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Doctors are concerned that the anti woman laws being passed in state after state could complicate child abuse reporting. Although reporting suspected child abuse is mandatory, doctors fear the information being used to track minors who are taken to free states to have abortions. Especially when laws are passed banning such travel.

They really love fertilized eggs and rapists. Raped children not do much.
 
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ALVIN, Texas (KTRK) -- Eight months after receiving the news that her daughter, who is special needs, was sexually assaulted and strangled in the Alvin High School bathroom, a mother is still fighting for the district to take action.

Janie Doe, whose identity we are not revealing because of the nature of the case, was a senior in high school last year.

Her mother, who we also are not identifying for her daughter's sake, said she has the mentality of a 5 or 6-year-old and should not be left alone. She said the now-19-year-old cannot read and has trouble writing.

"She believes in Santa," her mother said. "She believes in the Easter bunny, and her favorite animal is a unicorn. She looks at the world as a happy, good place, or she used to. Now she's scared."

In November 2021, her mother said she got a call from an Alvin ISD police officer saying her daughter was in the nurse's office.

"He says, 'We believe she has been sexually assaulted,' and I said, 'What?'" her mother recalled. "He repeated himself and I said, 'What?' because I couldn't accept what he was saying to me. He said, 'You might want to come up here.'"

The woman said her daughter was questioned alone by the district for an hour and they attempted to go through her phone.

She said the police told her that a witness heard her daughter yelling "no" and "stop" while she was in the bathroom.

Immediately after, she took Janie Doe to the hospital for a SANE exam. She said she had marks on her neck and abrasions on her face.

"She told me when she was doing the female exam to her lower anatomy that she said, 'Yes, there is bruising. There is tearing. She was hurt.'"

From there, the mother said Alvin ISD tried to claim her daughter consented.

"'Your daughter walked down the hallway with him so she consented.' But I said she never should have been alone," the mother said. "My daughter would walk down the hallway with Jeffrey Dahmer, because she can't read people."

The distraught mother learned from the principal that the male student was suspended for three days.

"(The principal) said, 'Things are better now,'" the mother said. "'He's being watched now. The teacher has been moved now. The powers are doing their job now.' I took that as a slap in the face."

She said she wants the people who allowed her daughter to be gone for an extended period of time without supervision to be fired and the student to be arrested.

The family does not have a lawyer and has not filed a lawsuit against the district.

"All the money in the world can't undo what they did to my daughter," the mother said.

Her daughter is now in counseling and has had a seizure for the first time in her life since the assault.

"She didn't speak for probably about five weeks," she said. "She wasn't herself. I don't know if she will ever be who she was before."

ABC13 learned the case was turned over to the juvenile division of the Brazoria County District Attorney's Office and a grand jury declined to file charges against the boy. We stopped by their office to find out why and are waiting on an answer.

We also sent in a public records request a week ago asking for all of the documents that were turned over to the district attorney's office. Alvin ISD sent our request to the Texas Attorney General's Office to determine what they can release. It will take weeks or months to get an answer.

Alvin ISD released the following statement to ABC13:

"Alvin ISD is deeply committed to the wellbeing of each one of our students, as well as providing a safe environment for our students. The District is aware of recent social media posts concerning an alleged incident of sexual assault occurring at Alvin High School during the fall semester of 2021. The District vehemently denies that its staff improperly responded to the allegations. While the District is prohibited by law from commenting on the outcome of the investigation, all confirmed instances of student misconduct are handled in accordance with federal law, state law, and District policy. Furthermore, any confirmed or suspected instances of criminal activity are referred to the appropriate law enforcement agencies for investigation, and ultimately to the District Attorney for disposition. Alvin ISD remains committed to honoring the trust families place in our district when they send their children to our schools."

In 2011, a federal lawsuit was filed in the Southern District of Texas alleging very similar circumstances. A woman said her daughter with special needs was raped in a bathroom at Alvin High School and the district did not properly handle the situation.

The plaintiffs ultimately filed to have the case dismissed with prejudice against Alvin ISD and the staff members individually listed. They also requested the case be ruled in favor of Alvin ISD.

https://abc13.com/amp/alvin-high-sc...l-assault-student-with-attacked-isd/12054478/
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The thing is, I literally don't care about "the popularity of Christianity". My role, scripturally, is to grow in my my relationship to God, to seek to glorify Him with my words, my actions, my life, to serve Him within my local church, to share His love with others through service in my local community, and if called to do so, to move outside of my community to spread the gospel. If in the course of those Biblical responsibilities, I encounter a member of the church community who is behaving in a way not befitting of the body of believers, then I have a responsibility to correct gently, with the goal of restoring relationship with God and others.

