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http://www.nmmlaw.com/pdf/FMP - Morals - Seton Hall - Nov. 2009.pdf

41. National Football League Collective Bargaining Agreement, available at http://www.nflplayers.com/images/fckINFL%2OCOLLECTIVE%2OBARGAINING A GREEMENT%202006%20-%202012.pdf [hereinafter NFL CBAI. Under § 11 of the NFL Player Contract, a football club may terminate the player contract “f at any time, in the sole judgment of the Club,... [thel Player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by the Club to adversely affect or reflect on [the] Club Id. at 252.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
LOL. Again, step away from the mirror, FAMS. :lol:

Why else would you possibly not want the system to play out? Why would you not want people to gather the facts before acting? Why else would you be calling him guilty without any information? And taking cheap shots at Harbaugh for not treating McDonald as guilty until proven innocent? I can't think of any other reason. :dunno:

Again, if we acted before we have all the facts, someone like Lynch would have been punished for something that proved to be bogus. Pablo Sandoval (SF Giants) was accused in something and the "facts" that initially came out ended up being completely bogus. How many times have athletes been accused of something that later proved false? If McDonald is guilty (even if there are no charges, if there's real evidence of abuse), I'll be happy to see him go. I'll judge both he and Harbaugh at that time, from the facts that come out and from the response of action from Harbaugh.

Demanding anything else is hasty and ridiculous.
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I'm sure it's possible that "information" and "facts" come out that say Ray McDonald had nothing to do with the bruises and marks left on a pregnant woman

But common sense says that'd be a complete joke. He was arrested and charged and there are no other suspects that I know of.

Try being a human being instead of a diehard fan for once.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
LOL, jibber-jabber and talk random ish because you're just talking to talk at this point. It's clear you don't understand how the system is supposed to work.

I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're even talking about. It's clear you're hating to hate because you have a hard-on of hat apparently for the Niners. However that works. Kinda like the hard-on of hate for Batum.
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LOL

I see you replied to my post, came back 2 hours later and replied to the same post

You're obviously on edge right now.
 
RoyToy said:
But common sense says that'd be a complete joke. He was arrested and charged and there are no other suspects that I know of.
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He actually hasn't been charged with anything yet. He was arrested per procedure when police investigate a domestic disturbance and see visible marks on one of the two. The police are still investigating and will then turn the case over to the DA's office and then it will be decided what, if anything, to charge him with.
 
Me on edge.

<yawn>

LOL.

I'm pretty sure RoyToy and PapaG are one and the same.
 
Minstrel said:
He actually hasn't been charged with anything yet. He was arrested per procedure when police investigate a domestic disturbance and see visible marks on one of the two. The police are still investigating and will then turn the case over to the DA's office and then it will be decided what, if anything, to charge him with.
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I heard wrong then.
 
Minstrel said:
He actually hasn't been charged with anything yet. He was arrested per procedure when police investigate a domestic disturbance and see visible marks on one of the two. The police are still investigating and will then turn the case over to the DA's office and then it will be decided what, if anything, to charge him with.
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San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Ray McDonald promised that “the truth will come out” when he was released from jail on $25,000 bail Sunday after being charged with felony domestic violence.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...est-tests-nfls-new-rule-on-domestic-violence/

So what do I believe?
 
Minstrel said:
He actually hasn't been charged with anything yet. He was arrested per procedure when police investigate a domestic disturbance and see visible marks on one of the two. The police are still investigating and will then turn the case over to the DA's office and then it will be decided what, if anything, to charge him with.
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You can't reason with dumb posts. He already played it like he was there. I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying give the dude due process. There have been possible "injuries" in accusations against other athletes, he'll, other random people, and they've turned out to be false.

I'm not arguing for my team, as dude (stupidly) intimates. I majored in criminal justice. The system is not perfect, it is no without flaw, but I believe in it, overall.

It very well could be Ray is guilty. Again, if that's the circumstance, he'll be gone and I'm good with that. But the American way is supposedly innocent until proven guilty. Go ahead and think it's fan-dom. It's my education, though, FAMS. Learn the law, then post.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.nmmlaw.com/pdf/FMP - Morals - Seton Hall - Nov. 2009.pdf

41. National Football League Collective Bargaining Agreement, available at http://www.nflplayers.com/images/fckINFL%2OCOLLECTIVE%2OBARGAINING A GREEMENT%202006%20-%202012.pdf [hereinafter NFL CBAI. Under § 11 of the NFL Player Contract, a football club may terminate the player contract “f at any time, in the sole judgment of the Club,... [thel Player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by the Club to adversely affect or reflect on [the] Club Id. at 252.
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The 49ers reserve the right to send any player home that is a distraction or otherwise making their organization look bad

Ray McDonald seems like a good candidate
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Lloyd Carr's 2004 team was the last Conference Champ at Michigan. Just found it online.

The 2006 had a chance to go to the BCS Championship, but lost to Ohio State (in what was being billed as "The Game of the Century") and ended up in the 2007 Rose Bowl, where they lost to USC.
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I was wrong, they didn't win the B1G with Hoke but they beat VaTech in the sugar bowl in 2012.
 
