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Strenuus said:
And he can't go back into Congress right?!
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Apparently he can go back - he only resigned his current seat - he's been elected for a new term starting in January.

Dunno that he will, though, since that would mean the ethics report would be released...

barfo
 
I'm not sure he can go back, despite re-election. I read somewhere this goes to a special election now, which I'd guess he'd win. I'd have to look to confirm.

Still, I think this should be taken as a positive in that if Trump really felt he had a mandate and unlimited power, it shouldn't have mattered. He could have bullied GOP Senators into recess and put his poor nominees through. He didn't, though. There was concern about wasting political capital there from some sector.

And this means the spotlight now can be concentrated on some of his other questionable picks, beyond Hegseth and RFK Jr. Linda McMahon is getting examined after being sued in a sexual assault-type case filed last month. Noem and Gabbard also are getting extra heat that had been going to Gaetz.

For every one of these that step aside before the confirmation process, it becomes harder for Trump to flood the zone with bad picks and get some of them through just because Congress doesn't want to be mired in hearings and look like it's fighting the will of the electorate.

IMO, this is a good sign for democracy. There's still a pulse.
 
This whole Matt Gaetz saga is precisely why it was very tough for me to get emotionally invested in Trump 2024 being this doomsday scenario. He is far too dysfunctional for that. My prediction for the next 4 years is the Plane Ride from Hell.
 
bulls_with_booz said:
This whole Matt Gaetz saga is precisely why it was very tough for me to get emotionally invested in Trump 2024 being this doomsday scenario. He is far too dysfunctional for that. My prediction for the next 4 years is the Plane Ride from Hell.
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I hope you're right. At the same time, I've learned when people say they are going to do/be the worst thing possible, take them at their word. If they might just try to do something crazy and even partially succeed by accident, it's really bad for a lot of people. Better to be prepared and mitigate, just to be on the safe side.
 
Chris Craig said:
Good. Out of the government he goes. Good riddance
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Only 2 weeks ago, Gaetz was reelected with 66% of the votes. The accusations were old even then. So there's a very good chance that he'll win the special election.
 
jlprk said:
Only 2 weeks ago, Gaetz was reelected with 66% of the votes. The accusations were old even then. So there's a very good chance that he'll win the special election.
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There's no special election. His term ends in about 6 weeks. The rest of that term the seat will be vacant.

He doesn't need to run again to go back to the house, he was, as you say, elected 2 weeks ago to a new term that starts in 6 weeks.

If he doesn't want to serve the next term, there will need to be a special election. If he wants to serve, he can just show up.

barfo
 
Fox suggested he be named to Senate seat that will be open if Rubio is confirmed as Secretary of State.
 
barfo said:
There's no special election. His term ends in about 6 weeks. The rest of that term the seat will be vacant.

He doesn't need to run again to go back to the house, he was, as you say, elected 2 weeks ago to a new term that starts in 6 weeks.

If he doesn't want to serve the next term, there will need to be a special election. If he wants to serve, he can just show up.
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Huh? He quit the job. Resigned. He didn't go on vacation. Do you have a source that a congressman can resign, then claim he only took a leave of absence? Is there any precedent?
 
Now I'm seeing articles saying Gaetz would have to run in the special election. As I suspected, there is no precedent, giving pro-Gaetz people room to argue over the definition of "vacancy."

The Constitution “requires that all House vacancies must be filled by special election,” according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS).

Article I, Section 2, Clause 4 of the Constitution says, “When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.”

State governors are responsible for ordering these special elections to fill vacancies, the CRS explains.

Florida law also says a special election will be held when House vacancies occur, but it doesn’t provide a timeline for the governor to order one.

There is some speculation that Gaetz could try to rescind his resignation from Congress, but there's no precedent for that happening and no guarantee that it would be accepted.
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from the same article running in 2 states

https://www.khou.com/article/news/v...eral/536-c419e9f2-0b4e-46ab-9c96-e2fb46729c7d

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/v...eral/536-c419e9f2-0b4e-46ab-9c96-e2fb46729c7d
 
So far as we know, Pam Bondi is not a sexual predator.
As attorney general of Florida she was expected to join multi state suit against fraudulent Trump University on behalf of defrauded Floridians. At the last minute she withdrew so Florida victims got nothing. Trump sent her campaign a $25,000 donation illegally from his foundation.
She asked the governor to postpone a scheduled execution because it conflicted with her fund raiser.
She is an election denier and unsurprisingly opposes LGBTQ rights.
 
