Jade Falcon
Just to piss you off.
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I'm certainly no expert, and those against socialized medicine always trot out "horror" stories about countries that do have socialized medicine (which make for interesting reading) but I'm not sure a great deal of that is nothing more than propaganda. I was in Victoria BC about 6 weeks ago, hanging out in a pub and chatting with various folks. I got into a long and truly interesting conversation with a German tourist and a Canadian citizen (who were both absolutely fascinated by the current state of American affairs) and both these gentlemen were truly puzzled as to why America wasn't pushing hard for "socialized" healthcare. Both individuals were very satisfied with the healthcare they received in their countries and had few if any problems with what it cost them out of pocket (over and above the applicable taxes neither seemed to object to). They felt that they were getting their money's worth overall and were extremely grateful to have access to healthcare. When I asked about the delays in receiving needed care, both (remember, they were from two different countries) stated that care was virtually immediate when and if conditions (injuries, heart issues, cancer, etc, etc) were life threatening. But they also said if you needed services that were more "elective" or weren't immediately life threatening (knee replacements, etc) then yes, you might have to wait several months. But both guys were more than fine with that, because they felt that the individuals that absolutely need the care more immediately received it when they needed it, rather than being put off because services were bogged down for the aforementioned elective procedures. In other words, their countries prioritized treatment and services (which in turn can keep health care costs down). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. And this is not the first time in the past decade or so that I have heard this side of the equation. I can't help but think that a great deal (too much) of the crap we hear about things like "socialized" medicine is nothing more than bullshit put out by those with a vested interest in the current system. But then again, the quality of our Veteran's Administration health care doesn't help my point any........
Personally, I'm willing to bet there is more truth to it than propaganda. I've heard from various individuals about 6 or 8 times here and there over the years about socialized medicine and how shit it is; mainly from Canada, but also from the UK. I have a hard time believing that if, say, 6 out of 10 people say it's shit, then that is propaganda. I have a hard time believing that.
You are correct about them prioritizing treatments. And that's in a country (let's use the German folks you spoke with) with 82 million people.
Now try that in a country with over 300 million people. Suddenly, those "wait several months" for non-immediate emergencies becomes "wait several years". And most people don't have the luxury of waiting.
