Quick calls out Stotts etc

[TBpup]

How often does Quick ever break any big news regarding the Blazers?

What does that have to do with asking legitimate questions of a coach about a player that is near max level who is regressing?

how come quick doesn't mention the fact that klay thompson, also struggling , only has a single game of over 5 assists in an offensive system that produces large team assist numbers?

Because he is not reporting on the Warriors?

 

[CupWizier]

sure you can. klay averages 18.7 shots per game, cj 18.0

Yep as I brought that up in a previous thread. What I find ironic is that last year and the beginning of this year many posters were all over Nurkic for not producing the same as when we first acquired him and then the dogging on Nurk started with trade scenarios following. Now we have Nurk playing beast mode and dominating thanks to some adjustments Stotts has made. No reason McCollum can't recover and this team will be a better team when he does. It seems all to often some fans want to instantly run players out of Portland. We don't need less talent, we need more talent.

 

[CupWizier]

What does that have to do with asking legitimate questions of a coach about a player that is near max level who is regressing?

Quick can ask whatever question he wants and Stotts can answer it in any way he wants. It's really that simple. Stotts viewed it as Quick trying to stir the pot and get Stotts to say something negative about McCollum so he put a stop to it. That is his right as well. You and others may not like it but that's the reality.

 

[lawai'a]

What does that have to do with asking legitimate questions of a coach about a player that is near max level who is regressing?



Because he is not reporting on the Warriors?

or maybe cause it would offer perspective on his comment about the assist numbers and denigrate his insinuation that that is too low a number for a struggling shooting guard?

 

[Scalma]

sure you can. klay averages 18.7 shots per game, cj 18.0

Klay pulls up on 6% of his three pointers. CJs pull ups are more than double that. 53% of Klays field goal attempts involve 0 dribbles, compared to CJs 20%. Their roles are not comparable.

 

[lawai'a]

Klay pulls up on 6% of his three pointers. CJs pull ups are more than double that. 53% of Klays field goal attempts involve 0 dribbles, compared to CJs 20%. Their roles are not comparable.

but their opportunities/touches would indicate that klay shoots more and passes less.

 

[TBpup]

Quick can ask whatever question he wants and Stotts can answer it in any way he wants. It's really that simple. Stotts viewed it as Quick trying to stir the pot and get Stotts to say something negative about McCollum so he put a stop to it. That is his right as well. You and others may not like it but that's the reality.

It had nothing to do with whether I liked it. It was in response to people asking if the questions were 'fair'. In reality, if Stotts were in a bigger market, he would get questions like that all the time.

 

[Scalma]

but their opportunities/touches would indicate that klay shoots more and passes less.

That’s by design.

 

[jlprk]

Klay doesn’t have the ball in his hands as much as CJ. Their roles are different. Can’t compare them.

sure you can. klay averages 18.7 shots per game, cj 18.0

Their usage stat is the same, but there should be a stat called "Dribbling Time."

 

[TBpup]

Not sure how Klay Thompson got into this discussion but they are completely different players. Very different styles on offense.....and totally different in effectiveness on defense.

 

[Scalma]

Their usage stat is the same, but there should be a stat called "Dribbling Time."

There is.

 

[B-Roy]

Quick can ask whatever question he wants and Stotts can answer it in any way he wants. It's really that simple. Stotts viewed it as Quick trying to stir the pot and get Stotts to say something negative about McCollum so he put a stop to it. That is his right as well. You and others may not like it but that's the reality.

Huh? Quick asked how McCollum was impacting the game in other ways since Stotts directly alluded to that. How is that trying to get Stotts to say something negative about McCollum? If anything, Stotts's unwillingness to answer the question was more harmful to McCollum than any words he could have possibly said.

 

[Chris Craig]

It was very obvious to Stotts and obvious to myself that Quick is simply trying to create animosity and a controversy. No team needs that thus Stotts cut him off. Stotts is not going to publicly humiliate a player as that's the way it should be in my opinion. If there are issues to be addressed, that should be done behind closed doors and within the team, not in the press.