Sounds like the reports on Gaetz are starting to leak from Congress.
 
Gaetz will take Giulliani's place as Trump's carpet bagging propogandist lawyer gathering whack jobs all around the country and assaulting their daughters.
 
riverman said:
Gaetz will take Giulliani's place as Trump's carpet bagging propogandist lawyer gathering whack jobs all around the country and assaulting their daughters.
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MAGA Twitter speculating Trump will have Bondi appoint Gaetz as special counsel.
 
What are your coping strategies for the next 4 years?

My wife and I have decided we can't get caught up in the day-to-day craziness again - "He said WHAT? He did WHAT?" It was truly toxic and unhealthy and way too stressful the first time around.

Tuning out of the shit-show-to-be seems to be the only solution, to the extent possible. Less news, more junk TV. Not caring. It seems like an awful solution, but we can't come up with a better one.

Do you have a better one?
 
Stevenson said:
What are your coping strategies for the next 4 years?

My wife and I have decided we can't get caught up in the day-to-day craziness again - "He said WHAT? He did WHAT?" It was truly toxic and unhealthy and way too stressful the first time around.

Tuning out of the shit-show-to-be seems to be the only solution, to the extent possible. Less news, more junk TV. Not caring. It seems like an awful solution, but we can't come up with a better one.

Do you have a better one?
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I've already started doing that. And it's been easier than I thought it would be. I'm trying to go for a 30-40 minute walk when I start getting the "news" itch. Definitely better for my health. I'm also trying hard (and struggling) not to respond to the constant idiotic nonsense posted by our resident troll (if it wasn't for his misspellings and weird, homoerotic flexes I'd think he was an actual bot). Slowly weaning myself away.

But in general I am extremely grateful to be living in a blue state. I'm not the biggest Kotek fan but I do trust her to stick her thumb in Trump's eye if and when necessary. And at my age there is only so much Trump can do to actually hurt me. Two weeks before the election I cashed out two relatively small inherited IRAs. They were making bank under Biden but I expect Trump's wild eyed incompetence will make them essentially worthless within a year or two, so I am stockpiling cash. The coming Trump hyper inflation will obviously lower the value, but it's better than to have the entire amount vanish into the ether. Other than that, I'm just trying to stay relatively positive while avoiding politics (and my Trumper acquaintances) for the most part.
 
Stevenson said:
What are your coping strategies for the next 4 years?

My wife and I have decided we can't get caught up in the day-to-day craziness again - "He said WHAT? He did WHAT?" It was truly toxic and unhealthy and way too stressful the first time around.

Tuning out of the shit-show-to-be seems to be the only solution, to the extent possible. Less news, more junk TV. Not caring. It seems like an awful solution, but we can't come up with a better one.

Do you have a better one?
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Help. Help your neighbors, help your community, help your city, help your state.

There are going to be a lot of changes. Hopefully, some will be good but we know many people's lives will be drastically changed for the worst.

Helping your neighbor to apply for PGE's discount.

Helping a neighbor find their local food bank.

Volunteering at a school or library.

There are so many small things you can do that would do so much for others.

We're not going to get through what this is by hiding from it.
 

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Stevenson said:
What are your coping strategies for the next 4 years?

My wife and I have decided we can't get caught up in the day-to-day craziness again - "He said WHAT? He did WHAT?" It was truly toxic and unhealthy and way too stressful the first time around.

Tuning out of the shit-show-to-be seems to be the only solution, to the extent possible. Less news, more junk TV. Not caring. It seems like an awful solution, but we can't come up with a better one.

Do you have a better one?
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My wife is due with our second child in February, so luckily I'll have plenty to distract me. That's my plan at least.
 
Shaboid said:
My wife is due with our second child in February, so luckily I'll have plenty to distract me. That's my plan at least.
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You know Trump is going to pass a law that all boys must be named Donald and all girls Elon.
 
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