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Stevens is overrated. All that talent and a .500 record. Stotts has less talent and a 12-7 record in a deeper conference.
Yeah, dont take into account what I said at all. Your dislike for Brad Steven's is definitely more reasonable reasonable than anything I said. Smh.
 
I respectfully disagree, Stephens is a really good coach. I think Hayward and Kyrie coming back has caused a lot of weirdness for that team. Hayward doesnt look even remotely close to what he was but he’s making a lot money so they kind of have to play him. Kyrie is better than Rozier on offense but plays 0 defense whatsoever. So they’re trying to figure out how to play with two guys that kind of hamper the things they did well in the playoffs last year.
Eric really dislikes Stevens for whatever reason. He's weird when it comes to Boston.
 
What coach can run something better than a high school offense? Hmmm, a lot actually.

C'mon bro stop.

Calling Terry's offense high school is just hating.

He designed an offense that won a championship...
 
C'mon bro stop.

Calling Terry's offense high school is just hating.

He designed an offense that won a championship...
Dviss Starter Pack:
Bro Stop
Hatin'
GTFOH

Based around one of the most unique scorers in NBA history and as an assistant coach where that's all he had to worry about, and he had the help of his head coach... I've also said I think he's regressed as a coach. Thing is, I know if we sat down and watched a game and just talked about the way the offense is playing, you'd see what I see.
 
Dviss Starter Pack:
Bro Stop
Hatin'
GTFOH

Based around one of the most unique scorers in NBA history and as an assistant coach where that's all he had to worry about, and he had the help of his head coach... I've also said I think he's regressed as a coach. Thing is, I know if we sat down and watched a game and just talked about the way the offense is playing, you'd see what I see.

Take off the H.
 
Dviss Starter Pack:
Bro Stop
Hatin'
GTFOH

Based around one of the most unique scorers in NBA history and as an assistant coach where that's all he had to worry about, and he had the help of his head coach... I've also said I think he's regressed as a coach. Thing is, I know if we sat down and watched a game and just talked about the way the offense is playing, you'd see what I see.

No, I see what you're saying. I'm just not willing to go to the lengths of calling it high school. :dunno:
 
No, I see what you're saying. I'm just not willing to go to the lengths of calling it high school. :dunno:

I think Stotts is actually an ok coach, but his "tricks" are all out there scouted now and he's failed to show he's got anything else. That might be harsh, I like Stotts, I just really think that his offense is stagnant at this point. Every opposing coaching staff has to know what their running if I do...
My highschool offenses sure weren't as involved as Stott's,
 
Yeah, dont take into account what I said at all. Your dislike for Brad Steven's is definitely more reasonable reasonable than anything I said. Smh.
It is Stevens’ job to put his players in a position to shoot well. It’s ridiculous to say they’re all in a slump. Put together an offense that gets them easier looks. If you’re gonna trash Stotts, then please trash Stevens too.
 
It is Stevens’ job to put his players in a position to shoot well. It’s ridiculous to say they’re all in a slump. Put together an offense that gets them easier looks. If you’re gonna trash Stotts, then please trash Stevens too.
It wasn't really their offense that set them apart last year it was their defense. Their defense hasn't quite gotten back to that level yet. In fact I think most teams that really relied on good defense last year have had a rough go of it this year. Look at Utah for instance, the new you can't touch anything for half the game has really hurt those teams. Also incorporating a guy who didn't play for a year because his foot looked like it snapped off can be hard to do...
 
It wasn't really their offense that set them apart last year it was their defense. Their defense hasn't quite gotten back to that level yet. In fact I think most teams that really relied on good defense last year have had a rough go of it this year. Look at Utah for instance, the new you can't touch anything for half the game has really hurt those teams. Also incorporating a guy who didn't play for a year because his foot looked like it snapped off can be hard to do...
Good points. Blaming Hayward though doesn’t make sense to me. They have enough scorers to make up for him being incorporated. Everyone was amazed last year that Boston made ECF with 2 All Stars not playing but the truth is that they were playing well BECAUSE Kyrie and Hayward were out.
 
No, I see what you're saying. I'm just not willing to go to the lengths of calling it high school. :dunno:
It's probably hyperbole. In reality, it's more of a DIII offense.
 
Good points. Blaming Hayward though doesn’t make sense to me. They have enough scorers to make up for him being incorporated. Everyone was amazed last year that Boston made ECF with 2 All Stars not playing but the truth is that they were playing well BECAUSE Kyrie and Hayward were out.
I think what I blame most on Hayward is he cant guard anybody at this point, he’s so slow...
Yeah his offense hasnt been very good either.

I think they’ll figure it out around january, and start to win more consistently.
 
Bones has a point D. Stotts's system is very basic with few plays
 
Bones has a point D. Stotts's system is very basic with few plays
Not even just that, he doesnt put in philophies that allow the team to freelance as a unit that's on the same page and freelance as a team. It's simply standing around and 1-on-1 iso ball. People blame our guards but its the whole unit contributing to that. It's the coaching staff.
 
Bones has a point D. Stotts's system is very basic with few plays

You guys are trippin. Just because you see dribble hand offs doesn't mean it's the same play or the same set.

I see us running a lot of Horns, Floppy, Flare, and 1-4 low.

Our offense is complex. It's our defense that's DIII.
 
You guys are trippin. Just because you see dribble hand offs doesn't mean it's the same play or the same set.

I see us running a lot of Horns, Floppy, Flare, and 1-4 low.

Our offense is complex. It's our defense that's DIII.
I feel like our playbook is maybe 5 plays... Sometimes they run different actions on the plays but it doesnt seem that extensive to me.

The defense on the other hand, Im pretty sure I could coach a bunch of middle schoolers how to play those schemes...
 
I feel like our playbook is maybe 5 plays... Sometimes they run different actions on the plays but it doesnt seem that extensive to me.

The defense on the other hand, Im pretty sure I could coach a bunch of middle schoolers how to play those schemes...
Yup.
 
You guys are trippin. Just because you see dribble hand offs doesn't mean it's the same play or the same set.

I see us running a lot of Horns, Floppy, Flare, and 1-4 low.

Our offense is complex. It's our defense that's DIII.
I'm trippin? Obviously they don't just run one set, they just run the same sort of actions out of these sets, and don't have a variety of sets that can take advantage of different defensive schemes. You really think I don't pay attention or know my shit? Show some respect.

Our offense is not complex at all.

Horns? We have no wrinkles to it, especially wrinkles that free up cutters to the rim or collapse the defense. The only cut we get to the rim out of a set Horns action is when the win curls the pin down. Then the guard comes for a perimeter handoff which is essentially a. pick n roll, nothing more.

Floppy involves guards running baseline then cutting AWAY from the rim, catching the ball on the perimeter, then having to create from there.

Flare? Another perimeter cut, which is usually followed by the other guard cutting AWAY from the rim on the opposite side. In that set, the guards get the ball on the perimeter, and then are supposed to create something from there.

1-4? Isolation, where we task our guards with creating something out of nothing.

That's our entire offense. Letting our guards create something out of nothing. Out sometimes create open jumpshots, but they never collapse the defense because of any specific action.
 
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this felt like a season-defining loss tonight ... the team talked about how they needed it, Dame returns, no Kevin Love, Cavs on the second night of a back to back after losing by 40, and yet we lose and it wasn't really ever a contest

i've tried looking for silver linings, but it's nearly impossible at the moment. the season feels lost. just get a good draft pick and start over next year.
 

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