Anyone else see John's presser on the matter?

<SMH>

Dude, you've got evidence, you had it to begin with, DV ain't cool at all, he fucking cold-cocked her. Give us something. Don't play it off like its nothing. I lost a lot of respect for him after seeing his PC.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I was wrong, they didn't win the B1G with Hoke but they beat VaTech in the sugar bowl in 2012.
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Yeah. The one bright season in several disappointing seasons. I thought they'd turned a corner, but I'm not sure after last season. We'll see, but barring a terrible 2014, Hoke has earned a little bit of a leash (at least through next year, again, barring a decent 2014).
 
RoyToy said:
I'm sure it's possible that "information" and "facts" come out that say Ray McDonald had nothing to do with the bruises and marks left on a pregnant woman

But common sense says that'd be a complete joke. He was arrested and charged and there are no other suspects that I know of.

Try being a human being instead of a diehard fan for once.
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So you think someone should be fired immediately if they are accused of something? You're comfortable with that? I don't care if it's obvious that he committed a crime or not. Wait and see if he's actually charged with something. Good grief. Should the Niners have cut Kaepernick as soon as that girl accused him of a crime? I get that right now everyone is out to get anyone accused of domestic violence, but we have this thing in America called due process. Innocent until proven guilty. Do you think someone should just be fired and cast out as soon as they're accused of something? He might be guilty, and if he is he should be cut, but you have to at least give him a chance to prove his innocence before you put him in front of a firing squad.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So you think someone should be fired immediately if they are accused of something? You're comfortable with that? I don't care if it's obvious that he committed a crime or not. Wait and see if he's actually charged with something. Good grief. Should the Niners have cut Kaepernick as soon as that girl accused him of a crime? I get that right now everyone is out to get anyone accused of domestic violence, but we have this thing in America called due process. Innocent until proven guilty. Do you think someone should just be fired and cast out as soon as they're accused of something? He might be guilty, and if he is he should be cut, but you have to at least give him a chance to prove his innocence before you put him in front of a firing squad.
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Funny thing about the Kaep situation is he wasn't there. It supposedly was a confrontation with a C-awks player that lead to the police call. No matter, none of the players were involved in a crime, but if we'd have jumped on the situation without due process, a lot of players are tarnished.
 
Rice knocked out a tiny woman and let her fall. Had he hit her at a different angle or had she fallen a different way or had her head been tilted a bit she could be dead.
Anyone here making excuses for him needs to turn in their man card.
 
MARIS61 said:
Rice knocked out a tiny woman and let her fall. Had he hit her at a different angle or had she fallen a different way or had her head been tilted a bit she could be dead.
Anyone here making excuses for him needs to turn in their man card.
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You've clearly not read a single post in this thread, but responded as though you had. Par for the course, I suppose.

I've seen nobody defend Rice, nor make any real excuse on his behalf. Dude got what he deserved. The only thing I've seen is people complaining the way it's been handled, the double-jeopardy (myself included).
 
I'm not defending Rice at all, but I'm curious what the reaction would be if a skinny/small man hit him? The argument that's being made by a few here is that she posed no threat to him. So I'm curious how people would feel if a skinny guy hit someone as big as Rice, would you be outraged if he knocked him out, or would you be saying "oh shit! He got knocked the fuck out!"

Actually, I'm also curious how people would feel if she kicked him in the balls first. I read a thread on Reddit recently about a guy who claimed to be kicked in the balls by a woman completely unprovoked, someone he didn't even know, and when she attempted to do it a second time he pushed her away. Do you think a man is justified to defend himself against a woman, and if so, what would the circumstances be? A shot to the nuts can do permanent damage to a man. It can cause serious damage that requires surgery. I don't care how big a man is, a shot to the balls can bring him to his knees.
 
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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
You've clearly not read a single post in this thread, but responded as though you had. Par for the course, I suppose.

I've seen nobody defend Rice, nor make any real excuse on his behalf. Dude got what he deserved. The only thing I've seen is people complaining the way it's been handled, the double-jeopardy (myself included).
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I'm really, really honestly confused why anybody reads and responds to Maris.
 
RR7 said:
I'm really, really honestly confused why anybody reads and responds to Maris.
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I pretty much just skip over anything he posts. They're usually irrelevant to the conversation.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Who?
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the poster you were responding to when I quoted you? SlyPokerDog is just a blatant troll, and am always confused why he lasts and people like you engage him at all in an y sort of serious way thinking he means whatever the fuck he says.
 
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RR7 said:
the poster you were responding to when I quoted you? SlyPokerDog is just a blatant troll, and am always confused why he lasts and people like you engage him at all in an y sort of serious way thinking he means whatever the fuck he says.
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He was making a funny.
 
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RR7 said:
the poster you were responding to when I quoted you? SlyPokerDog is just a blatant troll, and am always confused why he lasts and people like you engage him at all in an y sort of serious way thinking he means whatever the fuck he says.
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Who?
 
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