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And how did you gather this data? Just in passing? What were the rates of this occurrence?
Each State breakdowns and the Fed have breakdowns of assistance per child, with one parent or two. Im all for assistance and I know the money doesn't cover all cost.
 
It certainly was at my school anyway. And it was very effective.

And I'd much rather have a certified teacher instructing young people an agreed upon curriculum as opposed to some volunteer at a clinic.

Come to think of it, my health class had fewer teen pregnancies than the youth group I attended.

So, in your estimation, teaching sex education in the schools would altogether eliminate the need for organizations such as Mercy Multiplied.
 
So, in your estimation, teaching sex education in the schools would altogether eliminate the need for organizations such as Mercy Multiplied.
Not at all. But teaching quality sex ed (including safe sex, birth control, teen pregnancy, STDs, abortions, etc) in schools was one of the things I mentioned. Along with the other social reforms.
 
Each State breakdowns and the Fed have breakdowns of assistance per child, with one parent or two. Im all for assistance and I know the money doesn't cover all cost.
I see this as less of an incentive and more of a problem from lack of education and opportunity. They aren't making money. They are losing SO much.
 
Some states like Texas were teaching abstinence only for a time, which obviously resulted in an increase in teen pregnancies and abortions. Though they have updated that in the last couple years.

We should probably have higher nationally recognized minimums that we teach to, but allow for states to go further if they choose.

i had no idea. That seems ridiculous.

No sure but apparently we've removed spelling.

typing. Not spelling.
 
I see this as less of an incentive and more of a problem from lack of education and opportunity. They aren't making money. They are losing SO much.
I realize that. Unfortunately it can be a generational thing. Lack of education is a key, but there has to be a greater incentive to pursue opportunities.
 
Here's what we were discussing:

I simply said that I support Mercy Multiplied, just as I've said I support The Woodson Center. In some cases, for the same reasons.

I get that. And you're free to do so.

I'd prefer to have policy which removes the need for such institutions, rather than policy which causes problems that push more people toward them.
 
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Sex Ed covers all of that. And it can cover it very thoroughly.

Doctors and health clinics can pick up where sex ed leaves off as needed.

Sex Ed will probably be the next thing after critical race theory the Republicans go after in school.

"They're teaching out kids to have sex!"

The humanity
 
I simply said that I support Mercy Multiplied, just as I've said I support The Woodson Center. In some cases, for the same reasons.
I get that. And you're free to do so.

I'd prefer to have policy which removes the need for such institutions, rather than policy which causes problems that push more people toward them.
Sex Ed will probably be the next thing after critical race theory the Republicans go after in school.

"They're teaching out kids to have sex!"

The humanity


It's all of the devil. ;)
 
I realize that. Unfortunately it can be a generational thing. Lack of education is a key, but there has to be a greater incentive to pursue opportunities.
Opportunity to work 3 jobs to cover rent and daycare isn't really great incentive, if you know what I mean.
 
So opinions are insulting? I didnt say anyone who disagrees can fuckoff. I simply stated my opinion aNd i have no doubts there is a passive aggressive motive with her, considering you and i were having a mature conversation with no insults, no labels, no emotions taking over.
But yet she felt compelled to tell people to fuck off. Im pretty sure she isn't aiming it at you, so she aimed it at me, the only other one discussing at this time.
If she isn't mature enough to have a conversation about it without telling people to go fuck off, then i consider that her issue.
Not mine.
i stand by my post.

Apparently, they are.

She didn't quote or specify your name in her post. She expressed an opinion and you took it as an insult.
 
Apparently, they are.

She didn't quote or specify your name in her post. She expressed an opinion and you took it as an insult.

again. If you have missed the passive agrrssive round about jabs, thats on you.
This is twice now ive been in discussion about this topic and twice she yelled that out. No times in between. Because she doesn't specify me specifically, doesn't mean she int aiming at me.
The timing is more than coincidence. Now pair that up with many of her posts being passive agressive…

yeah. No. Im not offended. Im simply calling bullshit out.
Anyhow movin on.
Some people hate. Im not one of them no matter what she thinks.
 
