Repealing Obamacare

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So........where are all the usual suspects telling us that this Ryancare failure is fake news......and all Obama's fault????

 

[Chris Craig]

He had a plan because he knew so much better than the generals. But oddly, he then had to wait for the generals to give him a plan. And it turns out it's the same plan as Obama, only perhaps with more civilian casualties.

Well Trump is always right

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I agree with Trump!

 

[MarAzul]

this shit wreck is on them

Really?

Well the Dems own Obamacare. That's what have, for sure, for sure. And in a whole lot places, that mean they have nothing.
Those that sat on their hands, own that too.

 

[MarAzul]

Nobody won

ummmm, I just saw Nancy and Denny take a bow. Sure seemed like a victory party.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I see it as a win win situation. Was not fond of what I knew of the bill. I believed it was still too encompassing. I would like to see it repealed period and let the free market dictate pricing. Allow block grants to the states to grow medicare IF illegals are no ;longer given free health care.

At this point, obummercare will implode, not an opinion but generally agreed upon by the experts. Let the Dems burn.

Next time around, it will be a better bill. Where all the angst comes from is Trump supporters expected to see the same ram it through style that the Dems have been able to preform. The GOP is not as unified, but this is how good law making should be. Like Newt is fond of saying, it is like making sausage, not a pretty process but the end result is better when it is done right.

 

[MarAzul]

The republicans don't need the dems to do anything.

I would sort of like to like that, but I don't like it much.

 

[riverman]

Well the Dems own Obamacare

Right now everybody owns Obamacare..it's actually American Health Care....insurance companies gross costs for coverageare your problem and Tort reform is their problem but the Obama scapegoat hate is strong with you....

 

[riverman]

Sure seemed like a victory party

I'm taking a bow too and I'm not a Democrat.....avoiding disaster is a good thing...they didn't propose a bill and win...they defeated a very bad chop job by Trump's team that would have hurt millions upon millions of poor people and seniors while charging more from the middle class than they paid previously..it was a package for 1%ers

 

[MarAzul]

I see it as a win win situation. Was not fond of what I knew of the bill. I believed it was still too encompassing. I would like to see it repealed period and let the free market dictate pricing. Allow block grants to the states to grow medicare IF illegals are no ;longer given free health care.

At this point, obummercare will implode, not an opinion but generally agreed upon by the experts. Let the Dems burn.

Next time around, it will be a better bill. Where all the angst comes from is Trump supporters expected to see the same ram it through style that the Dems have been able to preform. The GOP is not as unified, but this is how good law making should be. Like Newt is fond of saying, it is like making sausage, not a pretty process but the end result is better when it is done right.

I pretty much agree with you. I didn't like this bill at all, it was way too much like Obamacare with a new paint job. Neither free market , nor National healthcare. Simply an attempt at commingling the two.

But Geez, this is a slow friggin way to work.

 

[MarAzul]

scapegoat hate is strong with you

You fuckin right. It fucked a lot of people. Don't go their again.

 

[stampedehero]

This Congress and its Dorf president is as ______________ (fill in the blank) as it gets.

 

[stampedehero]

The US Congress is well organized, prepared to embark on a project and capable of running this country.

 

[stampedehero]

"Trust Me. I know what I started." Oh, By the way, My tie is worth more than the mortgages on your measly homes, you pathetic citizens"..

 

[MarAzul]

Victory !

So this is what Victory feels like? But...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/24/watc...i-talks-after-gop-pulls-health-care-bill.html

 

[Rastapopoulos]

At this point, obummercare will implode, not an opinion but generally agreed upon by the experts.

That is flat out false. Obamacare is far from perfect, but it is absolutely not in a "death spiral." Of course, it can be SABOTAGED, which is no doubt what the Republicans will now embark on.

Next time around, it will be a better bill.

You're sweet. They had EIGHT YEARS. The only way it would be a better bill is if they went single payer.

 

[stampedehero]

Right now everybody owns Obamacare..it's actually American Health Care....insurance companies gross costs for coverageare your problem and Tort reform is their problem but the Obama scapegoat hate is strong with you....

"Take out attorneys and lower costs"....... William Shakespeare

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[MarAzul]

That is flat out false.

I could say, stand by. But that's already too late. Open your eyes! Now appropriate.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This is because
(a) he didn't really understand healthcare (fucking obvious from everything he's said about it)
(b) he figures the blame can be aimed at Ryan/the Democrats, so it's nothing to him

 

[MarAzul]

I'm taking a bow too

hurt millions upon millions of poor people and seniors

Well, I hope someone is proud of your moment to take a bow.
I do recall your inability to acknowledge the the hurt millions of seniors endured with the ACA. Million of poor people too. I have spoken in here about how that happen to many many also.
You could not accept that first hand report either. So take your bow.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Victory !

So this is what Victory feels like? But...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/24/watc...i-talks-after-gop-pulls-health-care-bill.html

these clowns are so short sighted..let is burn, the Dems will be spinning their own words soon...

 

[MarAzul]

these clowns are so short sighted..let is burn, the Dems will be spinning their own words soon...

I expect it will be way before their have an offer ready to fix anything. Might not even get to finish the victory lap.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

and Tort reform

I've noticed a few posts from you about Tort reform.

You need to watch this when you have the time.

 

[donkiez]

That is flat out false. Obamacare is far from perfect, but it is absolutely not in a "death spiral." Of course, it can be SABOTAGED, which is no doubt what the Republicans will now embark on.



You're sweet. They had EIGHT YEARS. The only way it would be a better bill is if they went single payer.

The Republicans have been sabotaging obamacare for 8 years. If they spent that time working with dems to fix obamacare rather than making sure it fails then we wouldnt be in this mess today. So today the republicans took ownership of obamacares future success or failure. If they cant get their shit together in the next 2-4 years then there is no way they can seriously keep blaming Obama. The worse things get the more its now their fault and only their fault.

 

[Chris Craig]

Really?

Well the Dems own Obamacare. That's what have, for sure, for sure. And in a whole lot places, that mean they have nothing.
Those that sat on their hands, own that too.

Obamacare is Shitty, there are a lot of problems with it that need to be fixed. The Republican 'affordable care act' or Trumpcare wasn't even feasible. It was a pile of shit far worse than even Obamacare, that would have raised rates to percentages impossible to pay, millions would be without health care, and would be fined because they are required to have it (before you bring it up I know obamacare requires you to have insurance too) it would be the exact opposite of what Trump promised. But, he was backing it anyway, not because he wanted to make amerixa great again for the middle and lower classes, but because he wanted to look like he had gotten something done. I for one am not going to pay over twice my monthly income for insurance. What were the Democrats supposed to do, vote for the affordable care act, which is a lie in it's very name, affordable my ass. And they weren't just sitting around, but rather fighting against this horrendous bill, and ready to vote no on it.

 

[barfo]