Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

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TBpup said:
Didn't say he would be good. Said he should be able to recover as well as most against Durant....etc. Since I don't see anyone really slowing them down, so I'll take Wemby and live with the rest. Also, I don't see Porzingis, Collins and Wemby in the same conversation too often, but maybe you are finding different comparisons than I am. :cheers:
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my comparison wasn't to offensive talent. Obviously Wemby has more upside on that end of the floor than those others. If he reaches it or not depends on a lot of factors

my comparison was on defense and with lateral mobility. I've watched video of Wemby on defense. He's not fast...at all. He has average lateral mobility, at best, and his reactions seem slow. He'll improve with experience obviously, but he's miles away from matching guys like Tatum or Giannis or Siakam or Draymond. And again, having him that far away from the basket on defense guarding perimeter players is diluting his strength which would be that length in the paint and around the rim

IMO, any forward good at dribble-drive will eat Wemby's lunch. He'll probably have better luck against PF's like Markkanen, Mobley, Christian Wood, etc.
 
I for one love that we're already spending time breaking down guys we'll find in 2 days we have no chance at ever seeing on our team.
 
Predator said:
The least valuable position in all of basketball, yay.

Meanwhile at 2 of the most important positions, we suck ass.

Net negative IMO.
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The last 5 MVPs have all been over 7’

But what, in your opinion, is the most valuable. I personally think it’s a wing
 
Mediocre Man said:
The last 5 MVPs have all been over 7’

But what, in your opinion, is the most valuable. I personally think it’s a wing
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I didn’t say height, I said position… and Giannis doesn’t play C. Lopez does.

So the last 3 MVPs have been centers and how many championships do they have to account for that?

The most important is wing players IMO.

My latest and greatest hot take:

I’ll take a borderline all star at the 3/4 over a multi time all star at the 1 or 5.

(note ALL star and not SUPER star)
 
Predator said:
I didn’t say height, I said position… and Giannis doesn’t play C. Lopez does.

So the last 3 MVPs have been centers and how many championships do they have to account for that?

The most important is wing players IMO.

My latest and greatest hot take:

I’ll take a borderline all star at the 3/4 over a multi time all star at the 1 or 5.

(note ALL star and not SUPER star)
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I’m with you
 
The most valuable position in the league is still the 5 it's just a 5 that can do a whole helluva lot more than most that post on here are used to a 5 (except Bill Walton in 1976-77) doing.

Size still matters and Embiid has all of the skills and size.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yet, apparently not enough of them to get to a conference final
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When Embidd was guarding Tatum a good portion of the time you see that his energy level was depleting.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
Yet, apparently not enough of them to get to a conference final
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The Tatums didn't beat the Embiids, the Celtics beat the 76ers. While Tatum went off in game 7 after stinking it up the two games prior, they won the series mostly because the sum of their parts were better, especially with Embiid hobbled with his latest injury. He doesn't tweek his knee again and likely they close out the Celtics prior to last night.

Predator said:
Giannis doesn’t play C. Lopez does. So the last 3 MVPs have been centers and how many championships do they have to account for that?
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Giannis often logs significant time on the court with Brook Lopez sitting, where he's guarding the other team's biggest Big... what position is he playing then? Winning in the playoffs is mostly about talent, both individual and overall. The MVP is a regular season award. If an MVP is injured in the playoffs to the point they are missing games (Embiid & Giannis), that matters a whole lot. If the 2nd and 3rd best players on the MVP's team are out with injury (Nuggets), that matters a whole lot too regardless of what position the MVP plays. Your point about positional importance is debatable at best, but it pales in comparison to health. That 3 of the 4 teams still playing feature All Star stud centers pokes a pretty gaping hole in your theory that Centers lack value in the modern game.

STOMP
 
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Blazers get rights to draft Victor. Send Ant / multiple future 1st to Nets for Mikal Bridges. Sign Seth Curry to bolster bench shooting. This is the Mother Freakin' Way.
 
I wonder if the best opportunities won't be until the trade deadline then? Or post-season? Would Portland be more likely to get who they want if they wait?

