Predict the Blazers trade deadline

[Blazers Roy]

"Hey NBA, if you can give us your superstars while we give you trash in return that would be great".

 

[illmatic99]

At the least, I expect us to try to get to the salary floor. Then again, we can also do this after our season ends, but before July 1.

 

[SIeepwalker]

if we get Griffin I will probably have to stop watching the NBA
Can't root for someone I hate

 

[PtldPlatypus]

At the least, I expect us to try to get to the salary floor. Then again, we can also do this after our season ends, but before July 1.

We can do it later, but that seems less likely because anyone we might acquire at that point would have multiple years remaining on his deal which would subsequently eat into our cap space for the summer, and most of our best trade assets (Kaman, Henderson, Meyers, Harkless, Crabbe) which would be needed to acquire a "needle-mover" (the only acceptable result of a 2016 cap-consuming trade) won't be available to be dealt at that point.

IMO, if reaching the floor is a goal, it happens this week or not at all.

 

[B-Roy]

We can do it later, but that seems less likely because anyone we might acquire at that point would have multiple years remaining on his deal which would subsequently eat into our cap space for the summer, and most of our best trade assets (Kaman, Henderson, Meyers, Harkless, Crabbe) which would be needed to acquire a "needle-mover" (the only acceptable result of a 2016 cap-consuming trade) won't be available to be dealt at that point.

IMO, if reaching the floor is a goal, it happens this week or not at all.

If David Lee doesn't get moved in a blockbuster I fully expect to eat his contract for a second or two.

 

[TBpup]

Something like this would be what I'd try if I'm Neil http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gw535rt

We get Blake Griffin
Clippers get Markieff Morris, Hendo, Meyers, PJ Tucker, $11mil trade exception, POR pick,
Phoenix gets Vonleh, Kaman

Plumlee, Davis
Griffin, Harkless
Aminu,
CJ, Crabbe
Dame

That is over $33 Million in salary the Blazers would be trading for with only $17 Million going out. Yes Crawford's $5.7M comes off this summer but does this roster want Lance Stephenson for the next year and a half? I understand Meyers might not be back if he gets offered a monster deal and Hendo/Kaman were leaving anyway but that is a TON of cap space given up for two very talented, albeit questionable locker room guys.

That also makes Portland very small for at least the rest of this season. Her is the rest of the roster filled out with the trade implications.

Plumlee, Davis
Griffin, Harkless, Alexander
Aminu, Stephenson, Montero
CJ, Crabbe, Connaughton
Dame, Frazier

 

[BlazerCaravan]

"Hey NBA, if you can give us your superstars while we give you trash in return that would be great".

Didn't the NBA do just that when the Clips got CP3?

 

[Scalma]

Didn't the NBA do just that when the Clips got CP3?

Or remember the Gasol trade?

 

[craigehlo]

I think Neil targets Thaddeus Young to fill the PF spot. He's hugely underrated and doesn't demand the ball, so it wouldn't interrupt any of the current offense. He's a massive upgrade to Noah on both offense and defense. We send them Noah, and even offer to take back JJack in a salary dump since he's done for the year.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I think Neil targets Thaddeus Young to fill the PF spot. He's hugely underrated and doesn't demand the ball, so it wouldn't interrupt any of the current offense. He's a massive upgrade to Noah on both offense and defense. We send them Noah, and even offer to take back JJack in a salary dump since he's done for the year.

Plus we get the whole "traded Jermaine to get Dale Davis" thing done sooner rather than later.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think Neil targets Thaddeus Young to fill the PF spot. He's hugely underrated and doesn't demand the ball, so it wouldn't interrupt any of the current offense. He's a massive upgrade to Noah on both offense and defense. We send them Noah, and even offer to take back JJack in a salary dump since he's done for the year.

Both he and Faried are 6.8" PF. Both have similar salaries and length of contracts and both being shopped. The question is could either take us to a higher level. I think we are better off staying with Vonleh and his cheap contract until we find some one who can.

 

[craigehlo]

Plus we get the whole "traded Jermaine to get Dale Davis" thing done sooner rather than later.

If Vonleh were 7 foot and had a double digit PER, I'd be reluctant to trade him. He's a tweener that has been given the opportunity to start and hasn't really shown flashes of much, particularly for his draft position.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If Vonleh were 7 foot and had a double digit PER, I'd be reluctant to trade him. He's a tweener that has been given the opportunity to start and hasn't really shown flashes of much, particularly for his draft position.

Vonleh has 5" more on Thaddeus Young in terms of wing span. Isn't Young the tweener? I think we need an athletic PF who can cover both stretch 4's and post up 4's. It seems like Vonleh has the potential to fit that need.

 

[Scalma]

I think Neil targets Thaddeus Young to fill the PF spot. He's hugely underrated and doesn't demand the ball, so it wouldn't interrupt any of the current offense. He's a massive upgrade to Noah on both offense and defense. We send them Noah, and even offer to take back JJack in a salary dump since he's done for the year.

