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Neil O. Shyster said:
Trade Whiteside for Blake Griffin... tank the rest of this season... come back next year with a lineup of Dame/CJ/Ariza/Blake/Nurk plus a lottery pick
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Yeah, no thanks. Griffin had knee surgery at the end of last season and just had another surgery this month. He still has two more years on his contract at $34 M per year. No way should the Blazers be looking to trade for him.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Cut a lil salary, open up more playing time to young guys. Redick out means Hart, Alexander-Walker get more run, Favors and Whiteside are basically a wash, though Whiteside is a more modern NBA center, Hayes could learn from his timing as they both are shot blockers.

The pelicans aren’t exactly fighting for the playoffs either.
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This is the type of trade I could see happening.
Favors and Redick immediately help Portland for a run, imo.
 
Blake Griffin seems to be on the same career path as Chandler Parsons, he's just arriving a bit later. The idea of BG is a light year better than the reality
 
e_blazer said:
Yeah, no thanks. Griffin had knee surgery at the end of last season and just had another surgery this month. He still has two more years on his contract at $34 M per year. No way should the Blazers be looking to trade for him.
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That’s the problem with most of the “major” theoretical targets..they all have issues. Porter hasn’t been healthy in two years, Love isn’t durable and is owed a billion dollars. The one that makes the most sense is Aldridge, but idk about the Spurs willingness to go into a rebuild while Pop is still around.

I think the best strategy would be to target complimentary players, Covington being the prime one.
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
Trade Whiteside for Blake Griffin... tank the rest of this season... come back next year with a lineup of Dame/CJ/Ariza/Blake/Nurk plus a lottery pick
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And not trade CJ?! You aren't following your typical narrative, bruh.

Glad you aren't the GM though, because that is a terrible idea.
 
Scalma said:
That’s the problem with most of the “major” theoretical targets..they all have issues. Porter hasn’t been healthy in two years, Love isn’t durable and is owed a billion dollars. The one that makes the most sense is Aldridge, but idk about the Spurs willingness to go into a rebuild while Pop is still around.

I think the best strategy would be to target complimentary players, Covington being the prime one.
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Two moves that would make the most sense. A deal with Minnie for Covington using Ariza and filler. Another move would be to see if we can get GS to let Burke go for the Hood DPE and some filler. This way it helps for today as well as gets us a 3/4 for the future as well without breaking the bank.
 
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Hoopguru said:
This is the type of trade I could see happening.
Favors and Redick immediately help Portland for a run, imo.
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I don't see any chance really for this. Pelicans are rumoured to even take Jrue off the market in order to make a run for the playoffs, they won't change that for a 2nd round pick. If later they lose any chance and want to play the young guys they can just play the young guys, no need to do that yet just for some shitty compensation.
Btw with Favors on the court they have been really really good, the problem is he has had many health issues this year, but i think they want him for the future as well. He is still 28.
 
BigGameDamian said:
If we keep Whiteside I hope we don't make the playoffs and Neil gets canned!
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If we keep Whiteside the only logical explanation is that they are concerned about avoiding cap issues going forward. If that is the case then it was likely that he was not allowed to trade Whiteside.
 
Scalma said:
That’s the problem with most of the “major” theoretical targets..they all have issues. Porter hasn’t been healthy in two years, Love isn’t durable and is owed a billion dollars. The one that makes the most sense is Aldridge, but idk about the Spurs willingness to go into a rebuild while Pop is still around.

I think the best strategy would be to target complimentary players, Covington being the prime one.
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When trading for players with "issues", it's a good thing IF they end up panning out. Why?

It simply takes a lot less to go out and get that player. It'd take less to go out and get Otto Porter than if he'd been healthy all along. So if we go get him and then he ends up being healthy for us, the reward is the same and we got him at a discount.

At some point, Portland will likely have to take a risk on someone, I just don't think the reward from someone like Love is enough for us to lock ourselves into that roster, because that's what his contract would do. At this point, Griffin is probably too risky as well, but if Detroit simply wanted off his contract and we traded Whiteside for him then Griffin got healthy and regained form (big IF)? Then that provides the most reward possible.