"This is all prelude to I think the next year in the NBA could be an unbelievable period of superstar and star player movement because you've just got a lot of sort of roiling situations," said Lowe on his podcast. "You have one year left before the really harsh trade rules kick into place after the 2023-24 season where teams over the second apron, like the Clippers, for instance, cannot even aggregate salaries. They can't add up money to bring in a big money player. That's starting after next season.

"I think we could see a ton of movement in the offseason and up to the deadline. And a ton of big names moving. That's not to say Embiid, but I think this going to be a hot and heavy offseason and people should buckle up."

Beyond the future of Embiid, there are also uncertain situations facing the likes of Damian Lillard, Luka Doncic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Karl-Anthony Towns, Trae Young, Pascal Siakam, Julius Randle, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, DeMar DeRozan, Zach LaVine, Bradley Beal, OG Anunoby and Deandre Ayton, amongst others.
 
How about this?


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We trade a player and the #23 to Chicago to open up our futures.
We send our #3 pick and a 2 future firsts to Phili, and we send a couple firsts to Brooklyn.

Portland:
Embiid
Bridges

Phili:
Nurk/Little/Watford/#3/2 future 1sts.

Brooklyn:
Simons/Johnson/2 future firsts


Dame/Sharpe/Bridges/Grant/Embiid

Mays/Thybulle/Reddish/Knox/Eubanks


That's close. Need a couple more big bodies.

I don't know the rules on trading future firsts. Could we attach two future firsts to each trade?
 

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illmatic99 said:
Simmons brought up Simons and 3 for Brown on his podcast.

At least people are talking about it.
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illmatic99 said:
Simmons brought up Simons and 3 for Brown on his podcast.

At least people are talking about it.
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Do you think Brown can play the three? In the trade above your post, i almost went after Brown instead of Bridges, but if Sharpe is going to be starting at the two….
Can Dame/Sharpe/Brown work? I went after Bridges because i think he can come cheaper and would likely fit better with Dame and Sharpe?
 
BlazerBender said:
Do you think Brown can play the three? In the trade above your post, i almost went after Brown instead of Bridges, but if Sharpe is going to be starting at the two….
Can Dame/Sharpe/Brown work? I went after Bridges because i think he can come cheaper and would likely fit better with Dame and Sharpe?
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I think Brown comes cheaper since he will be a FA and clearly is not happy in Boston
I think we have to include Nas to make the contracts work, but it would allow Boston to include Pritchard. (And we will need a backup PG)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think Brown comes cheaper since he will be a FA and clearly is not happy in Boston
I think we have to include Nas to make the contracts work, but it would allow Boston to include Pritchard. (And we will need a backup PG)
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I always thought Bridges was bigger but he is smaller than brown, just has a 1” longer wingspan. So my thoughts are erroneous.
If Brown is an easier get, it leaves more to go after embiid with.
 
BlazerBender said:
Do you think Brown can play the three? In the trade above your post, i almost went after Brown instead of Bridges, but if Sharpe is going to be starting at the two….
Can Dame/Sharpe/Brown work? I went after Bridges because i think he can come cheaper and would likely fit better with Dame and Sharpe?
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Brown can definitely play the three.

"Brown measured a terrific 6-6 ½ without shoes, giving him ample size for a NBA small forward, to go along with a 6-11 ½ wingspan. He also weighs 217 pounds."
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think Brown comes cheaper since he will be a FA and clearly is not happy in Boston
I think we have to include Nas to make the contracts work, but it would allow Boston to include Pritchard. (And we will need a backup PG)
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Would only need someone like Keon but sure Nas is fine. Also wouldnt need any other fillers if we wait til July 1 and complete the trade a week after the draft and signing our pick.

I also think this is in play only if Charlotte takes Miller and leaves Scoot up for grabs.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Brown can definitely play the three.

"Brown measured a terrific 6-6 ½ without shoes, giving him ample size for a NBA small forward, to go along with a 6-11 ½ wingspan. He also weighs 217 pounds."
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Yeah i looked them up after posting. I though Brown was a couple inches shorter than Bridges
 
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