Game Thread PREZ DEBATE #1: Chris Wallace Moderates on Sept 29th!

[THE HCP]

I don't see why we can't compare him to others as well, or even mention things about him that aren't perfect. I don't see what's wrong with that.

I here you, but in my opinion it’s like this.
You have a run down 88 Honda that breaks down once a week. Somebody offers you an 89 Toyota that only breaks down once a year! Of course you want the 2020 Audi A7, but you’ll take the 89 Toyota.
AS LONG AS IT’S NOT THE 88 HONDA!

 

[THE HCP]

Its a shame that the democrats couldn't muster up anyone better than "at least he's not Trump" in the last 4 years. Young voter apathy would be the downfall if the Dems shockingly lose again. And by tonight's reaction, it certainly seems that way. Most young people are disgusted with what they saw and have no faith.

As they should be. Same goes with a lot of older democrats. But at least it’s not Trump.

 

[THE HCP]

Its a shame that the democrats couldn't muster up anyone better than "at least he's not Trump" in the last 4 years. Young voter apathy would be the downfall if the Dems shockingly lose again. And by tonight's reaction, it certainly seems that way. Most young people are disgusted with what they saw and have no faith.

I saw Harris on CNN after..... I would honestly vote for HER before either of the two that are actually running!

 

[Chris Craig]

I saw Harris on CNN after..... I would honestly vote for HER before either of the two that are actually running!

She will be the nominee next election

 

[THE HCP]

I don't trust the left or the right. Anyone too much into politics is one to stay away from.

Amen to this.
Funny thing is, this is the most I’ve ever paid attention to politics in my entire life, same as my wife. We can, in a weird way, thank that cock-gobbler in the White House for that. Same way his hate storm he created really opened up the eyes of many to the ramped racism in the world.

 

[THE HCP]

And like that...... The Proud Boys are selling merchandise thanks to their glorious leader. His supporters on here I’m sure are rushing out to buy one ASAP!

 

[THE HCP]

I will post this picture as a reply to EVERY post supporting Trump from this day forward.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I here you, but in my opinion it’s like this.
You have a run down 88 Honda that breaks down once a week. Somebody offers you an 89 Toyota that only breaks down once a year! Of course you want the 2020 Audi A7, but you’ll take the 89 Toyota.
AS LONG AS IT’S NOT THE 88 HONDA!

Absolutely, but I'll keep dreaming about, and probably occasionally talking about, how much better a 2020 Audi A7 would be.

 

[THE HCP]

Absolutely, but I'll keep dreaming about, and probably occasionally talking about, how much better a 2020 Audi A7 would be.

Completely understandable.

 

[yankeesince59]

Anyone else hoping for that asteroid to nail us soon?

After about the first 15 minutes of the "debate", my wife simply said, "We're fucked".

 

[stampedehero]

I watched every minute of the debate. I define Trump as an insecure bully who had to suck the air out of the room so it would inflate his abnormal ego. He couldn't follow a simple and courteous course outlined by the moderator and his organization.. It was so frustrating for Joe Biden to listen to this fanatic and his barbs were justified. If there is another debate, Trumps' microphone should be cut when Biden speaks. Perhaps duct tape can be applied over his spewing mouth as an alternative. In general terms, I'm voting for Joe Biden because he actually appealed to the American people, has a dignified approach to the office, speaks to the middle class and has the capability to restore our Country and it's status among other nations.

 

[stampedehero]

I didn't think Biden would even show up. We'll see, he has a week to weasel out of it I guess.

He did show up and Trump is the weasel due to his natural tendency to throw mud at Biden, as in the example of his mockery Biden's sons. Once he insulted Bidens' family, then it was clear to me the position of POTUS has been tarnished.

 

[kjironman1]

My just turned 18 year old granddaughter texted me this "Disappointing for my first presidential debate as legal voter. Makes me not want to vote."

Sad.

 

[crandc]

Lucia has better manners.

Seriously. When a candidate is behind they need to win over undecided and wavering. White women narrowly supported Trump in 2016 but voted Democratic in 2018, largely driven by health care and women's rights. Both are in even bigger issues now. Women all over America wanted to tell Trump to go to his room until he learns to behave.

Seniors heavily supported Trump in 2016 but are moving to Biden. Older voters remember watching previous debates where remarks were sharp but candidates respected one another, the moderator, the viewers, the election. Trump could not conceal his contempt.

This year's Republican platform is literally whatever Trump wants, but traditional Republicans still want to vote for capitalism, strong military, low taxes but dislike Trump's behavior. How many did he win?

But his cult of Nazis and Kool aid drinkers will say yay, he owned the libs!

BTW Helen Reddy was invincible.

