Quick calls out Stotts etc

[HailBlazers]

Yeah I mean Quick doesn’t have the greatest reputation so I could see why Stotts reacted the way he did. Still doesn’t make it right imo. If only there was another reporter that would ask the same question.

High time #ripcitytwoClub had a representative with credentials.

 

[Chris Craig]

Unfair line of questioning? He literally fed you two questions before that made a yellow bring road for the one about how CJ was contributing. If you say, "Yes" to the previous question, how the hell is the next logical query unreasonable? It's not like he said--

"C.J. shot hasn't been falling, is his suck-iness affecting his overall ability?"

"So he can be sucky in other ways?

"Would your describe the ways in which he sucks?"

Stotts responded to the first question. He agreed yeah CJ is in a slump he hasn't been shooting well. After the followup question Stotts should have responded, CJ needs to keep shooting. He will eventually come out of his slump. Slumps end. At the same time, I need to help CJ find other ways to help the team while he is in the slump. Its that easy.

 

[lawai'a]

Don't confuse number of possesions with time of possesion. Klay touches the ball on many plays that are designed for him to catch and immediately shoot. The stat about the relative number of dribbles bears that out. When CJ gets the ball, he more often has it for several seconds.

this was never meant to directly compare the two at all. just to point out quick's continued stylistic fault. drama. if he had said cj's assist averages are down from a year ago and shooting worse, no problem. stating he only has 5 other games with more than, while providing no perspective i find fault. style brah. quick drama through insinuating he should have more? more than who? i added a west coast shooting guard that is similarly struggling but not changing his game to increase assist total.

 

[calvin natt]

Maybe Stotts could see that the questions were going to eventually result in him saying something negative about one of his players and he didn’t want to throw CJ under the bus. Terry didn’t want drama and tension around the team like any normal coach. If you are being interviewed and feel you are being baited into saying something you don’t want to say you pull the plug. We are getting JQs side. Wonder that Stotts would say. It’s that simple.

 

[Chris Craig]

Isn’t working? We have a decent record including three straight OT wins with one in GS!

We have a decent record. Yes, we had three straight wins. Yes, including GS. But, lets not pretend there aren't problems with the bench. Sometimes Curry has a good game. Sometimes Meyers. Sometimes. There is no cosistency to the bench. They average 45 points a game and often don't reach their average. The Starters need more help from them.

 

[CupWizier]

It does. That and taking responsibility for the failure of his team. They play his system which isn't working. He is still using a bench lineup that isn't working. (He did replace Stauskas with Layman I will give him credit for that.) The bench is weak and until Olshey gets help, Stotts needs to stagger starters better. When his team loses he has to be ready to answer for it. His reaction last night shows Quick was right, and he didn't want to answer to it because he would have to take responsibility.

Well, we disagree and the only one that knows for sure is Stotts. He has never come across as the type that is concerned with his reputation, but one that will publicly stand up for his players.

 

[Chris Craig]

Maybe Stotts could see that the questions were going to eventually result in him saying something negative about one of his players and he didn’t want to throw CJ under the bus. Terry didn’t want drama and tension around the team like any normal coach. If you are being interviewed and feel you are being baited into saying something you don’t want to say you pull the plug. We are getting JQs side. Wonder that Stotts would say. It’s that simple.

Sometimes a coach needs to call out a player. A coach needs to hold himself and his players accountable.

 

[calvin natt]

Sometimes a coach needs to call out a player. A coach needs to hold himself and his players accountable.

In public? Disagree. Totally. I mean, if you don’t give a shit about the player or the ramifications of it sure.

 

[riverman]

Stotts is not the mouthpiece of the disgruntled fans....he's a guy already thinking about the next game. I doubt if he's given any of that interview a second thought...he knows what CJ is going through..doesn't need to explain it to Quick or highlight it in the nat'l media

 

[calvin natt]

When I was just out of college I worked for a team in the media relations dept. I sat there next to opposing coaches night in and night out and listened to their answers from media guys after losses. I can’t believe more didn’t snap. Also, today’s media would cringe at what it was like to grill an unhappy Jerry Sloan, George Karl, Pat Riley or Rick Adelman. Jesus. Makes Stotts look like Mr Rogers.

 

[TBpup]

In public? Disagree. Totally. I mean, if you don’t give a shit about the player or the ramifications of it sure.

I don't see where he said "in public".

Stotts is used to the softball questions most of the softy lob to him. He finally got a tough one with a legit follow up that his answer brought on....and he didn't like it. That's fine....but the questions were very fair given how CJ has played on both offense and defense.

 

[calvin natt]

I don't see where he said "in public".

Stotts is used to the softball questions most of the softy lob to him. He finally got a tough one with a legit follow up that his answer brought on....and he didn't like it. That's fine....but the questions were very fair given how CJ has played on both offense and defense.

Unless he specifically said “this is off the record” then any answer you give a reporter becomes public. ?

 

[Chris Craig]

I don't see where he said "in public".

Stotts is used to the softball questions most of the softy lob to him. He finally got a tough one with a legit follow up that his answer brought on....and he didn't like it. That's fine....but the questions were very fair given how CJ has played on both offense and defense.

Yes. The questions were fair. Stotts could have answered them in a way that spoke to how CJ is playing, calling him out, while still being respectful to CJ. They weren't hard questions.