Pretty much everyone understands CJ has struggled this year, but a body of work of less than half a season shouldn;t override the good things that he has done for this team. The constant bashing of Blazer players by fans gets old and by doing what Quick did and what many of the fans have been doing can affect a team and create way more problems than this team has and a team can quickly go downhill. I saw it with Rasheed, ZBO, Bonzi (now I know much of their issues were off court but fans were also constantly dogging on their game. I even started to see it with many fans and Brandon Roy as people were criticizing him for his shot choices and calling him selfish. It just gets old and no amount of whining is going to improve the team. I am confident that McCollum can regain his form and help this team for the future.

Stotts is a NBA coach. He makes Millions. If he can't take criticsm he is in the wrong job. He is soft.

 

[Scalma]

The funny thing about Klay/CJ is a few on this board, myself included, have been advocating for Stotts to use CJ more off the ball, similar to how golden state uses Klay. Less dribbling, more catch and shoot. If he can’t pass, don’t use him in a playmaker role...obviousllyyyyyy

 

[CupWizier]

Huh? Quick asked how McCollum was impacting the game in other ways since Stotts directly alluded to that. How is that trying to get Stotts to say something negative about McCollum? If anything, Stotts's unwillingness to answer the question was more harmful to McCollum than any words he could have possibly said.

Sometimes it's easy to project where someone is going based on reputation and the type of questions being asked. Maybe it's not obvious to you but it appeared obvious to Stotts. I disagree that it was more harmful to McCollum though other than those that like to project their own feelings into the equation.

 

[lawai'a]

cj doesn't have durant and steph on his team either. so obviously klay's teammates are better, and more willing shooters. they are in different systems. all valid points. cj averages 2.6/as/g
thompson 2.1. if quick had included that cj's assist numbers were down this year despite struggles, i would not have even brought it up. is quick's style i have no stomach for. that was what all my references were too.

The funny thing about Klay/CJ is a few on this board, myself included, have been advocating for Stotts to use CJ more off the ball, similar to how golden state uses Klay. Less dribbling, more catch and shoot. If he can’t pass, don’t use him in a playmaker role...obviousllyyyyyy

 

[CupWizier]

The funny thing about Klay/CJ is a few on this board, myself included, have been advocating for Stotts to use CJ more off the ball, similar to how golden state uses Klay. Less dribbling, more catch and shoot. If he can’t pass, don’t use him in a playmaker role...obviousllyyyyyy

Is McCollum an effective off the ball scorer? Is that a strength of his or is he better off the dribble. McCollum's role as a playmaker has also been greatly reduced already this year so not sure what your issue is there. What's kind of humorous the other day I was watching a Warriors game and the commentators said that Thompson was going to look more to shoot off the dribble.

 

[ripcityboy]

Hmmm.... more borderline irascibility than a couple thas have been locked into a loveless marriage for 30 years. And it's only going to get better as the season progresses, THIS WEEK ON.....



THE BLAZER VERSION! STAY TUNED!

 

[B-Roy]

Sometimes it's easy to project where someone is going based on reputation and the type of questions being asked. Maybe it's not obvious to you but it appeared obvious to Stotts. I disagree that it was more harmful to McCollum though other than those that like to project their own feelings into the equation.

No, that's called allowing your biases to affect your judgment.

Something that Stotts's does quite regularly with his rotations!

 

[Scalma]

Is McCollum an effective off the ball scorer? Is that a strength of his or is he better off the dribble. McCollum's role as a playmaker has also been greatly reduced already this year so not sure what your issue is there. What's kind of humorous the other day I was watching a Warriors game and the commentators said that Thompson was going to look more to shoot off the dribble.

Well, CJ has been pretty effective in catch and shoot situations throughout his career, so I’d say he is an effective scorer off the ball. For his career, he has been safely north of 40% in catch and shoot three pointers. For example, last year Klay was at 44% while CJ was at 43%. It’s something to explore imo.

 

[CupWizier]

No, that's called allowing your biases to affect your judgment.

Something that Stotts's does quite regularly with his rotations!

