Running list of prospects meeting/working out with Portland

[blazerfan11]

In Dyson Daniels' last 10 games, on 3-point shots, he shot 15-33. That is 45%.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

In Dyson Daniels last 10 games, on 3-point shots, he shot 15-33. That is 45%.

Personally think I’d keep pick if he’s available

 

[cheesehoff]

AJ Griffin's shooting numbers are incredible. 44.7% 3-point shooting on 4.1 attempts per game, 54.7% on 2-pointers, and 79.2 % on free throws.

You're not overthinking it.
"Duke got carved up whenever he was guarding the PNR."
Go to the 7:11 mark in this video. It's not pretty.

For a guy whose defense is supposed to be a strength...it sucks!

 

[cheesehoff]

I'm done for the most part questioning mechanics when we're dealing with this level of shooter.

I had issues with Desmond Bane mechanically and he's already one of the best shooters in the league.

Instead of looking at just mechanics, I look for a couple things:
Is his form easily repeatable? Same foot work, same arch, same follow through.
Does it come easy or does it look forced?
Is everything moving straight up? As in, the more parts moving sideways, or out of straight alignment, the more problems it creates. (Is his elbow sticking out? Does he shoot of the right side of his face or does he shoot across his face? Is there good rotation on his follow through or is it spinning a little sideways?)
The best shooters I've seen have very simple, easy to repeat form. Minimal moving parts. They make it look easy. Dame can shoot from 30' with the flick of his wrist. He'll never slump for too long because his shot is so simple.

 

[JDC]

For a guy whose defense is supposed to be a strength...it sucks!

Who ever said that? Lol

 

[illmatic99]

In Dyson Daniels last 10 games, on 3-point shots, he shot 15-33. That is 45%.

He shot 60% from the ft line. Thats usually the best indicator for how a prospect will shoot in the league

 

[oldmangrouch]

weird logic, probably how one ends up drafting CJ McCollum over Giannis.

So if they were both available at #7, would you take him over Duren? They are both projects, both highly athletic, but we have actual info on how one plays 5-5. You don't see that info as at all useful?

 

[Natebishop3]

So if they were both available at #7, would you take him over Duren? They are both projects, both highly athletic, but we have actual info on how one plays 5-5. You don't see that info as at all useful?

I have never liked drafting centers. I think the best way to acquire centers is through free agency or trade. Przybilla and Nurk were both acquired after another team used a draft pick on them. Duren is intriguing though, but does he have superstar potential?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I have never liked drafting centers. I think the best way to acquire centers is through free agency or trade. Przybilla and Nurk were both acquired after another team used a draft pick on them. Duren is intriguing though, but does he have superstar potential?

Defensively he does. Howard, Ben Wallace. That type of impact

 

[illmatic99]

Defensively he does. Howard, Ben Wallace. That type of impact

these are HOF'ers. I think that's reaching a bit. If he had really that kinda buzz, I think he'd be projected top 3, no?

 

[Hoopguru]

these are HOF'ers. I think that's reaching a bit. If he had really that kinda buzz, I think he'd be projected top 3, no?

agree, he wouldn't have drop as much as he has.

 

[Mediocre Man]

these are HOF'ers. I think that's reaching a bit. If he had really that kinda buzz, I think he'd be projected top 3, no?

Ben Wallace was undrafted. Both built similarly, both came in as defenders

 

[illmatic99]

Ben Wallace was undrafted. Both built similarly, both came in as defenders

ben wallace was not ben wallace until later in his career.

 

[Natebishop3]

Defensively he does. Howard, Ben Wallace. That type of impact

Collins was also supposed to be a defensive monster.

 

[blazerfan11]

He shot 60% from the ft line. Thats usually the best indicator for how a prospect will shoot in the league

In his last 10 games he was 7 0f 15, 47%. He barely got to the free-throw line with the Ignite, averaging about 1.5 attempts per game over 29 games.

 

[blazerfan11]

I have never liked drafting centers. I think the best way to acquire centers is through free agency or trade. Przybilla and Nurk were both acquired after another team used a draft pick on them. Duren is intriguing though, but does he have superstar potential?