That's the thing though, I don't really like the reward for most players out there right now, which is why I want to somehow increase our flexibility going into the off-season and next year, so that we can push off that decision and retain enough assets to pounce when the time is right.

It's also why Porter is my #1 target. Perfect fit, likely available at a discount, and if he's still hurt then he's a $27M expiring this off-season and next year, so he'd help our flexibility regardless (therefore, he's a no risk, decent reward option).

I also think Porter could be better for us than RoCo. He's not quite the defender RoCo is but Porter is still a good one, and he provides much more on the offensive end (3pt shooting, better playmaking and ball handling for a forward), and he can probably be had for less.

RoCo is definitely option #2, but I think Minnesota is asking for too much and won't settle for anything less than their current asking price.
 
Whiteside might not have any takers especially with a playoff team. Other teams not going give a good core player to land Whiteside it's just not going to happen. If team does they got to get close his salary to trade for him and how many players or draft picks they going to give us for him. If makes another trade it will a small one and my filling it just might be Trent or Mario. I hoping it's not Trent.
 
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I’d honestly be pretty loose with the protections in a theoretical Covington trade. Something like top 10 protected. I wouldn’t care about losing the 12th pick in this years draft. Covington is a perfect fit. Shit take on Dieng too. We could use his expiring anyway.
 
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James lamphear said:
Whiteside might not have any takers especially with a playoff team. Other teams not going give a good core player to land Whiteside it's just not going to happen. If team does they got to get close his salary to trade for him and how many players or draft picks they going to give us for him. If makes another trade it will a small one and my filling it just might be Trent or Mario. I hoping it's not Trent.
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Yes, Blazers would definitely have to give up some valuable asset along with Whiteside to get back a good core player. I don't think anyone would argue with that or is expecting different.
 
Scalma said:
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I’d honestly be pretty loose with the protections in a theoretical Covington trade. Something like top 10 protected. I wouldn’t care about losing the 12th pick in this years draft. Covington is a perfect fit. Shit take on Dieng too. We could use his expiring anyway.
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who suggested this? I feel like Minnys asking price is a lot more than a first
 
B-Roy said:
who suggested this? I feel like Minnys asking price is a lot more than a first
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Kevin Pelton. I’d be surprised if they got anything more. He’s a complimentary player, not a star.
 
Scalma said:
Kevin Pelton. I’d be surprised if they got anything more. He’s a complimentary player, not a star.
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Lotsa demand for him and his contract, tho. I don't wanna give up much more than what you suggested for him. If you rank our tradeable assets, that pick is prolly #1 on the list.
 
i suspect he will be part of a package going out to golden state for d'angelo russell. not sure our expiring will hold the same value as minny was rumored to be targeting him in free agency.
 
What's a trade you would like to see?

Pelton: The Portland Trail Blazers sending this year's first-round pick (with protection in case they miss the playoffs and win a top-four spot in the lottery) to Minnesota for Covington. The Timberwolves are too far from competing right now for Covington's complementary skill set to help them, but his game and contract ($36 million over this season and the next two) would fit perfectly in Portland next to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28585871/nba-trade-deadline-predictions-top-teams-players-watch
 
I sure like the idea of Covington, and his contract, a lot more than the idea of Porter and his contract

I just don't think the Blazers have the assets to get him unless they ratchet down the protection on that 1st round pick to a far too risky a level. I'd hate it if Portland gave up an 11th pick for Covington because Covington isn't going to significantly change the trajectory of the team
 
wizenheimer said:
I sure like the idea of Covington, and his contract, a lot more than the idea of Porter and his contract

I just don't think the Blazers have the assets to get him unless they ratchet down the protection on that 1st round pick to a far too risky a level. I'd hate it if Portland gave up an 11th pick for Covington because Covington isn't going to significantly change the trajectory of the team
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I think Portland’s best chance to land him is if they took on Dieng.
 
wizenheimer said:
I sure like the idea of Covington, and his contract, a lot more than the idea of Porter and his contract

I just don't think the Blazers have the assets to get him unless they ratchet down the protection on that 1st round pick to a far too risky a level. I'd hate it if Portland gave up an 11th pick for Covington because Covington isn't going to significantly change the trajectory of the team
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I think we are placing way too much value on the pick, we have Trent, Simons, Little, Zach, and Skal... that’s a TON of youth

We can afford to trade a first for a premier 3&D player on a friendly contract.
 
