Should Chauncey be on the hot seat?

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Again, the Blazers should have hired Hammon.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I maintained at the time and I still maintain that Chauncey hired Scott Brooks as his assistant so that if the FO was thinking of firing him, they'd go "do we really want Scott Brooks to take over? Nah!"
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So you honestly think Billups was thinking about being fired when he was building his coaching staff?
You do come up with some strange stuff but that one is pretty far out there.
 
Chris Craig said:
Again, the Blazers should have hired Hammon.
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Rastapopoulos said:
But often nobody knows if they're going to be good! Half the excellent coaches in the NBA I never heard of before they became coaches. The guy in Utah. The guy in Boston. The guy in Memphis. The guy in OKC...
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I don't know who "nobody" is... I'm certain those in the business have a good understanding of who Synder, Udoka, etc were.

Just beacuse you don't know them doesn't mean they're unknown.
 
Tince said:
I don't know who "nobody" is... I'm certain those in the business have a good understanding of who Synder, Udoka, etc were.

Just beacuse you don't know them doesn't mean they're unknown.
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I imagine he's referring to Will Hardy, Joe Mazzulla, Taylor Jenkins, and Mark Daigneault. I think the fact that you went with Snyder and Udoka kind of proves their point.
 
RR7 said:
I imagine he's referring to Will Hardy, Joe Mazzulla, Taylor Jenkins, and Mark Daigneault. I think the fact that you went with Snyder and Udoka kind of proves their point.
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There is a guy named Ettore Messina who coaches in Europe. My bet is he’s probably pretty good.
 
RR7 said:
I imagine he's referring to Will Hardy, Joe Mazzulla, Taylor Jenkins, and Mark Daigneault. I think the fact that you went with Snyder and Udoka kind of proves their point.
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Those aren't real people. You just made those names up!
 
Fairly-Hard said:
There is a guy named Ettore Messina who coaches in Europe. My bet is he’s probably pretty good.
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There's a woman named Becky Hammon...
 
RR7 said:
I imagine he's referring to Will Hardy, Joe Mazzulla, Taylor Jenkins, and Mark Daigneault. I think the fact that you went with Snyder and Udoka kind of proves their point.
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The point is the same... You think those guys were unknown the NBA front offices? The guys in charge of firing/hiring coaches?

What the OP said was so incredibly vague, he could've been talking about Jerry Sloan and Bob Ford for all I know.
 
Tince said:
The point is the same... You think those guys were unknown the NBA front offices? The guys in charge of firing/hiring coaches?

What the OP said was so incredibly vague, he could've been talking about Jerry Sloan and Bob Ford for all I know.
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It really wasn't so incredibly vague, it was actually quite easy to understand. I got it on my first try!
OP was responding to someone who said coaches should be replaced if there is an obvious replacement that is an upgrade, and their point was it's often difficult to know that for sure. Based on the fact that we see coaches replaced every year, it isn't an obvious science that someone is a clear upgrade.
 
RR7 said:
It really wasn't so incredibly vague, it was actually quite easy to understand. I got it on my first try!
OP was responding to someone who said coaches should be replaced if there is an obvious replacement that is an upgrade, and their point was it's often difficult to know that for sure. Based on the fact that we see coaches replaced every year, it isn't an obvious science that someone is a clear upgrade.
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You obviously didn't understand it on the first try because I never said the replacement would be known to be better, only that they would likely be better. There has to be some middle ground between it being known who are the 30 best coaches in the world and a crap shoot. I'm under the impression that while most people here would be guessing at the ability of these supposedly unknown assistants, that most in the front office have a significantly greatly amount of information as they can ask other coaches and players what they think of them, watch their interactions in practice, etc.

The thought that Will Hardy's (or insert any coach) abilities were unknown prior to getting hired in Utah is difficiult for me to believe. Is it all science? No. Is it more known than a guess? I'd sure hope so. Paying people 7 figures to guess seems unwise.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Really? Whom do the Grizz have coming off the bench that's super-experienced?
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This is a ridiculous question. Tyus Jones, Brandon Clarke, Xavier Tillman and Ziaire Williams were all major contributors for them last season and three of those guys were major contributors the season before that. Also that bench is balanced with guards, wings and bigs.
 
blazerkor said:
This is a ridiculous question. Tyus Jones, Brandon Clarke, Xavier Tillman and Ziaire Williams were all major contributors for them last season and three of those guys were major contributors the season before that. Also that bench is balanced with guards, wings and bigs.
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Don't forget Danny Green when he gets healthy. The Grizzlies,and I am jealous tbh lol, are a way better position squad wise than we are.
 
Tince said:
You obviously didn't understand it on the first try because I never said the replacement would be known to be better, only that they would likely be better.
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You had the "likely" modifying "be able to identify" not "be better". And the thing is, those guys had never coached at the NBA level nor were they "name" players or successful college coaches. So what are you basing your info on? That's like drafting a player whom you've only seen in workouts.

Tince said:
The thought that Will Hardy's (or insert any coach) abilities were unknown prior to getting hired in Utah is difficiult for me to believe. Is it all science? No. Is it more known than a guess? I'd sure hope so. Paying people 7 figures to guess seems unwise.
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Will Hardy was promoted because he was the head assistant. Utah got lucky (or maybe unlucky - maybe they were hoping he would be shit so they could really tank). Our head assistant is Scott Brooks. I would rather take a chance on a G-League coach than have another retread like Scott Brooks.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
You had the "likely" modifying "be able to identify" not "be better". And the thing is, those guys had never coached at the NBA level nor were they "name" players or successful college coaches. So what are you basing your info on? That's like drafting a player whom you've only seen in workouts.


Will Hardy was promoted because he was the head assistant. Utah got lucky (or maybe unlucky - maybe they were hoping he would be shit so they could really tank). Our head assistant is Scott Brooks. I would rather take a chance on a G-League coach than have another retread like Scott Brooks.
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Well if all this stuff is luck, they should just get rid of GM's and draw names out of a hat.
 
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