Politics Public Impeachment Hearings

[calvin natt]

And you have deduced this distinct possibility by what factual and scientific means?

He's dead?

 

[CupWizier]

And you have deduced this distinct possibility by what factual and scientific means?

Probably by this fact, something trumpers don't seem to think are important and believe lies more than facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...r-at-51/4c3aaed3-674c-4cde-9c3a-0d9c9248c114/

You just make debating you so easy.

 

[riverman]

I did not support the impeachment of Bill Clinton, even though he did indeed commit actual crimes.
I did not call for the impeachment of Obama, even though he did indeed cause me and my family more actual harm than any President ever did.

Give both of the above, it seems you make irrational assumptions.

Trump has actually fucked up worse than Nixon...I supported Nixon's impeachment...I support Trump's but would rather see him cut a deal like Nixon did and go back to his playboy fantasies. The smart move at this point would be for Trump to resign with a get out of trouble free pass....Nixon was smart enought to see that and act accordingly. If Trump doesn't resign and loses the next election he's going to regret not using his get out of trouble plea bargain to keep out of litigation for the next 20 years.

 

[CupWizier]

Proverbs 17:28 New International MARIS61 version:

"Even a Deep State Traitor is thought wise if she keeps silent, and discerning if she holds her tongue."

so you have nothing other than bullshit? crandc is way above your class level.

 

[CupWizier]

Trump has actually fucked up worse than Nixon...I supported Nixon's impeachment...I support Trump's but would rather see him cut a deal like Nixon did and go back to his playboy fantasies. The smart move at this point would be for Trump to resign with a get out of trouble free pass....Nixon was smart enought to see that and act accordingly. If Trump doesn't resign and loses the next election he's going to regret not using his get out of trouble plea bargain to keep out of litigation for the next 20 years.

trump is as dumb as he is stubborn and will go down like the titanic one way or the other.

 

[stampedehero]

Thanks all, but I’m more confused than ever. Recording on my DVR at home. Curious if the CNN feed is the same as the FOX feed?

Once CNN starts talking it sucks, especially Wolfie Blitzer.

 

[julius]

Not presuming to answer for ABM, but in my own case you attack me for mostly posting sworn testimony and facts in evidence.

Either way, it's hard to take this 3-year tantrum seriously as it's a conservative's wet dream to watch the Dem party completely and probably permanently destroy themselves in a public setting.

This will still be hilarious when it's taught in political history classes 50 years from now.

No I "attack" you because you're full of it.

 

[julius]

On second thought, as a lifelong Dem who switched to Libertarian in 2015, I welcome you aboard.

News Flash though, Trump is the closest thing to a Libertarian President you'll see running in 2020.

If there was any doubt you're full of it...


https://www.lp.org/trump-opposite-libertarian/

 

[yankeesince59]

Once CNN starts talking it sucks, especially Wolfie Blitzer.

Gotta agree that WB is a tool.

 

[yankeesince59]

This will be a most interesting thread to review later.
The democrat house will impeach. Hell they have said so by the time they handed Nancy the gavel. The hearings are simply to feed the flock.

The Senate will not convict. Shoot, it will not even be close. <- An interesting review point. Why did the house even send it here?

Then the next interesting review point will be in early next November. After Trump's reelection, yes, but the most interesting will be how badly the Democrat House lost their majority due to this, anti-American folly. They do not have a Presidential candidate with coattails to help care a majority in the house, especially in the face of a failed impeachment.

How many rabid S2 impeachment advocates will admits to simply talking out their arse?

Doesn't matter...in the long run, impeachment itself will have the desired effect.

 

[MarAzul]

Doesn't matter...in the long run, impeachment itself will have the desired effect.

Dear God!
Even when wrong, you achieve the desired effect!

That people, is very sick.

 

[Lanny]

Lanny...I'd follow you to the moon.

I couldn't even get away in Vancouver? Oh, the humanity.

 

[Lanny]

You may have cleared it with the siblings, but daddy isn't so sure...

Llamas look like donkeys with long necks.
A lama, such as pictured above, looks like a donkey but without the long neck, as you can clearly see above.

 

[MARIS61]

He's dead?

I repeat my question.

 

[MARIS61]

If there was any doubt you're full of it...

https://www.lp.org/trump-opposite-libertarian/

No, your 2 year-old opinion piece is full of it.

It tries to transfer blame for Sessions and Bolton obstructing Trump on his promises. He shut both of them down when they tried and fired them both for it.

 

[MARIS61]

Probably by this fact, something trumpers don't seem to think are important and believe lies more than facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...r-at-51/4c3aaed3-674c-4cde-9c3a-0d9c9248c114/

You just make debating you so easy.

I see, so you believe it because you saw it on the internet. Explains a lot.