Yes, he has superstar potential. He is very different from Przybilla and Nurkic. His ceiling would be something like Dwight Howard with the ability to defend the perimeter well enough (better than Nurkic and Przybilla).
If he could add a consistent jump shot he could be a super duper star.

 

[blazerfan11]

Collins was also supposed to be a defensive monster.

I think this guy has a little better chance to be a defensive monster than Zach Collins.

 

[Mediocre Man]

ben wallace was not ben wallace until later in his career.

Ben Wallace had a positive DBPM every year but his first. Duren has a shit ton more ability than Ben Wallace, this the lottery projection

My point is that Duren will come in and be an instant help on defense. He could never become an offensive asset, I think he will, but maybe not. His defense and rebounding will be solid from day one

 

[Mediocre Man]

Collins was also supposed to be a defensive monster.

Bigger hands
Quicker
Faster
Better vert
Actually started for his team

Zach is a good defender, but Duren appears to be a tier above him, and he’s 18

 

[STOMP]

I have never liked drafting centers. I think the best way to acquire centers is through free agency or trade. Przybilla and Nurk were both acquired after another team used a draft pick on them.

Walton and Sabonis were from the draft.

Duren is intriguing though, but does he have superstar potential?

At 18 years old he's early in his development, but physically... height, weight, length & jumping... he's more Hakeem then Capela

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

And this is why I want nothing to do with Sharpe.

With Griffen we at least have history of him playing 5-on-5 against real competition.

I want nothing to do with evaluating Sharpe other then to say that he has obvious physical gifts a pretty outside stroke and seems intriguing. I would reserve judgement if Portland drafts him as they have seen a whole lot more of him then I have.

STOMP

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

If Sharpe’s the pick at 7, I’ll wait and see … and not expect too much in Year 1. In 2 weeks, let ‘er rip.

 

[illmatic99]

Eason has worked out with Washington, Charlotte, Atlanta, OKC, NYK, Minny, CLE, Memphis, San Antonio, and now Portland.

I like the addition of Lofton.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Eason has worked out with Washington, Charlotte, Atlanta, OKC, NYK, Minny, CLE, Memphis, San Antonio, and now Portland.

I like the addition of Lofton.

Evan Battey is a big, thick forward (6'8", 260) who can stroke from outside (shot nearly 50% from 3 this year). I'm sure he's too slow and ground-bound to be a legit player, but I could see him finding his way onto a roster as a pick-and-pop threat off the bench. Plus he's just got a great story, recovering from a stroke in his freshman year.

 

[illmatic99]

Evan Battey is a big, thick forward (6'8", 260) who can stroke from outside (shot nearly 50% from 3 this year). I'm sure he's too slow and ground-bound to be a legit player, but I could see him finding his way onto a roster as a pick-and-pop threat off the bench. Plus he's just got a great story, recovering from a stroke in his freshman year.

i'm hoping to see David Roddy roll through here.

 

[Natebishop3]

I know we're trying to build around Dame, but I'd really love to get another pick to go after Sochan or Eason.

 

[Freshtown]

I know we're trying to build around Dame, but I'd really love to get another pick to go after Sochan or Eason.

i used to be in on eason but after hearing how bad his bbiq is I’m totally out. Even the most athletic players are useless without good bbiq (see Travis outlaw or Thomas Robinson)

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Eason has worked out with Washington, Charlotte, Atlanta, OKC, NYK, Minny, CLE, Memphis, San Antonio, and now Portland.

I like the addition of Lofton.

Well, Lofton may be the only guy of those lower tier guys that will even be drafted. Same as the previous group, mostly 4th and 5th year seniors. Are they looking for guys to fill out the summer league roster? Although the Raptors worked out Notae.

 

[illmatic99]

i used to be in on eason but after hearing how bad his bbiq is I’m totally out. Even the most athletic players are useless without good bbiq (see Travis outlaw or Thomas Robinson)

i'm kinda hesitant on it too, but it's really hard to be as productive a perimeter/wing defender as him without some sorta bball smarts. really think it's a smokescreen based on a continuing narrative.

 

[Hoopguru]

I know we're trying to build around Dame, but I'd really love to get another pick to go after Sochan or Eason.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Sochan go in top ten at all.