again. If you have missed the passive agrrssive round about jabs, thats on you.
This is twice now ive been in discussion about this topic and twice she yelled that out. No times in between. Because she doesn't specify me specifically, doesn't mean she int aiming at me.
The timing is more than coincidence. Now pair that up with many of her posts being passive agressive…

yeah. No. Im not offended. Im simply calling bullshit out.
Anyhow movin on.
Some people hate. Im not one of them no matter what she thinks.
You clearly are offended, it sent you quickly in to your victim playing cycle. You could have easily ignored it and continued on the conversation we were having. You always hammer on about personal responsibility, then shit, ignore stuff instead of letting it get you so riled that up you whine on and on, and derail your ability to actually have a conversation. I've seen you long enough to know that isn't going to happen, you make your passive aggressive comments right back, and then you'll complain about hypocrisy, and round and around. Just fucking ignore it and conversate. Again, she didn't call you out. If you take offense to her specifying who she was saying, then maybe you fall in to that category? If not, why make assumptions(again something you always hate people do with your statements), why not ask her to clarify, like you always ask others to do? But no, of course you couldn't do what you expect of others. It was her opinion that those people should fuck off, why feel so insulted? Opinions aren't insults, right?
 
again. If you have missed the passive agrrssive round about jabs, thats on you.
This is twice now ive been in discussion about this topic and twice she yelled that out. No times in between. Because she doesn't specify me specifically, doesn't mean she int aiming at me.
The timing is more than coincidence. Now pair that up with many of her posts being passive agressive…

yeah. No. Im not offended. Im simply calling bullshit out.
Anyhow movin on.
Some people hate. Im not one of them no matter what she thinks.

She's allowed to express her opinion

It appears aimed at all men who want to try and control a woman's body.

If you include yourself in that well...

Ignore her posts if you don't like what she has to say.

Why do you care so much what she thinks?
 
again. If you have missed the passive agrrssive round about jabs, thats on you.
This is twice now ive been in discussion about this topic and twice she yelled that out. No times in between. Because she doesn't specify me specifically, doesn't mean she int aiming at me.
The timing is more than coincidence. Now pair that up with many of her posts being passive agressive…

yeah. No. Im not offended. Im simply calling bullshit out.
Anyhow movin on.
Some people hate. Im not one of them no matter what she thinks.

There are certain subjects that are black and white to some people for a variety of reasons.

Women not having a say in what happens to their bodies is one of those subjects for @crandc. Trying to introduce gray areas, what-ifs, or strawmen is not going to change or modify her opinion.

Let me give you an easy example...

I don't think adults should fuck children.

Period.

But if someone(s) started trying to debate me with shit like...

If it's bad to have sex with girls why is it they can get pregnant? Obviously, nature approves of this!

If god didn't want kids to have sex why did Mary get pregnant with Jesus at age 13? Why isn't it one of the 10 Commandments?

Or what if there was only me and a 15yr old girl left in the world, wouldn't we have to start having sex to repopulate the world?

And after reading shit like that and other weird arguments I would say FUCK THE HELL OFF TRYING TO THINK OF REASONS TO HAVE SEX WITH KIDS.

It doesn't make me a hypocrite that I won't address the counterpoints and arguments for having sex with kids. It doesn't make me a bad person for not wanting to have a "discussion" about it. To me, there is no discussion to be had about this.


While I have no intention to try and speak for Crandc I get the strong feeling that abortion rights are a similar line in the sand for her.

You should really try to understand that. You may not agree but it quickly grows to a point that there really isn't much for you to talk to her about concerning this.


Another example, I really like @Phatguysrule and many of his opinions on politics and society. But honestly, and this is the first time I'm saying anything, I don't agree with him on a lot of his views about guns and gun control. I see that he is very knowledgeable and very passionate about this subject. I too am somewhat knowledgeable and passionate about different areas in support of gun control. But honestly, I don't see any real reason to get into some big debate with him about them because neither of us is going to change our positions. We'll go around and around and both end up right where we are.
 
There are certain subjects that are black and white to some people for a variety of reasons.

Women not having a say in what happens to their bodies is one of those subjects for @crandc. Trying to introduce gray areas, what-ifs, or strawmen is not going to change or modify her opinion.

Let me give you an easy example...

I don't think adults should fuck children.

Period.

But if someone(s) started trying to debate me with shit like...

If it's bad to have sex with girls why is it they can get pregnant? Obviously, nature approves of this!

If god didn't want kids to have sex why did Mary get pregnant with Jesus at age 13? Why isn't it one of the 10 Commandments?

Or what if there was only me and a 15yr old girl left in the world, wouldn't we have to start having sex to repopulate the world?

And after reading shit like that and other weird arguments I would say FUCK THE HELL OFF TRYING TO THINK OF REASONS TO HAVE SEX WITH KIDS.

It doesn't make me a hypocrite that I won't address the counterpoints and arguments for having sex with kids. It doesn't make me a bad person for not wanting to have a "discussion" about it. To me, there is no discussion to be had about this.


While I have no intention to try and speak for Crandc I get the strong feeling that abortion rights are a similar line in the sand for her.