 

[MARIS61]

Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella shakes hands with Barack Obama in Oval Office

 

[yankeesince59]

I see, so you believe it because you saw it on the internet. Explains a lot.

lol...^^^ says the king of blindly copying and pasting internet articles.

 

[yankeesince59]

Dear God!
Even when wrong, you achieve the desired effect!

That people, is very sick.

Wrong about what?

Instead of making vague statements, why don't you come right out and say exactly what you mean?

 

[crandc]

OMG, Maris actually found a picture of some random dude shaking hands with President Obama!!!!

Therefore:
Random dude is whistle blower
All evidence is made up
Everyone who testified is a traitor

 

[julius]

Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella shakes hands with Barack Obama in Oval Office

I see, so you believe it because you saw it on the internet. Explains a lot.

 

[calvin natt]

I repeat my question.

so roger Maris is alive and it’s you? Incredible!

 

[CupWizier]

so roger Maris is alive and it’s you? Incredible!

rotflmao! maris61 said he went to Lake Oswego High School, but he didn't even know their two big baseball stars who I played with and against several times that were there when he was in school so it's obvious he didn't play any significant baseball in high school.

 

[julius]

rotflmao! maris61 said he went to Lake Oswego High School, but he didn't even know their two big baseball stars who I played with and against several times that were there when he was in school so it's obvious he didn't play any significant baseball in high school.

Or he was a REAL American even back then, and the only REAL baseball was out of Cleveland, Kansas City, New York and St Louis.

 

[Lanny]

Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella shakes hands with Barack Obama in Oval Office

Without meaningful evidence from a reliable source, your statement is just so much bullshit.

 

[Lanny]

Wrong about what?

Instead of making vague statements, why don't you come right out and say exactly what you mean?

That's a pet peeve of mine that ranks near the top of pet peeves, people who beat around the bush without getting to the point.

 

[Lanny]

Oh dear...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fi...ng-lethal-aid-to-ukraine-in-fight-with-russia

She explained it and the logic behind it as well as the logic behind why she now supports lethal aid that is complex, oh dear

 

[Lanny]

Not presuming to answer for ABM, but in my own case you attack me for mostly posting sworn testimony and facts in evidence.

Either way, it's hard to take this 3-year tantrum seriously as it's a conservative's wet dream to watch the Dem party completely and probably permanently destroy themselves in a public setting.

This will still be hilarious when it's taught in political history classes 50 years from now.

How ironic.

 

[Lanny]

David Holmes's Q and A didn't go well at all, quickly became obvious he fabricated his testimony on "overhearing" both ends of a Sondland to Trump phone call.

I call bullshit.

 

[Lanny]

I still don't see the need for a 2 party system...it is simply too dysfunctional. Instead, why not take the side of common sense and what's best for the planet/country instead of silly liberal/conservative allegiance?

And you're right...the GOP is no more...instead, it has become the party of Trump.

I call it the party of the Trump cult.

Ron Johnson casts doubt on Vindman testimony, says NSC official fits 'profile' of Never-Trumper

By Andrew O'Reilly

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., sent a letter on Monday to the ranking Republicans on the House Intelligence and Oversight Committees in which he detailed his account of White House meetings with Senate lawmakers about releasing foreign aid to Ukraine -- and cast doubt on one of the inquiry’s key witnesses just a day before the official’s planned testimony.

In his letter to Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Devin Nunes of California, Johnson– the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s Europe subcommittee – said he viewed the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump as an “effort to sabotage the Trump administration."

Johnson wrote in his letter that Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official who is scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, is one of “a significant number of bureaucrats and staff members within the executive branch have never accepted President Trump as legitimate and resent his unorthodox style and his intrusion onto their turf.”

“They react by leaking to the press and participating in the ongoing effort to sabotage his policies and, if possible, remove him from office,” Johnson said. “It is entirely possible that Vindman fits this profile.”

Johnson, who attended Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s inauguration on May 20, was responding to a request from Jordan and Nunes to hear the Wisconsin senator’s account of the meetings about aid to Ukraine.

Johnson, who in his letter reiterated that he had “winced” when Sondland told him Trump likely would unfreeze nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine if the eastern European nation announced an investigation into the 2016 election, said Trump personally told him the reason for withholding aid was to deal with corruption in Ukraine.

“He reminded me how thoroughly corrupt Ukraine was and again conveyed his frustration that Europe doesn’t do its fair share of providing military aid,” Johnson wrote of his conversation with Trump. “He specifically cited the sort of conversation he would have with Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany. To paraphrase President Trump: ‘Ron, I talk to Angela and ask her, ‘Why don’t you fund these things,’ and she tells me, ‘Because we know you will.’ We’re schmucks. Ron. We’re schmucks.’”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

In testimony given yesterday, the European Union has given Ukraine about $12 Billion in aid while we have given them about $3 Billion in aid which includes loans.