You can call it whatever you want. I call it heading off an issue before it starts.

 

[CupWizier]

Stotts is a NBA coach. He makes Millions. If he can't take criticsm he is in the wrong job. He is soft.

Doesn't have anything to do with taking criticism in my opinion. His reaction had nothing to do with himself.

 

[WillG]

Really poor form from Stotts to call Quick back into his office to complain about "unfair questions".

What?, so accountability is not allowed - nor is questioning the regime?
C.J. IS having a down season - but we're not allowed to question it?
Where is the transparency? Stotts taking a leaf from the draconian, no questions/accountability Olshey style.

Just another demonstration of incompetence from this mediocre front office.
Really can't wait for this unenjoyable incarnation of the team to be dismantled. . .

 

[jlprk]

last year and the beginning of this year many posters were all over Nurkic for not producing the same as when we first acquired him, and then the dogging on Nurk started with trade scenarios following. Now we have Nurk playing beast mode and dominating thanks to some adjustments Stotts has made. No reason McCollum can't recover and this team will be a better team when he does.

That's why we're all frustrated...waiting for Stotts to adjust his system to lower expectations on McCollum, who is less talented than Stotts' system assumes. So far, Stotts has no ideas.

So when Quick asks negative questions about McCollum, he's really asking them about Stotts' talent to teach and make adjustments.

Stotts had the choice of blaming himself, or the player's effort, so he ran off. Can't blame him. He's just not a talented-enough coach to squeeze more out of McCollum, as Olshey expects, providing him with no scoring Small Forward. You can't get blood from a turnip.

 

[KingSpeed]

Even though he missed a game tying shot last night, CJ has been hitting big shots in our wins. And Turner had season high 9 assists last night.

 

[Chris Craig]

Doesn't have anything to do with taking criticism in my opinion. His reaction had nothing to do with himself.

It does. That and taking responsibility for the failure of his team. They play his system which isn't working. He is still using a bench lineup that isn't working. (He did replace Stauskas with Layman I will give him credit for that.) The bench is weak and until Olshey gets help, Stotts needs to stagger starters better. When his team loses he has to be ready to answer for it. His reaction last night shows Quick was right, and he didn't want to answer to it because he would have to take responsibility.

 

[oldmangrouch]

but their opportunities/touches would indicate that klay shoots more and passes less.

Don't confuse number of possesions with time of possesion. Klay touches the ball on many plays that are designed for him to catch and immediately shoot. The stat about the relative number of dribbles bears that out. When CJ gets the ball, he more often has it for several seconds.

 

[ripcityboy]

It does. That and taking responsibility for the failure of his team. They play his system which isn't working. He is still using a bench lineup that isn't working. (He did replace Stauskas with Layman I will give him credit for that.) The bench is weak and until Olshey gets help, Stotts needs to stagger starters better. When his team loses he has to be ready to answer for it. His reaction last night shows Quick was right, and he didn't want to answer to it because he would have to take responsibility.

Unfair line of questioning? He literally fed you two questions before that made a yellow bring road for the one about how CJ was contributing. If you say, "Yes" to the previous question, how the hell is the next logical query unreasonable? It's not like he said--

"C.J. shot hasn't been falling, is his suck-iness affecting his overall ability?"

"So he can be sucky in other ways?

"Would your describe the ways in which he sucks?"

 

[KingSpeed]

It does. That and taking responsibility for the failure of his team. They play his system which isn't working. He is still using a bench lineup that isn't working. (He did replace Stauskas with Layman I will give him credit for that.) The bench is weak and until Olshey gets help, Stotts needs to stagger starters better. When his team loses he has to be ready to answer for it. His reaction last night shows Quick was right, and he didn't want to answer to it because he would have to take responsibility.

Isn’t working? We have a decent record including three straight OT wins with one in GS!

 

[calvin natt]

Olshey trying to control the media, and thus the narrative...is that even..I don’t know the right word..ethical? Does that happen anywhere else? I’m honestly wondering, because it doesn’t seem like he gets enough shit for that.

Yes. His name is Trump.