OT Saudi government allegedly funded a 'dry run' for 9/11, report says

[SlyPokerDog]

I hate this man.

 

[theprunetang]

I take it back. I'm a huge fan.

 

[Chris Craig]

Only took 16 years for that report...

A lot of 9/11 was really fishy. Pentagon was also very weird and I stand by tower 7 being very weird as well.

Yeah, so apparently the plane that hit the pentagon desentigrated on impact leaving nothing left...plus the hole wasn't even big enough.

 

[dviss1]

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest

Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that explosives downed World Trade Center 7, north of the Twin Towers. The long-awaited report from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) conclusively rebuts those claims. Fire alone brought down the building, the report concludes, pointing to thermal expansion of key structural members as the culprit. The report also raises concerns that other large buildings might be more vulnerable to fire-induced structural failure than previously thought.

Aug 1st, 2017

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/

I think this is a crock of shit. Buildings don't pancake in on themselves from fire...

 

[theprunetang]

 

[dviss1]

I like Seth Rogen but damn he is on that hollywood political shit

Serious question: What is that exactly?

 

[Chris Craig]

I think this is a crock of shit. Buildings don't pancake in on themselves from fire...

Before that point a building of that size had never collapsed due to fire.

 

[dviss1]

Before that point a building of that size had never collapsed do to fire.

Before the towers a building hit by a plane has never pancaked either. There was nothing inside of either tower that would have cased the reported multiple explosions after the plane crashes.

There are no explanations for the many yellow thermite reactions pouring out of the building.

There are no explanations on how molten steel was found at ground zero

Jet fuel burns at 1800 degrees. Not hot enough to melt steel.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Before the towers a building hit by a plane has never pancaked either. There was nothing inside of either tower that would have cased the reported multiple explosions after the plane crashes.

There are no explanations for the many yellow thermite reactions pouring out of the building.

There are no explanations on how molten steel was found at ground zero

Jet fuel burns at 1800 degrees. Not hot enough to melt steel.

Steel weakens at 425 degrees and looses half its strength at 650 degrees.

 

[dviss1]

Steel weakens at 425 degrees and looses half its strength at 650 degrees.

So. It doesn't melt. They found MOLTEN steel.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So. It doesn't melt. They found MOLTEN steel.

The picture you posted is not MOLTEN. It's hot but it has structure.

 

[stampedehero]

This is not a complete thought. What are you trying to say?

+There was a story that the towers were under attack and an unknown party extracted gold, bearer bonds and assets of that nature. Basically a diversion for the ultimate purpose of a heist.

 

[Chris Craig]

Before the towers a building hit by a plane has never pancaked either. There was nothing inside of either tower that would have cased the reported multiple explosions after the plane crashes.

There are no explanations for the many yellow thermite reactions pouring out of the building.

There are no explanations on how molten steel was found at ground zero

Jet fuel burns at 1800 degrees. Not hot enough to melt steel.

The 9\11 commision tried to contend that the molten steel was in fact molten aluminum from the airplanes because it melts at a lower temperature than steel.

 

[barfo]

+There was a story that the towers were under attack and an unknown party extracted gold, bearer bonds and assets of that nature. Basically a diversion for the ultimate purpose of a heist.

Certainly would be the most complex robbery plan ever, by a factor of several thousand times. Why they didn't include sharks with frickin laser beams I am not clear about.

barfo

 

[dviss1]

The picture you posted is not MOLTEN. It's hot but it has structure.

It was molten. Look at the black stuff on the end of the structure. It was melted at one point in time. Weakened steel doesn't look like that.

Also, it happens here real time.

 

[Chris Craig]

I believe it is all together possible that our government recieved intel, knew the attack was going to happen, allowed it to happen, and used it as an oppurtunity to further their own means, whether to destroy damning information held within main frames in the towers and pentagon, as a means of population control, etc.

 

[stampedehero]

Certainly would be the most complex robbery plan ever, by a factor of several thousand times. Why they didn't include sharks with frickin laser beams I am not clear about.

barfo

Only a story.... No sharks No laser beams.

 

[dviss1]

I believe it is all together possible that our government recieved intel, knew the attack was going to happen, allowed it to happen, and used it as an oppurtunity to further their own means, whether to destroy damning information held within main frames in the towers and pentagon, as a means of population control, etc.

I don't think Saudi's had anything to do with it.

MFs say:

Don't trust the government!!!!

But trust them when they tell us about 9/11....