Jesus told a parable about seed being scattered in different types of ground; one of those was among thorns, in which the seed grew up and was choked by those thorns, thus remaining unfruitful. He then said that the thorns were representative of the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth. This is one of many reasons generally don't get involved in the political discussions on this board--I know that getting too wrapped up in worldly matters is only going to hinder me.

If I knew this guy personally, if he were part of my church body, I would absolutely speak to him and try to show him the error of his ways. I do not, so I will continue going on with my life, with my relationship with God, hoping that the love of Jesus and the peace of the Holy Spirit will shine through.
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Awesome. I wish more were like you.

I hope you're not offended when people attack Christianity for the evil it has become in society.
 
Phatguysrule said:
At least he's not trying to push it off on others. Though the whole "unless I'm called" part leaves it open to change...
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When I talk about being called to go and share the gospel (which I don't see that I've been called to do), I've always felt that that was best accomplished by serving in a community. Looking at the gospels, Jesus didn't preach to those who didn't want Him. He traveled around, helping people whom He could help, and spread His message to those who sought Him. You've seen how I conduct myself on this board; that's the same way I conduct myself in real life. I am transparent in my faith in Jesus, and willing to talk about Him to anyone who's interested in hearing what I might have to say, but just like with anything else, I don't give advice unless asked.

People who go out on a street corner with a sandwich board and a megaphone to "call sinners to repentance", or who chastise others for not living up to their own impossible (and likely hypocritical) standards, or who tell everyone in their life that church will be the solution for every problem they encounter...these are people who (in my opinion) give Jesus a bad name. That's the last thing I ever want to do.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When I talk about being called to go and share the gospel (which I don't see that I've been called to do), I've always felt that that was best accomplished by serving in a community. Looking at the gospels, Jesus didn't preach to those who didn't want Him. He traveled around, helping people whom He could help, and spread His message to those who sought Him. You've seen how I conduct myself on this board; that's the same way I conduct myself in real life. I am transparent in my faith in Jesus, and willing to talk about Him to anyone who's interested in hearing what I might have to say, but just like with anything else, I don't give advice unless asked.

People who go out on a street corner with a sandwich board and a megaphone to "call sinners to repentance", or who chastise others for not living up to their own impossible (and likely hypocritical) standards, or who tell everyone in their life that church will be the solution for every problem they encounter...these are people who (in my opinion) give Jesus a bad name. That's the last thing I ever want to do.
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Seems like this would include supporting passing unpopular laws which hurt society in the name of the church, yes?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When I talk about being called to go and share the gospel (which I don't see that I've been called to do), I've always felt that that was best accomplished by serving in a community. Looking at the gospels, Jesus didn't preach to those who didn't want Him. He traveled around, helping people whom He could help, and spread His message to those who sought Him. You've seen how I conduct myself on this board; that's the same way I conduct myself in real life. I am transparent in my faith in Jesus, and willing to talk about Him to anyone who's interested in hearing what I might have to say, but just like with anything else, I don't give advice unless asked.

People who go out on a street corner with a sandwich board and a megaphone to "call sinners to repentance", or who chastise others for not living up to their own impossible (and likely hypocritical) standards, or who tell everyone in their life that church will be the solution for every problem they encounter...these are people who (in my opinion) give Jesus a bad name. That's the last thing I ever want to do.
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You are so intelligent! Meant with all sincerity!
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When I talk about being called to go and share the gospel (which I don't see that I've been called to do), I've always felt that that was best accomplished by serving in a community. Looking at the gospels, Jesus didn't preach to those who didn't want Him. He traveled around, helping people whom He could help, and spread His message to those who sought Him. You've seen how I conduct myself on this board; that's the same way I conduct myself in real life. I am transparent in my faith in Jesus, and willing to talk about Him to anyone who's interested in hearing what I might have to say, but just like with anything else, I don't give advice unless asked.

People who go out on a street corner with a sandwich board and a megaphone to "call sinners to repentance", or who chastise others for not living up to their own impossible (and likely hypocritical) standards, or who tell everyone in their life that church will be the solution for every problem they encounter...these are people who (in my opinion) give Jesus a bad name. That's the last thing I ever want to do.
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Agreed. Although, in Acts 1:8, we're called to be witnesses of the Gospel. It's a large call for sure.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Seems like this would include supporting passing unpopular laws which hurt society in the name of the church, yes?
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I personally don't believe the church should be involved in government at all. I know that's not a common opinion amongst the church community, but I've become more and more convinced of this recently.