You should really try to understand that. You may not agree but it quickly grows to a point that there really isn't much for you to talk to her about concerning this.


Another example, I really like @Phatguysrule and many of his opinions on politics and society. But honestly, and this is the first time I'm saying anything, I don't agree with him on a lot of his views about guns and gun control. I see that he is very knowledgeable and very passionate about this subject. I too am somewhat knowledgeable and passionate about different areas in support of gun control. But honestly, I don't see any real reason to get into some big debate with him about them because neither of us is going to change our positions. We'll go around and around and both end up right where we are.

The flaw in this is i wasnt discussing it with crand i was discussing it with rr7.

There is a difference between not wanting to discuss aNd not allowing others to discuss without tossing insults out there.
One is what happened. The other is not.
After she wouldn't accept my apology for the last time i tried discussing it with her, ( which i didn't really need to apologize for), i gave up trying to put her into any consideration regarding what i discuss.

Respect is a two way street.
 
I know men love to think women are stupid and don't know what pregnancy is until they mansplain it to us. I also know every reputable clinic informs women on all their choices. We don't need lectures from anti choice Christian Taliban.

And, perhaps, we don't need cransplaining from someone who is clearly ignorant on the matter - replete with not-so-subtle digs. By the way, last night's Mercy Multiplied event was a wonderful affair. The testimonies were compelling and heartwarming. We need more of this in America. Love conquers all.
 
The flaw in this is i wasnt discussing it with crand i was discussing it with rr7.

There is a difference between not wanting to discuss aNd not allowing others to discuss without tossing insults out there.
One is what happened. The other is not.
After she wouldn't accept my apology for the last time i tried discussing it with her, ( which i didn't really need to apologize for), i gave up trying to put her into any consideration regarding what i discuss.

Respect is a two way street.

She didn't disallow anything. She offered her opinion as a woman and that's valid. After she posted, you were not blocked from continuing your conversation.
 
She didn't disallow anything. She offered her opinion as a woman and that's valid. After she posted, you were not blocked from continuing your conversation.

i didnt say i was.
What i am saying is she took it upon herself to insert that comment into the middle of a discussion with passive aggressive intentions. Common behavior for her.
Call someone out without directly calling someone out.
Not once has she backtracked and said you know, maybe i was a bit judgmental calling ob and tortured and some others mysoginists for trying to have a discussion.

i e been more than kind to her over the years. And its has not been reciprocated due to a biased judgemental behavioral pattern.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.

As ling as she is allowed to blast in a roundabout way. I should be allowed to blast back.

Nobody is fooling anyone with generalized statements like that.

We can all read between the lines here but must do so consistently and not only when it favors an opinion.
 
i didnt say i was.
What i am saying is she took it upon herself to insert that comment into the middle of a discussion with passive aggressive intentions. Common behavior for her.
Call someone out without directly calling someone out.
Not once has she backtracked and said you know, maybe i was a bit judgmental calling ob and tortured and some others mysoginists for trying to have a discussion.

i e been more than kind to her over the years. And its has not been reciprocated due to a biased judgemental behavioral pattern.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.

As ling as she is allowed to blast in a roundabout way. I should be allowed to blast back.

Nobody is fooling anyone with generalized statements like that.

We can all read between the lines here but must do so consistently and not only when it favors an opinion.

When guys are talking about abortion or other controversial subjects concerning women, women are going to be upset.
 
It's very strange how some people seem to fixate on crandc and can't let anything she says go without some sort of comment, retort or a demand that she understands what they want her to understand.

Mmmmm what about her is different that causes such a uproar with some people? I know it's that she is passive aggressive!
 
When guys are talking about abortion or other controversial subjects concerning women, women are going to be upset.
So its mens fault women cant handle men discussing this without controlling their emotions?

yeah not buying it…
 
It's very strange how some people seem to fixate on crandc and can't let anything she says go without some sort of comment, retort or a demand that she understands what they want her to understand.

Mmmmm what about her is different that causes such a uproar with some people? I know it's that she is passive aggressive!

It's not what she says so much as how she says it.
 
I took it in middle school

It was a section of my science class

It was also offered in high school
I had it in HS Health class in 66. I'll be honest Im not sure just how beneficial it was in HS. It would be better received and impactful do have it in middle school. Just my opinion.
 
It's very strange how some people seem to fixate on crandc and can't let anything she says go without some sort of comment, retort or a demand that she understands what they want her to understand.

Mmmmm what about her is different that causes such a uproar with some people? I know it's that she is passive aggressive!
Well, actually, I have as they say, lady parts.
 

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