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MickZagger said:
I like Danny Ainge a lot. Good drafter, big balls. He’s had some health issues though. Not sure if he’d want to get back into it.

What about Sam Hinkie?
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ewww no not Hinkie. Ainge would be interesting. Doesn’t he live in Oregon or something?

my main target would be Bobby Webster.
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
Or just world class asskissers.

Some people vibe with the boss and some don't. Doesn't mean you can treat the other staff like a total dick.
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They were hired by Rich Cho. One would presume, if they had a problem with Olshey, they would have left earlier. I don't see any reason for loyalty. There's a few articles I posted earlier in this thread about the dynamic between these guys and Neil and how he bucked convention to keep them on after getting hired. Seems fairly professional from the outside. Who knows how it is internally?
 
My coach in HS was run out of town after two years, but I actually appreciated his intensity compared to the next coach who came along. He wasn't perfect and it wasn't always easy, but I never had a more dedicated coach in all years of playing sports. Some parents complained and that's all it usually ever amounts to. Some people complaining. I don't think Neil is a bad GM and I think he takes the job seriously. I don't think it's very likely to create championship opportunities in Portland for any GM, and now that front office moves are being dictated by moral hysterics, it's just another avenue with which petty authoritarians have squandered any appeal for me for the things that I appreciate. This society is more and more just straight trash and it's people without scruples(whom think they have scruples) ruining it for everyone else who thinks truth matters more than feelings. I can't wait until they start firing coaches for yelling at players because it's "harmful". Weak. Weak. Weak. Life being dictated by theatre kids.


I just wanted to add about those concerned parents - they fucking ruined my senior year of basketball. Did they get a timeout for that? Were they concerned about my well-being or the lack of return for all the hard work I put in under the old coach? No, their outrage was selfish, myopic bullshit and I was just an externality of it. That's how it always is with moral authoritarians - they never get their own comeuppance. These people are far worse than Neil Olshey as human beings, I promise you.

I should also add that the same thing happened for my senior season of baseball. Parents complained about an assistant coach being rehired, so the AD told the head coach he couldn't hire him. Head coach resigns. I was never asked what I thought about the assistant coach despite playing varsity since my freshman year. So senior baseball season dramatically disrupted right before the start of the season. Four different head coaches in four years of varsity baseball. I don't know, maybe Neil is a closet Hitler and I am just wailing without evidence, but I saw this coming from the mob in the summer. I see this kind of subversion everywhere in society these days. Stories just completely blown out of proportion and context. It's like, yes, it's okay for the coach to yell at me when I fuck up. I don't care because I FUCKED UP. I don't cry about it, because I FUCKED UP. Then you have to say, wait maybe the coach got it wrong once or twice and HE FUCKED UP, we are all human. You forgive and acknowledge the dedication he's giving and the operant conditioning he lives in. Nope, we can't do that! We have to assume we are ALL FUCKING EGGSHELLS!!!
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
Or just world class asskissers.

Some people vibe with the boss and some don't. Doesn't mean you can treat the other staff like a total dick.
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Why not? You can pay minor league players in baseball peanuts because context, so why does a basketball front office/media exchange have to be a personal hugbox? Boxers punch each other - should we do away with that because it promotes violence? All this does is create more opportunity for hysterics to levy their hammer with more and more of their own petty, authoritarian bitchiness.
 
illmatic99 said:
Alright some possible news. I was on the call that Jake Fischer from BR hosts every week, and he regularly answers my questions.

Brought up the Neil thing and he said he it's not looking great for him. Unclear why this stuff surfaced now, but his behavior and conduct has been consistent since his time with the Clips.
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I'd imagine the reason it's an issue now is employees have filed multiple complaints over a period of time and the organization is trying to head off a hostile workplace lawsuit.
 
Paine Tablet said:
Why not? You can pay minor league players in baseball peanuts because context, so why does a basketball front office/media exchange have to be a personal hugbox? Boxers punch each other - should we do away with that because it promotes violence? All this does is create more opportunity for hysterics to levy their hammer with more and more of their own petty, authoritarian bitchiness.
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Lol. I bet you are a real joy to be around.
 
illmatic99 said:
They were hired by Rich Cho. One would presume, if they had a problem with Olshey, they would have left earlier. I don't see any reason for loyalty. There's a few articles I posted earlier in this thread about the dynamic between these guys and Neil and how he bucked convention to keep them on after getting hired. Seems fairly professional from the outside. Who knows how it is internally?
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Someone new coming in can always choose to keep someone on that they vibe with. Maybe those guys stayed and kissed ass because their kids liked the schools and they liked the area. Lots of variables as to why. I've kissed ass at jobs myself. No shame in that game. Still doesn't make it ok for Neil to treat anyone like a dick at his job. Cultures matter at work.
 
Tomorrow can not come soon enough.

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Wonder if he and Jaynes are hearing the same thing. I thought I caught just a bit of Jaynes mentioning about a something coming out at soon as tomorrow.
 
Paine Tablet said:
My coach in HS was run out of town after two years, but I actually appreciated his intensity compared to the next coach who came along. He wasn't perfect and it wasn't always easy, but I never had a more dedicated coach in all years of playing sports. Some parents complained and that's all it usually ever amounts to. Some people complaining. I don't think Neil is a bad GM and I think he takes the job seriously. I don't think it's very likely to create championship opportunities in Portland for any GM, and now that front office moves are being dictated by moral hysterics, it's just another avenue with which petty authoritarians have squandered any appeal for me for the things that I appreciate. This society is more and more just straight trash and it's people without scruples(whom think they have scruples) ruining it for everyone else who thinks truth matters more than feelings. I can't wait until they start firing coaches for yelling at players because it's "harmful". Weak. Weak. Weak. Life being dictated by theatre kids.


