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I’m assuming Olshey will not survive this, which is great for those of us who have wanted to get rid of him for years.

BUT: I’m concerned about what this means for trades this year. Are they going to have an interim GM? Bring in someone from the outside mid-season, a la Chris Finch hire last year?

In either scenario, can we really expect someone brand new to make a huge swing weeks into their tenure? It seems more likely that they would man the ship for a bit and not rock the boat too much until they get their bearings.

And that’s what would make me sad, because we need a big trade and we need to do it this season. Can’t afford another wasted year of Lillard :(
 
Freshtown said:
I’m assuming Olshey will not survive this, which is great for those of us who have wanted to get rid of him for years.

BUT: I’m concerned about what this means for trades this year. Are they going to have an interim GM? Bring in someone from the outside mid-season, a la Chris Finch hire last year?
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Olshey hasn't made a move to turn us into a contender for nearly a decade and I suspect this February wasn't going to be the year he was going to foster the relationship to make it happen, so I'm not too worried about it.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not looking good for Neil according to a certain delivery guy
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Blazinaway said:
Think he's got 24-48 hrs at most left then adios and good riddance!
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haynes said in his recent article that while the interviews should be done soon, the decision could take weeks.

that could change depending on what they find of course.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not looking good for Neil according to a certain delivery guy
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Does this delivery guy give you, say, a window of time from when the delivery will be made?
 
I think people are framing Neil's time here in the wrong way. He inherited a team that was pretty much playoff ready.

LMA
Wes
Nic

And Dame was basically already the pick before he was hired. So he had most of that playoff starting lineup in place before he took the job. He added a few role players (which is basically what he's good at) and we were able to get our first playoff series win in a long time, but the core of that winning team had nothing to do with Neil.

Neil killed that team. He let LMA walk for nothing. He traded Nic for garbage. He let Wes and Rolo walk away and he basically tried to start over from near scratch with only Dame from that core. Since LMA left, Neil hasn't been able to put anyone nearly as good next to Dame. That's 7 seasons since LMA left and we still haven't had another All-Star caliber player in that time. He has whiffed on first round picks. He has whiffed on trades. He has whiffed on free agents signings. The guy is honestly mediocre at best.

Now we find out that he's also a toxic douche. It's time to go.
 
Minstrel said:
This makes it sound like the Neil Olshey "bombshell" is only one outside the franchise--the Vulcans probably knew for some time and were quietly getting their ducks in a row before it came out, if replacing Olshey became necessary.

I don't think this is just to get out of paying Olshey. Aren't they still paying Stotts? There was no dirty tricks campaign to get out of that. I don't see why Olshey is special in that regard, where the team must stop at nothing to avoid paying him after firing him.
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Stotts was a class act. There would be no validity to trying to part with him and not pay him.

Perhaps the team has a chance to fire Neil and not pay them. It makes sense they would consider going that route.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think people are framing Neil's time here in the wrong way. He inherited a team that was pretty much playoff ready.

LMA
Wes
Nic

And Dame was basically already the pick before he was hired. So he had most of that playoff starting lineup in place before he took the job. He added a few role players (which is basically what he's good at) and we were able to get our first playoff series win in a long time, but the core of that winning team had nothing to do with Neil.

Neil killed that team. He let LMA walk for nothing. He traded Nic for garbage. He let Wes and Rolo walk away and he basically tried to start over from near scratch with only Dame from that core. Since LMA left, Neil hasn't been able to put anyone nearly as good next to Dame. That's 7 seasons since LMA left and we still haven't had another All-Star caliber player in that time. He has whiffed on first round picks. He has whiffed on trades. He has whiffed on free agents signings. The guy is honestly mediocre at best.

Now we find out that he's also a toxic douche. It's time to go.
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@sheed30 go ahead and do your devils advocate on this take. You can't. Olshey sucks.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Yep. And there will still be people saying Olshet gets all the credit because he was gm. Heard that argument a few times over the summer from the Neil fans here.
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Olshey certainly deserves at the least some credit for the Dame pick. He was the GM at the time. The GM job is to communicate and convince the owner of the best actions to take. Allowing Paul Allen and agreeing himself to go along with a prior recommendation is an action. If that is indeed the one Olshey took, he should get credit for that. Maybe others deserve a ton of credit for the Dame pick, that could be the case too. But saying Neil deserves no credit is incorrect.

I'm all for firing Neil, but I'm not going to unfairly blame, remove his accomplishments, or unfairly criticize him. There's plenty of justifiable criticisms against him.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Olshey certainly deserves at the least some credit for the Dame pick. He was the GM at the time. The GM job is to communicate and convince the owner of the best actions to take. Allowing Paul Allen and agreeing himself to go along with a prior recommendation is an action. If that is indeed the one Olshey took, he should get credit for that. Maybe others deserve a ton of credit for the Dame pick, that could be the case too. But saying Neil deserves no credit is incorrect.

I'm all for firing Neil, but I'm not going to unfairly blame, remove his accomplishments, or unfairly criticize him. There's plenty of justifiable criticisms against him.
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....... so he was the button hitty guy. Sounds good team! You did all the research for me and I just confirmed what you had already wanted to do. And would have done if you never even hired me.

He can have a sliver of credit.

And that sliver if credit awarded him many years if whiffing on things and having us run that treadmill.
 
Freshtown said:
I’m assuming Olshey will not survive this, which is great for those of us who have wanted to get rid of him for years.

BUT: I’m concerned about what this means for trades this year. Are they going to have an interim GM? Bring in someone from the outside mid-season, a la Chris Finch hire last year?

In either scenario, can we really expect someone brand new to make a huge swing weeks into their tenure? It seems more likely that they would man the ship for a bit and not rock the boat too much until they get their bearings.

And that’s what would make me sad, because we need a big trade and we need to do it this season. Can’t afford another wasted year of Lillard :(
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First of all, I don't trust Olshey to make the big trade we need either. Secondly, if the team hires a GM that sees things the way so many fans do and most of the media does then that new GM's first order of business will be to balance this roster and send CJ and whatever else out to get us a forward at CJ's overall level or if other pieces are added, higher. I wouldn't imagine the new GM worrying more about rocking the boat than they would be about making sure this roster makes sense for Dame and Chauncey and making it something they could think of as their own.
 
Guaranteed he will end up with another team eventually.
 
Neil has never built a balanced starting unit as good as the one he basically inherited.

Dame
Wes
Nic
LMA
Rolo

That lineup had good defense. Good outside shooting. Length. Rebounding. Grit. This was the team that Stotts was hired to coach. In fairness, Wes has never been the same player since his injury, and LMA bailed, but Neil has done an absolutely horrible job getting back to this balance.

His absurd marriage to CJ and his inability to acquire a second star has prevented this team from taking the next step.
 
Mediocre Man said:
The one “great” thing Neil has done is lock that place up. Super hard to get info.
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Yes, and/or that they've never gotten any burn together. Though, it is also probably for the best, because a Greg/Dame pick and roll would mean so many injuries and/or fouls somewhere else.
 
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