 

[riverman]

 

[riverman]

 

[riverman]

Those Pop videos were for perspective....

 

[wizenheimer]

Klay doesn’t have the ball in his hands as much as CJ. Their roles are different. Can’t compare them.

sure you can. klay averages 18.7 shots per game, cj 18.0

that's remedial and devoid of context. Raw FGA's don't mean much at all

at the end of last season, Blazers Edge looked at this for 'frequent' shooters:

https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/4/...all-hog-does-it-matter-portland-trail-blazers

I'll let Scalma speak for himself but I think this is what he was referring to. Klay is a catch-n-shoot master whereas CJ is a ball-stopper. Notice that CJ was far and away the "leader" in the amount of time he held the ball in each possession and the number of dribbles he has each possession.

that list really illustrates why more and more people are comparing CJ to Jamal Crawford. They both pound the ball a ton and burn thru shot clocks like crazy.

again, in a discussion comparing CJ and Klay in terms of ball-dominance, using FGA's to gauge anything is useless. They are completely different players. If you extrapolate (touches X avg. seconds/touch), Klay on average will hold the ball for 100.5 seconds a game; meanwhile, on average, Cj will hold the ball for 267 seconds a game...close to 2.7 times as much. Klay averages 2.1 assists while CJ averages 2.7. In other words, CJ has the ball 265% more than Klay but only averages 29% more assists. Put another way, it's completely idiotic to try and justify CJ's assist numbers by using Klay as the counterpoint

 

[TBpup]

Can we PLEASE not compare Pop and Stotts as they are so far apart in coaching acumen and accomplishment.

 

[KingSpeed]

Stotts is not the mouthpiece of the disgruntled fans....he's a guy already thinking about the next game. I doubt if he's given any of that interview a second thought...he knows what CJ is going through..doesn't need to explain it to Quick or highlight it in the nat'l media

This.

 

[Chris Craig]

See there is a way to handle it

 

[Chris Craig]

Can we PLEASE not compare Pop and Stotts as they are so far apart in coaching acumen and accomplishment.

Its the difference between what to do and what not to do.

 

[Blazer4ever]

You have to see that Dame and CJ have absolutely no chemistry and no cooperation.
We're playing them together to maximize their impact but they're not playing together, they're on the floor at the same time, for the same team, but they're not passing to one another, have absolutely no game between them, we either go to CJ or we go to Dame, it's never the two of them playing together and feeding off each other.
Until this changes we won't be anywhere close to reaching our potential, it's like having a handicapped team

 

[KingSpeed]

Yes. The questions were fair. Stotts could have answered them in a way that spoke to how CJ is playing, calling him out, while still being respectful to CJ. They weren't hard questions.

Calling CJ out to a reporter accomplishes nothing positive.

 

[TBpup]

Calling CJ out to a reporter accomplishes nothing positive.

By saying what he did and then not being able to provide an example, it may have been worse.

 

[riverman]

Can we PLEASE not compare Pop and Stotts as they are so far apart in coaching acumen and accomplishment.

coach and media....I think it's more than relevant....you can dig these up on any coach...no coach likes to be baited in an interview and Pop is considered the Gold Standard for great coaching so he's completely stiffed reporters in the past...Stotts rarely has...doesn't mean to me the Blazers only allow softball questions...it means he's not going to vent about CJ

 

[Chris Craig]

Calling CJ out to a reporter accomplishes nothing positive.

If a player isn't playing well it should be able to be talked about. I'm not saying Stotts should say terrible nasty things about CJ. He should be able to say CJ is shooting poorly, he is in a slump and he will get out of. And in answering that be able to say yeah he can pass the ball to his teamates when he is missing, get other guys open shots. As the coach I need to help him figure that out. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[wizenheimer]

Those Pop videos were for perspective....

perspective?

ok then, here's some more: Popovich has made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs 15 times; Stotts has done that twice. Popovich has made it past the 2nd round 10 times; Stotts never has. Popovich has made it to the finals 6 times and has won 5 championships. Stotts has watched on TV

 

[riverman]

perspective?

ok then, here's some more: Popovich has made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs 15 times; Stotts has done that twice. Popovich has made it past the 2nd round 10 times; Stotts never has. Popovich has made it to the finals 6 times and has won 5 championships. Stotts has watched on TV

The subject is coach and media or maybe I'm in the wrong thread....context

 

[calvin natt]

If a player isn't playing well it should be able to be talked about. I'm not saying Stotts should say terrible nasty things about CJ. He should be able to say CJ is shooting poorly, he is in a slump and he will get out of. And in answering that be able to say yeah he can pass the ball to his teamates when he is missing, get other guys open shots. As the coach I need to help him figure that out. There is nothing wrong with that.

Did he not say “we wish he was shooting better”? What do you want him to say? “He scores but not much else. He isn’t very good”. Maybe lower his value around the league? Piss him off? Piss off the team? What’s the end game?

 

[calvin natt]

perspective?

ok then, here's some more: Popovich has made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs 15 times; Stotts has done that twice. Popovich has made it past the 2nd round 10 times; Stotts never has. Popovich has made it to the finals 6 times and has won 5 championships. Stotts has watched on TV

Nobody is comparing them as coaches or their resumes. It was related to media.