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GhostOfPGA said:
I think we are placing way too much value on the pick, we have Trent, Simons, Little, Zach, and Skal... that’s a TON of youth

We can afford to trade a first for a premier 3&D player on a friendly contract.
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well I said the 11th pick, so in the last decade these guys were on the board at the 11th pick:

Larry Sanders, Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Hassan Whiteside

Klay Thompson, Alec Burks, Kawhi Leonard, Nikola Vučević, Tobias Harris, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Mirotić, Jimmy Butler, Bojan Bogdanović

Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton

Steven Adams, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Tim Hardaway. Rudy Gobert

Dario Šarić, Zach LaVine, Jusuf Nurkić, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanović, Joe Harris, Jerami Grant ,Nikola Jokić, Jordan Clarkson

Myles Turner, Devin Booker, Kelly Oubre, Bobby Portis, Kevon Looney, Montrezl Harrell, Richaun Holmes, Josh Richardson

Domantas Sabonis, Malik Beasley, Caris LeVert, Pascal Siakam, Dejounte Murray, Malcolm Brogdon

Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, John Collins, Jarrett Allen, OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Miles Bridges, Kevin Huerter, Landry Shamet, Devonte' Graham


I think people are a little too dismissive of the value of that 1st round pick, not only in potential talent, but is the value of a rookie contract. I'm seeing 34 or 35 players in those names that are currently better than any of the Blazer youth, and several of those guys are either elite or all-star level, which is better than Covington. Both Zach and Trent will be RFA and getting extensions after next season, so there's a factor to consider as well. And, any rookie drafted in May will not be due for an extension till after CJ's contract expires...that's important

Ariza + a lottery protected first...OK. But no to the idea of Dieng and adding 27M in salary next season and a 3rd year of luxury tax
 
Snellings: The Timberwolves need to make moves. They have too much talent to have the second-worst record in the West, but their team fit is lacking. Unlike other rebuilding teams, they have a franchise-caliber centerpiece to build around who is entering his prime seasons. Karl-Anthony Towns ranks fourth in the NBA in offensive RPM in his fifth season and is just starting a max contract extension. The Timberwolves don't have a history as a prime free-agent destination, so they can't afford for this losing culture to continue. The team needs a perimeter offensive engine who can create shots for himself and his teammates, which would free Towns to focus more on defense, where he has taken a step back this season.
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Seems to me that the Blazers have a guy on their roster who would fill that "perimeter offensive engine" slot nicely. CJ & Whiteside for Wiggins, Covington & Culver. Draft picks as necessary. Added bonus: Blazers end up under the Luxury Tax threshold.

I call this deal the @Neil O. Shyster Cream Trade.
 
Just realized that today is the day CJ's trade restriction expires. I mean, we all know he's not going anywhere, but now trade proposals including him are technically possible.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Just realized that today is the day CJ's trade restriction expires. I mean, we all know he's not going anywhere, but now trade proposals including him are technically possible.
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Yup. Well, he can't actually be traded until tomorrow, but I thought it was close enough to enjoy throwing out a theoretical deal including him. ;)
 
e_blazer said:
Seems to me that the Blazers have a guy on their roster who would fill that "perimeter offensive engine" slot nicely. CJ & Whiteside for Wiggins, Covington & Culver. Draft picks as necessary. Added bonus: Blazers end up under the Luxury Tax threshold.

I call this deal the @Neil O. Shyster Cream Trade.
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I love this deal!! BTW, has anyone else noticed how much Wiggins has improved... hits 3’s now, getting assists... much more well rounded game than in past years... still only 24 years old.
 
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