Never

 

[craigehlo]

Vonleh has 5" more on Thaddeus Young in terms of wing span. Isn't Young the tweener? I think we need an athletic PF who can cover both stretch 4's and post up 4's. It seems like Vonleh has the potential to fit that need.

Noah has no discernible post moves aside from put back dunks. We are far too reliant on the guards in the starting rotation if we want to be a legit playoff team. Young has pretty good handles and solid post moves. He's ranking #14 in FG % (.513%) in the NBA this season. Nobody is going to mistake him for Al Jefferson on the block, but that type of PF is a dying breed anyway.

I terms of defense, Young is totally underrated. 12th in defense rebounds, 12th in total rebounds, 19th in offense boards, 18th in steals, 16th in rebounds per game.

 

[Red Rooster]

Portland is definitely making a huge move. I think Portland brings in an elite, all-star level player that has no off court issues, and has the highest bbiq you've ever seen. This player will be top 5 in offense and defense, and can play positions 1-5. Portland will send out Legend and give up a 2050 and 2051 2nd round pick.

 

[Schilly]

I think what the Blazers have positioned themselves to do and will do is be the 3rd party facilitator while other teams try to match-up salaries. I believe that many of us because of the cap jump this summer are overlooking the fact that most teams are still over the cap and have to match salaries (based on trade regulations) to make things work between now and June 30th or more specifically this Thursday at Noon PST.

The beauty of it is this, teams may have to really entice us to help them out, that usually comes in the form of Draft Picks. That is what Boston and Philly have done to amass their picks. SO my prediction is we will be involved this way somehow. It's very much in Neil's playbook of acquiring Assets for very little.

 

[RipCityWarrior]

One or two salary dump deals that net picks and or unproven players is my prediction. All for the low low price of one Myers non legend (at least I hope)

 

[Wizard Mentor]

My Brave Predictions:
Neil uses Biebs, Hendo, Kaman, cap space to bring in Tobias Harris and Terrance Jones.

Now THAT would be an interesting team:
Plums/Jones/Harris/CJ/Lillard

 

[Scalma]

I think what the Blazers have positioned themselves to do and will do is be the 3rd party facilitator while other teams try to match-up salaries. I believe that many of us because of the cap jump this summer are overlooking the fact that most teams are still over the cap and have to match salaries (based on trade regulations) to make things work between now and June 30th or more specifically this Thursday at Noon PST.

The beauty of it is this, teams may have to really entice us to help them out, that usually comes in the form of Draft Picks. That is what Boston and Philly have done to amass their picks. SO my prediction is we will be involved this way somehow. It's very much in Neil's playbook of acquiring Assets for very little.

Yup. I'll take a draft pick but it'd be awesome if Olshey acquired a younger player who hasn't gotten a chance to play or just needs a change of scenery.

 

[illmatic99]

I want draft picks. Don't care if they're heavily protected future ones or whatever, but our stockpile of picks is minimal. Given the future cap landscape, these things are going to be so valuable (both now, and yrs from now).

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think Neil will try to move guys that he doesn't want to overpay for, namely Meyers Leonard, Gerald Henderson and Alan Crabbe. I think he'll go for a home run versus stockpiling draft picks too.

 

[Schilly]

I think we are smoking Crack if we think Neil "wants" to move Leonard. He might get overpaid because that is the going rate for a 7'1" guy who can shoot from all over the court, rebounds pretty well and is turning into a good on the block defender... AKA he won't be overpaid. Now Would Neil trade Meyers? Yes if the player coming back made more sense for this team. Let's keep in mind that we have the 4th best bench in the league and Meyers is a significant part of that.

 

[Scalma]

Fans will always find something to bitch about. First it was blazers lost everyone, have no talent they won't win more than 20 games. Now it's they have players that will be too expensive. Whatever.

It's not my money. I'll let Allen worry about it. I'm glad were in this position.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Leonard is going to be poison pilled this summer. I can see the Lakers making a push for him, they definitely have the cap space and he'd kind of fit in there pretty nicely.

 

[Scalma]

Leonard is going to be poison pilled this summer. I can see the Lakers making a push for him, they definitely have the cap space and he'd kind of fit in there pretty nicely.

There's really no such thing as a poison pill anymore.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

There's really no such thing as a poison pill anymore.

We did it to OKC with Kanter last year. Well, not backloaded but in terms overpaying

 

[Scalma]

We did it to OKC with Kanter last year.

Yeah and where is Kanter now?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah and where is Kanter now?

Yeah, but they overpaid for him. Some teams might just do it out of pure fuckery. I believe the Blazers will have other free agent targets this summer and don't want to tie up cap room. Maybe I'm wrong but I see any of the guys becoming RFAs as being on the block.

 

[Scalma]

Yeah, but they overpaid for him. Some teams might just do it out of pure fuckery.

Sure but the only person that really has to worry about it is Paul Allen. If clayton Bennett went into luxury tax to pay Kanter I doubt Allen would have a problem doing the same if need be.