Ric Bucher Says Portland Is The Best Destination For LeBron This Summer

[LayneStaley]

It would take Zach and 2 firsts if we are asking them to take Turner and Worthless Meyers.

Turner/Meyers(only 2 years of those guys and in the second they could be used in deals as expirings)/Zach/2(1st)

For

LBJ

I think they still say no.

 

[BonesJones]

So wait...
It's been said by some of you the only way for Portland to get rid of Nards or ET is if Portland were to attach a 1st rounder to them.
But now all of a sudden that LBJ would be returning for those 1st rounders, suddenly it becomes impossible.

If LBJ wants out and says trade me to Portland less I walk for nothing.
Portland has no incentive to ad CJ, Nurk, or Lillard if this were to happen.
There is no chance CLE doesn't at least consider 3 first rounders as valuable compensation.
Either way if something like this happens to get a return on LBJ they'll have to take $$ back.

You can say it's not going to happen. That lbj is going to pick a team with max money available, and that's fine.
But to all of a sudden say 3 first rounders isn't valuable compensation for a team that would have to take money back anyway is just... wrong.

Exactly. I do see their point in that the problem is definitely Cleveland wanting to be under the luxury tax. If Cleveland doesn't want to add salary, other teams with cap space/trade exceptions would definitely take Harkless and Aminu for free, and someone would take on Leonard's final 2 years for a 1st. That solves all issues.

 

[BonesJones]

It would take Zach and 2 firsts if we are asking them to take Turner and Worthless Meyers.

Turner/Meyers(only 2 years of those guys and in the second they could be used in deals as expirings)/Zach/2(1st)

For

LBJ

I think they still say no.

They wouldn't have to take both.

 

[LayneStaley]

I don’t think lbj will exactly just go where the most money is, like I’ve stated before he makes more off endorsements than nba salary, and those endorsements are better when he’s winning ships. The dude is worth 1/2 billion dollars, a few less mil a year ain’t shit plus the tax breaks in pdx more than make up for the hit he would take in Cali.

 

[LayneStaley]

They wouldn't have to take both.

I bet we would still have to give up Zach and picks with turner.

 

[BonesJones]

I bet we would still have to give up Zach and picks with turner.

Which is fine. It's LeBron. If its possible to get him here you do it.

 

[LayneStaley]

We can do what Vegas did with my raiders, free lap dances for life if lebron comes, put that on a fucking billboard.

 

[BonesJones]

I don’t think lbj will exactly just go where the most money is, like I’ve stated before he makes more off endorsements than nba salary, and those endorsements are better when he’s winning ships. The dude is worth 1/2 billion dollars, a few less mil a year ain’t shit plus the tax breaks in pdx more than make up for the hit he would take in Cali.

I don't see how money not being a factor would work against us.

 

[LayneStaley]

I don't see how money not being a factor would work against us.

Im not saying it would be, I just think that at 33 lebron isn’t gonna try to squeeze every penny out of a team, especially if it hurts signing a bench player. The dude needs more rings not more money.

 

[LayneStaley]

You can’t be the GOAT if you lost more championships than you won

 

[LayneStaley]

This is all a fantasy anyway, let’s talk about more realistic stuff like Kawhi coming here for scraps.

 

[LayneStaley]

The only way we get on Lebrons radar is if we meet GS in second round and take them 7, maybe then we have a 15-20% chance at him, maybe

 

[Sarni]

A team that has a player with a Player Option in their last year who says "I could opt in if you trade me to Portland and you get some assets to tank with or you get nothing and I go UFA"?

Aminu and Turner aren't horrible; besides w'ere already in fantasy land by even reading this thread.

Turner is abysmal for the price, he might be a decent off the bench option for $6M a year.

Aminu is of course good, he is not the problem in this trade at all.

Thing is, if a team is below the tax line then maybe, just maybe they will be tempted by getting additional draft picks (although these will be very late first round picks when LeBron comes here, they are already late without him). However Cleveland are paying huge tax bills already and would pay even more if they took Turner and Leonard. They are MUCH better off just letting LeBron go for nothing and hitting a reset button.

Look at what Clippers got back in sign-and-trade for Paul. They got several fairly decent players on good contracts and short term deals which they will be able to offset quite soon if needed. This made sense. Any deal that doesn't include CJ that we could propose to Cleveland for LeBron won't, which means we would need to create cap space to sign him. We cannot.

 

[LayneStaley]

I’m 100% cool with CJ leaving if LBJ is coming, I’ll take him to the airport.

 

[KingSpeed]

LeBron isn't going anywhere where there are other ball dominant guards. Portland has two of them so that makes it even more remote. A place like LA makes more sense because there are a ton of 3-pt shooters and Ball is a very willing passer that has been improving his shot and isn't a small guard. The idea is fun to think about but Portland doesn't have the money or the type of team that would seem to fit.

Dame and CJ are terrific off the ball because they can shoot. Insert LeBron instead of Turner. Philly is a horrible fit. Simmons can't shoot.

Also LeBron won his three titles with "ball dominant" Wade and Kyrie.

Chris Paul and Harden are a horrible fit, right?

 

[KingSpeed]

I'd get season tickets. One of my close friends is a huge LeBron (Cleveland) fan and a Portland fan. He wants him to go to Portland so bad.

They'd be expensive and gone immediately but I'd try to get some too.

 

[KingSpeed]

I’m 100% cool with CJ leaving if LBJ is coming, I’ll take him to the airport.

I disagree. CJ, Dame, and Nurk stay.

 

[BonesJones]

This is all a fantasy anyway, let’s talk about more realistic stuff like Kawhi coming here for scraps.

There's a higher chance we get LeBron than Kawhi.

 

[LayneStaley]

There's a higher chance we get LeBron than Kawhi.

I don’t use green font

 

[LayneStaley]

There is another Kawhi in the draft, we would have to trade up to 10-13 to grab him though.

 

[KingSpeed]

I don't think we should give up Aminu either. He's important part of our team. Just get LeBron and stick him in the Evan Turner role. We wouldn't even have to change our playbook. LeBron is definitely an upgrade over Turner so I'm fine with losing the picks. LeBron can do whatever he wants to do. If he wants to play in Portland with Dame/CJ/Aminu/Nurk, he will make it happen.

 

[LayneStaley]

ET/Zach/2 firsts

For

Lebron

Is that better for clev than just letting him walk? It’s one year of ET then unload him as an expiring the following year?

 

[KingSpeed]

ET/Zach/2 firsts

For

Lebron

Is that better for clev than just letting him walk? It’s one year of ET then unload him as an expiring the following year?

That's a great trade. As long as we keep our Big 4, I'm good.

 

[KingSpeed]

 

[LayneStaley]

That's a great trade. As long as we keep our Big 4, I'm good.

Does cle think that’s a great trade?

 

[LayneStaley]

We need to start our billboard campaign.

 

[theprunetang]

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We need to start our billboard campaign.

Maybe use a modern jersey though....haha

 

[LayneStaley]

Maybe use a modern jersey though....haha

I stole that from google

 

[LayneStaley]

Lebron could come here and if shit went right have his number retired in 2-3 seasons lol.

 

[KingSpeed]

Does cle think that’s a great trade?

They'll take what we give them. Cleveland took picks for LeBron from Miami.