 

[kjironman1]

Busted!

 

[stampedehero]

Busted!

It's a Russian implant device that was made in China. Maybe it got cooked and he went nuts.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I find it extremely interesting that some people have yet to weigh in on their boy’s performance. Maybe he really IS smart enough to know that there is no effing way to defend the guy after last night....unless you’re a Proud Boy. Not that that will change his “one issue” vote.........

 

[illmatic99]

To my fellow progressives:

 

[kjironman1]

It's a Russian implant device that was made in China. Maybe it got cooked and he went nuts.

I'm pretty sure this is fake news.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[e_blazer]

I'm pretty sure this is fake news.

It looks to me like a tie-down point for whatever it is he does with his “hair”. I’m guessing the person who does it for $79K a year isn’t getting a tip since it showed on TV.

 

[julius]

I'm pretty sure this is fake news.

Agreed, it looks photoshopped, or a product of digitization (if that's such a thing) of the picture.

Now if there's VIDEO of it, that's one thing.

 

[julius]

Funny how he's acting like that is a solid talking point. I'd rather a president not say "law and order" than refusing to denounce racism and white supremacy.

 

[wizenheimer]

Its a shame that the democrats couldn't muster up anyone better than "at least he's not Trump" in the last 4 years. .

considering it's trump, and everybody with a pulse knows the quality of that man, why is it just the D's responsibility to muster up anyone better than "at least he's not trump...". If the R's had any integrity and were actually putting country before party & justice before power, they wouldn't be backing trump, and wouldn't have nominated the asshole to begin with

it shouldn't just the D's who have the responsibility for 'saving' the nation from racism, injustice, and hate. That the R's are somehow evading that accountability in the minds of so many people, maybe some such as yourself, is a big part of the problem

 

[Chris Craig]

Biden actually used them in the debate

 

[Chris Craig]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

considering it's trump, and everybody with a pulse knows the quality of that man, why is it just the D's responsibility to muster up anyone better than "at least he's not trump...". If the R's had any integrity and were actually putting country before party & justice before power, they wouldn't be backing trump, and wouldn't have nominated the asshole to begin with

it shouldn't just the D's who have the responsibility for 'saving' the nation from racism, injustice, and hate. That the R's are somehow evading that accountability in the minds of so many people, maybe some such as yourself, is a big part of the problem

The base supports Trump. He has huge support and rallies.

No one is excited or wants Biden there. They just want NOT TRUMP. I mean look at Biden, he's fucking senile. At least in 2016, the dem candidate got people excited for nominating the first woman president. What's Biden's hook? Yeah, "he's not Trump". That's it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Proud Boys celebrate Trump’s ‘stand by’ remark about them at the debate.

Members of the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, celebrated on Tuesday night after President Trump mentioned them during the first presidential debate.

Asked whether he condemned white supremacists and military groups, Mr. Trump demurred and then said, “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by.”

Within minutes, members of the group were posting in private social media channels, calling the president’s comments “historic.” In one channel dedicated to the Proud Boys on Telegram, a private messaging app, group members called the president’s comment a tacit endorsement of their violent tactics.

In another message, a member commented that the group was already seeing a spike in “new recruits.”

Mr. Trump’s rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., noted that the group was celebrating Mr. Trump’s remark, pointing in a retweet to some of the comments being made.When asked what Mr. Trump meant by “stand by,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to the president’s campaign, said it was “very clear he wants them to knock it off.”

The Proud Boys describe themselves as “a pro-Western fraternal organization for men.” The group has openly endorsed violence, and has recently been tied to several violent incidents at recent protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Chris Craig]

Proud Boys celebrate Trump’s ‘stand by’ remark about them at the debate.

Members of the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, celebrated on Tuesday night after President Trump mentioned them during the first presidential debate.

Asked whether he condemned white supremacists and military groups, Mr. Trump demurred and then said, “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by.”

Within minutes, members of the group were posting in private social media channels, calling the president’s comments “historic.” In one channel dedicated to the Proud Boys on Telegram, a private messaging app, group members called the president’s comment a tacit endorsement of their violent tactics.

In another message, a member commented that the group was already seeing a spike in “new recruits.”

Mr. Trump’s rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., noted that the group was celebrating Mr. Trump’s remark, pointing in a retweet to some of the comments being made.When asked what Mr. Trump meant by “stand by,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to the president’s campaign, said it was “very clear he wants them to knock it off.”

The Proud Boys describe themselves as “a pro-Western fraternal organization for men.” The group has openly endorsed violence, and has recently been tied to several violent incidents at recent protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html

The proud boys believe Trump gave them consent here to go out and commit violence against protesters. As bad as things are, its about to get worse.