I just wanted to add about those concerned parents - they fucking ruined my senior year of basketball. Did they get a timeout for that? Were they concerned about my well-being or the lack of return for all the hard work I put in under the old coach? No, their outrage was selfish, myopic bullshit and I was just an externality of it. That's how it always is with moral authoritarians - they never get their own comeuppance. These people are far worse than Neil Olshey as human beings, I promise you.
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Sir this is a Wendy’s.
 
Jody & Bert will be the ones making the call and it wouldn't surprise me if Jody allows Bert as head of Vulcan Sports to conduct the search and/or make the new appointment, assuming someone is gone.
 
Paine Tablet said:
My coach in HS was run out of town after two years, but I actually appreciated his intensity compared to the next coach who came along. He wasn't perfect and it wasn't always easy, but I never had a more dedicated coach in all years of playing sports. Some parents complained and that's all it usually ever amounts to. Some people complaining. I don't think Neil is a bad GM and I think he takes the job seriously. I don't think it's very likely to create championship opportunities in Portland for any GM, and now that front office moves are being dictated by moral hysterics, it's just another avenue with which petty authoritarians have squandered any appeal for me for the things that I appreciate. This society is more and more just straight trash and it's people without scruples(whom think they have scruples) ruining it for everyone else who thinks truth matters more than feelings. I can't wait until they start firing coaches for yelling at players because it's "harmful". Weak. Weak. Weak. Life being dictated by theatre kids.


I just wanted to add about those concerned parents - they fucking ruined my senior year of basketball. Did they get a timeout for that? Were they concerned about my well-being or the lack of return for all the hard work I put in under the old coach? No, their outrage was selfish, myopic bullshit and I was just an externality of it. That's how it always is with moral authoritarians - they never get their own comeuppance. These people are far worse than Neil Olshey as human beings, I promise you.

I should also add that the same thing happened for my senior season of baseball. Parents complained about an assistant coach being rehired, so the AD told the head coach he couldn't hire him. Head coach resigns. I was never asked what I thought about the assistant coach despite playing varsity since my freshman year. So senior baseball season dramatically disrupted right before the start of the season. Four different head coaches in four years of varsity baseball. I don't know, maybe Neil is a closet Hitler and I am just wailing without evidence, but I saw this coming from the mob in the summer. I see this kind of subversion everywhere in society these days. Stories just completely blown out of proportion and context. It's like, yes, it's okay for the coach to yell at me when I fuck up. I don't care because I FUCKED UP. I don't cry about it, because I FUCKED UP. Then you have to say, wait maybe the coach got it wrong once or twice and HE FUCKED UP, we are all human. You forgive and acknowledge the dedication he's giving and the operant conditioning he lives in. Nope, we can't do that! We have to assume we are ALL FUCKING EGGSHELLS!!!
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Couple things. Was this disastrous senior year of high school within the last two years? Cuz if not you’re kinda bitter about HS sports. Also, if both seasons were ruined by parents and made you this pissed maybe it’s not the parents that’s the issue?
 
Paine Tablet said:
My coach in HS was run out of town after two years, but I actually appreciated his intensity compared to the next coach who came along. He wasn't perfect and it wasn't always easy, but I never had a more dedicated coach in all years of playing sports. Some parents complained and that's all it usually ever amounts to. Some people complaining. I don't think Neil is a bad GM and I think he takes the job seriously. I don't think it's very likely to create championship opportunities in Portland for any GM, and now that front office moves are being dictated by moral hysterics, it's just another avenue with which petty authoritarians have squandered any appeal for me for the things that I appreciate. This society is more and more just straight trash and it's people without scruples(whom think they have scruples) ruining it for everyone else who thinks truth matters more than feelings. I can't wait until they start firing coaches for yelling at players because it's "harmful". Weak. Weak. Weak. Life being dictated by theatre kids.


I just wanted to add about those concerned parents - they fucking ruined my senior year of basketball. Did they get a timeout for that? Were they concerned about my well-being or the lack of return for all the hard work I put in under the old coach? No, their outrage was selfish, myopic bullshit and I was just an externality of it. That's how it always is with moral authoritarians - they never get their own comeuppance. These people are far worse than Neil Olshey as human beings, I promise you.

I should also add that the same thing happened for my senior season of baseball. Parents complained about an assistant coach being rehired, so the AD told the head coach he couldn't hire him. Head coach resigns. I was never asked what I thought about the assistant coach despite playing varsity since my freshman year. So senior baseball season dramatically disrupted right before the start of the season. Four different head coaches in four years of varsity baseball. I don't know, maybe Neil is a closet Hitler and I am just wailing without evidence, but I saw this coming from the mob in the summer. I see this kind of subversion everywhere in society these days. Stories just completely blown out of proportion and context. It's like, yes, it's okay for the coach to yell at me when I fuck up. I don't care because I FUCKED UP. I don't cry about it, because I FUCKED UP. Then you have to say, wait maybe the coach got it wrong once or twice and HE FUCKED UP, we are all human. You forgive and acknowledge the dedication he's giving and the operant conditioning he lives in. Nope, we can't do that! We have to assume we are ALL FUCKING EGGSHELLS!!!
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Sorry you got affected by that shit when you were just a kid trying to play sports.
 
Quick sort of hinted to Mike Richmond on his podcast that he thought they'd go outside Neil's staff to hire a replacement but the staff has a crew that can maintain until they find that person...we'll see. I just hope they get somebody who can gel with Chauncey ...today I read Tayshaun Prince's name a few times as a possibility....he's consulting somewhere in the east now. I still think Brent Barry is a really good hire ...I think they'll take their time finding the right replacement.
 
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