ABM said:
Agreed. Although, in Acts 1:8, we're called to be witnesses of the Gospel. It's a large call for sure.
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Sure--but as you've seen in any courtroom, witnesses testify when they are called and questioned; they don't just go into the courtroom and start speaking without invitation.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I personally don't believe the church should be involved in government at all. I know that's not a common opinion amongst the church community, but I've become more and more convinced of this recently.


Sure--but as you've seen in any courtroom, witnesses testify when they are called and questioned; they don't just go into the courtroom and start speaking without invitation.
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Yep, it sounds like you're the kind of religious person I'd have no problem with.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Sure--but as you've seen in any courtroom, witnesses testify when they are called and questioned; they don't just go into the courtroom and start speaking without invitation.
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I do understand. However, don't soon forget the passage in Mark 6.

7Then Jesus went from village to village, teaching the people. 7 And he called his twelve disciples together and began sending them out two by two, giving them authority to cast out evil spirits. 8 He told them to take nothing for their journey except a walking stick—no food, no traveler’s bag, no money. 9 He allowed them to wear sandals but not to take a change of clothes.

10 “Wherever you go,” he said, “stay in the same house until you leave town. 11 But if any place refuses to welcome you or listen to you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.”

12 So the disciples went out, telling everyone they met to repent of their sins and turn to God. 13 And they cast out many demons and healed many sick people, anointing them with olive oil.
 
ABM said:
I do understand. However, don't soon forget the passage in Mark 6.

7Then Jesus went from village to village, teaching the people. 7 And he called his twelve disciples together and began sending them out two by two, giving them authority to cast out evil spirits. 8 He told them to take nothing for their journey except a walking stick—no food, no traveler’s bag, no money. 9 He allowed them to wear sandals but not to take a change of clothes.

10 “Wherever you go,” he said, “stay in the same house until you leave town. 11 But if any place refuses to welcome you or listen to you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.”

12 So the disciples went out, telling everyone they met to repent of their sins and turn to God. 13 And they cast out many demons and healed many sick people, anointing them with olive oil.
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As long as you follow the rules (take nothing for their journey except a walking stick—no food, no traveler’s bag, no money. wear sandals but not to take a change of clothes) then I guess it's ok.

barfo
 
barfo said:
As long as you follow the rules (take nothing for their journey except a walking stick—no food, no traveler’s bag, no money. wear sandals but not to take a change of clothes) then I guess it's ok.

barfo
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and oil only the feet of the people who let you use the couch and listened to you tell them what to do.
 
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riverman said:
and oil only the feet of the people who let you use the couch and listened to you tell them what to do.
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Ya shoulda seen John the Baptist's approach.
 
ABM said:
Ya shoulda seen John the Baptist's approach.
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it was a joke...George Carlin style....how can you spot a sinner at the beach? Dry feet! John the Baptist was like me....a riverman
 
riverman said:
it was a joke...George Carlin style....how can you spot a sinner at the beach? Dry feet! John the Baptist was like me....a riverman
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C'mon in. Let's chat.

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ABM said:
11 But if any place refuses to welcome you or listen to you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.”
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So if your ideas aren't welcome just leave them alone...
I don't see anything about passing laws that force people to cease doing the things you consider to be sins...
 
The Texas lawyer behind the bounty hunter law is in court trying to have birth control and prevention/treatment of sexually transmitted infections, including HPV vaccine, removed from health insurance.

Because he's a Christian and shouldn't have to pay for insurance that includes such sinful things.

Is he aware that untreated sexually transmitted infections can cause serious fetal damage?

Of course the woman can then be prosecuted under fetal harm laws. So much more Christian than treating the illness and preventing the harm.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I personally don't believe the church should be involved in government at all. I know that's not a common opinion amongst the church community, but I've become more and more convinced of this recently.
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That's good to hear. It's sad to see the religion of Christianity abused in order to gain control and power, to oppress others of different belief.
 
crandc said:
The Texas lawyer behind the bounty hunter law is in court trying to have birth control and prevention/treatment of sexually transmitted infections, including HPV vaccine, removed from health insurance.

Because he's a Christian and shouldn't have to pay for insurance that includes such sinful things.

Is he aware that untreated sexually transmitted infections can cause serious fetal damage?

Of course the woman can then be prosecuted under fetal harm laws. So much more Christian than treating the illness and preventing the harm.
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Not surprised.
 
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