 

[Chris Craig]

I don't think Saudi's had anything to do with it.

MFs say:

Don't trust the government!!!!

But trust them when they tell us about 9/11....

You think our government was behind the whole thing? That thry crashed the planes inyo the towers, etc.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It was molten. Look at the black stuff on the end of the structure. It was melted at one point in time. Weakened steel doesn't look like that.

Also, it happens here real time.

You're making so many false assumptions it's not even worth debating or talking to you.

Something dripping out of a building that's on fire. You'll only accept it was molten metal,lol.

There you go with thermite. But the amount of thermite needed to melt the columns would have required giant barrels of it strapped to the outside of the WTC.

Then you claim explosions because of wisps of smoke. First, look up what scuppers are and what they do. I'm sure some of the guys in the forum who were in the Navy would be happy to explain them to you.

Then charred ends of metal. So what building was that from? What part of the building was it? When was it excavated? How much debris fell on it? What was burning and for how long? How did they get the steel that collapsed to the ground into pieces big enough to fit on trucks to be hauled out of there? I bet some were cut with... with... hmmm.... what would you use to cut thru large pieces of metal like that? I wonder what they would look like?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I believe it is all together possible that our government recieved intel, knew the attack was going to happen, allowed it to happen, and used it as an oppurtunity to further their own means, whether to destroy damning information held within main frames in the towers and pentagon, as a means of population control, etc.

I can think of a lot easier ways of destroying some computers or killing a few thousand people.

So we went to all that trouble just to invade Afghanistan? Seems like all we would have had to do is say they had some yellow cake. Worked just fine with Iraq.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Buildings destroyed on 9/11. Some of these experienced partial collapses due to fire and/or debris hitting them. All were total losses.

WTC1
WTC2
WTC3
WTC4
WTC5
WTC6
WTC7
St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church
Deutsche Bank Building

 

[dviss1]

Then you claim explosions because of wisps of smoke. First, look up what scuppers are and what they do. I'm sure some of the guys in the forum who were in the Navy would be happy to explain them to you.

I never claimed explosions these firefighters did. I just believe them over the government:

 

[Cippy91]

Serious question: What is that exactly?

Hollywood is known for pushing this super left political view

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I never claimed explosions these firefighters did. I just believe them over the government:

Here is the entire quote:

I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

Q.: Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?

A: No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too.

I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever.​

 

[dviss1]

I can think of a lot easier ways of destroying some computers or killing a few thousand people.

So we went to all that trouble just to invade Afghanistan? Seems like all we would have had to do is say they had some yellow cake. Worked just fine with Iraq.

You don't know about all of the no-bid Halliburton contracts an the Carlyle group etc?

"War" = Money

For people who don't trust government, I'm wondering why they're being trusted on this...

 

[dviss1]

Hollywood is known for pushing this super left political view

You ever think that most people in Hollywood are liberal and that they are pushing their own views? I don't see Clint Eastwood pushing that view. Dennis Hopper? Dennis Miller? John Wayne?

I could continue to go down the list of Hollywood celebs who are right wing...

The bolded is a fallacy.

 

[Cippy91]

You ever think that most people in Hollywood are liberal and that they are pushing their own views? I don't see Clint Eastwood pushing that view. Dennis Hopper? Dennis Miller? John Wayne?

I could continue to go down the list of Hollywood celebs who are right wing...

The bolded is a fallacy.

The people you just named, how great are there careers compared to the ones pushing the super left view? I'm sure some definitely believe in it but there are also some who have to fake it to make it. They wanna make actin movies, within them they are blasting everybody then they wanna talk to us about gun control. People like Rogen wanna make these comedies with words they then say you shouldn't use. Look how many celebrities endorsed Hillary even though the people of this country knew they couldn't trust her

 

[Chris Craig]

Buildings destroyed on 9/11. Some of these experienced partial collapses due to fire and/or debris hitting them. All were total losses.

WTC1
WTC2
WTC3
WTC4
WTC5
WTC6
WTC7
St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church
Deutsche Bank Building

I see it now...it was all to destroy the church

 

[Chris Craig]

You ever think that most people in Hollywood are liberal and that they are pushing their own views? I don't see Clint Eastwood pushing that view. Dennis Hopper? Dennis Miller? John Wayne?

I could continue to go down the list of Hollywood celebs who are right wing...

The bolded is a fallacy.

While there are a handful or two of conservative people in hollywood, the majority do seem to be pushing liberal views.