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I think this is nonsense.
I'm not asking for your approval....I need several thousands of dollars worth of dental work here that would cost me hundreds of dollars elsewhere and yes.....it's a choice.....but policy has put me in a position to make that choice when I believe it should be something I could save money doing at home instead of outsourcing the work.
 
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/29/house-passes-medical-malpractice-tort-reform-bill/

House Passes Medical Malpractice Tort Reform Bill

WASHINGTON — The House passed medical tort reform legislation Wednesday that is intended to help lower the cost of health insurance by lessening the burden of medical lawsuits.

Proposed by Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King, the Protecting Access to Care Act (H.R. 1215), the bill passed with 218 yeas and 210 nays. The bill caps medical malpractice lawsuits by restricting plaintiff non-economic damages to $250,000. Juries may not be informed of this limitation.

“The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated that passage of King’s ‘Protecting Access to Care Act’ would save federal taxpayers at least $50 billion over a ten-year period. In addition, the CBO has estimated that King’s reforms would lower premiums for medical malpractice insurance by an average of 25 percent to 30 percent,” the Iowa congressman said in a statement.
This is good news...and as a fellow Iowan, I approve.
 
I hope the Republicans come to their senses and simply repeal the Obama care. Undo the damn taxes and mandates. They can not heal the wounds made but we can stop doing more damage.
Replace is stupid in the current meaning. They need to leave the Insurance industry alone and see if they can return to offering a useful product, that is helpful to the buyers, without government interference. Some additional legislation would be helpful to allow insurance marketing across state lines. Perhaps even prohibit states from taxing healthcare insurance premiums like Oregon just slapped on. That sure as hell makes it more difficult for people struggling to get insurance.

Health savings accounts capability would also help some people, perhaps even better than insurance. Then perhaps just catastrophic insurance would be necessary. Exempting people's homes from being leaned would also be a good idea. Returning to this period would be wise, it changed in the 70s or 80s.
 
Can you spot the lie?

This is from 2016, before Trump was elected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/upshot/rising-obamacare-rates-what-you-need-to-know.html

By REED ABELSON and MARGOT SANGER-KATZ OCT. 25, 2016


Obamacare rates are going way up. The latest estimate from the federal government is that the average midlevel Obamacare plan, the most popular choice, will cost about 22 percent more in 2017 than it did in 2016. This is based on data from 39 states where people sign up through the HealthCare.gov website and some preliminary data from four other states and the District of Columbia.
 
This is good news...and as a fellow Iowan, I approve.
Anything Steve "Clash of Civilizations" King proposes is instantly suspect. Repubs always blame rising healthcare costs on "frivolous lawsuits" mainly because the healthcare industry donates to Repubs while lawyers tend to donate to Dems. I'd like to see any evidence that lawsuits are driving up healthcare.
 
I'd like to see any evidence that lawsuits are driving up healthcare.
My neighbor retired from being an emergency room surgeon in frustration from law suits...she could explain it better than I can but after I listened to her take on TORT reform, I was convinced...I don't believe it's a partisan conspiracy, I believe it is an ambulance chasing issue that has sparked health care increases in costs and doctors fear of being tied up in court for trying to save some crackheads life in many, many cases. Big pharma as well....insurance companies have made out like bandits in my life's contributions....I've paid way more than I've ever received in care here in the states. In Taiwan it was the opposite...family insured for 20 bucks a month and national health care covered almost anything we needed with minimal copays....I was quarantined in a hospital for 2 weeks with a flesh eating bacteria I got swimming in the ocean on a scrape.....they saved my life....my copay was 800 bucks ......that wouldn't cover one day in a hospital here. Our healthcare system has been broken for a long, long time...if an airborne virus ever breaks out here....it'll be a wake up call for the privileged who don't care if poor folks outside have access to sanitation or health care
 
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Anything Steve "Clash of Civilizations" King proposes is instantly suspect. Repubs always blame rising healthcare costs on "frivolous lawsuits" mainly because the healthcare industry donates to Repubs while lawyers tend to donate to Dems. I'd like to see any evidence that lawsuits are driving up healthcare.

The actual cost of the lawsuits only drives up the cost of malpractice insurance, which is ultimately paid by the patients. Doctors have to pay that insurance and eat.

On top of that, the doctors want to avoid getting sued, or losing if they are. So they run every test in the book to cover their asses.

That's what litigation does to medicine.
 
My neighbor retired from being an emergency room surgeon in frustration from law suits...she could explain it better than I can but after I listened to her take on TORT reform, I was convinced...I don't believe it's a partisan conspiracy, I believe it is an ambulance chasing issue that has sparked health care increases in costs and doctors fear of being tied up in court for trying to save some crackheads life in many, many cases.
An alternative view.
 
Utter nonsense. The government runs up about that much less debt. We're already soaking the rich.
Can't you do better than "utter nonsense"? What about "poppycock" or "monkeyshines"?

And if they're still rich, then we're not soaking them enough.
 
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/340570-cruz-plan-could-be-key-to-unlocking-healthcare-votes

Cruz plan could be key to unlocking healthcare votes

The fate of ObamaCare repeal-and-replace could hinge on an amendment from Sen. Ted Cruz.

The Texas senator is pushing for a provision that would allow insurers to sell plans that do not comply with ObamaCare insurance regulations, so long as they also sell plans that comply with those rules. Cruz says giving insurers a path around the regulations should allow them to offer some plans at a lower cost.

It's unclear whether the amendment will be added to the Senate bill, or even whether it will pass muster under budgetary rules.

But the amendment could be the key to ensuring that the legislation passes both the House and the Senate.
 
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So now FOUR Republican senators have come out against Trumpcare? (Not even counting McCain, who may take weeks to recover from serious surgery.)
But... but... I don't understand! Denny's already said "Buh Bye" to Obamacare TWICE!
 
Rachel Maddow and other msnbc host trying so hard to hold back laughter and joy at the apparent failure to repeal. Get ready for a deafening shuffling of papers by RM while half-grinning into the camera to show you that she knows whats up, that she was so right all this time...
 
But... but... I don't understand! Denny's already said "Buh Bye" to Obamacare TWICE!

One day they will make a movie about this. It will be called "The Long Buh Bye".

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Curious move. They didn't do that first because they didn't have close to enough votes for "repeal and delay." Now, after their not-very-well-veiled attempt at gutting Obamacare fails, they go back to something that was even further from passage?

It doesn't even make sense as a symbolic gesture for their base--if most of the Republican senators vote against it, how does that help them with their base?
 

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