guarantee his salary, preserving the trade ballast it represents, sign a full MLE player, AND still use the 7M TPE and remain under the tax line. Adding more salary in a trade for Whiteside would mean that they'd have a lot of trouble signing a MLE player and using the TPE without going well over the tax line....unless they waived Ariza before July

it's possible JA has told Olshey it's do or die this trade deadline...that she'll accept paying tax next season in one final hurrah for the Dame/CJ team, but that's the last tax season....no repeater tax the following 2 seasons
 
Here’s what quick said re Whiteside



Do you think Hassan (Whiteside) will end up getting traded to get under the tax?

Would the Blazers like to get under the tax? Yes.
Is Olshey consumed with, or ordered to do so? No.

Will Olshey move Whiteside? If it nets a player who fits into the Blazers’ future, yes. But many of the players who would fit the Blazers’ needs and make the type of money that would make a Whiteside deal work are either hurt (Otto Porter Jr., Blake Griffin), entering the twilight of his career (LaMarcus Aldridge), or have undesirable contracts (Kevin Love, Thaddeus Young).

So in other words, I don’t believe Olshey is robo-calling each team trying to unload Whiteside. But he will certainly entertain offers. I would put Whiteside’s chances of staying in Portland at 50/50 right now.
 
Scalma said:
Here’s what quick said re Whiteside



Do you think Hassan (Whiteside) will end up getting traded to get under the tax?

Would the Blazers like to get under the tax? Yes.
Is Olshey consumed with, or ordered to do so? No.

Will Olshey move Whiteside? If it nets a player who fits into the Blazers’ future, yes. But many of the players who would fit the Blazers’ needs and make the type of money that would make a Whiteside deal work are either hurt (Otto Porter Jr., Blake Griffin), entering the twilight of his career (LaMarcus Aldridge), or have undesirable contracts (Kevin Love, Thaddeus Young).

So in other words, I don’t believe Olshey is robo-calling each team trying to unload Whiteside. But he will certainly entertain offers. I would put Whiteside’s chances of staying in Portland at 50/50 right now.
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Olshey is just waiting for the Cavs to give a little more or drop the asking price on Love.
 
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