So NOW do you understand what I'm talking about??? We are a better team this year.

[GrandpaBlaze]

Sly has his ridiculous methods and I have my own. I edit/delete maybe five or six posts a year. If I see one that I think it just straight up nothing but meant to insult someone, I act. I don't see every single post in every single thread, so as we've told you before, if you see one that you think is in violation of the rules, let us know.

Does that mean I should start reporting Sly when he modifies the game standings to move himself up?

 

[Draco]

I sure do. I'm liking what I've seen so far, but with an uninjured Wes, Afflalo in the role we aquired him to fill, Meyers and CJ progressing, a re-signed Aldridge, and a healthy Rolo/Kaman and/or Freeland combo we would have had one hell of a shot at a title, with or without Nico.

With the old starting five do Meyers and CJ progressive as they have? Theres definitely no way CJ scores 22 points in the first if he's a backup.

An uninjured Wes would've been great but there wasn't any way that was possible. The more I look back on the last 5 years I wonder if he was our best player. I was sad when Aldridge left but seeing the moves we've made and how our players are playing I'm happy we moved in the direction we did. We agreed to a deal with Ed Davis immediately when Aldridge decided to leave. We likely don't have his excellent contract if Aldridge is here.

Rolo was exposed in the playoffs, Afflalo is already injured again. We still have max level cap room this summer and next so the roster isn't complete. That flexibility isn't possible with a $100 million Aldridge contract. The changes Neil made look better today than 4 months ago and might be genius once we look back in a couple years.

 

[WarriorFan]

Good luck this year, you guys have a team of guys that should be fun to watch. I really want to see Vonleh get an opportunity. Between him and Davis you guys could end up with a really good 4.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Your sig is awesome. Is that the Gorge?

Thanks! But it's actually Greenland. I just found it on reddit and thought it was cool.

 

[Natebishop3]

I guess it just seems you you "happen" to see those un homer ones.

But as I always say. I honestly don't care.

You don't care, and yet you never pass up a chance to bring it up

 

[Mediocre Man]

You don't care, and yet you never pass up a chance to bring it up

Here my voice

 

[THE HCP]

Pardon me for getting a bit salty, but who gives a shit what the players and coaches do or how they view a game or a win or whatever. We aren't players. We aren't part of the team. Our job isn't dependent on keeping a "proper mindset" regarding the team and its fortunes.

We're fans. We're emotionally invested in the team. We're not supposed to be rational, or be "never too high, never too low". We're supposed to care, maybe a little more than is healthy or reasonable.

If you want to keep yourself bottled up, and wait until 50 games into the season to decide whether or not the team is any good, that's your prerogative. But STFU with all this "that's how Dame would view it" shit. We're not him. We're fans, and fans are going to be fanatical. Deal with it.

I'm a fan. I'm not part of the team either. I'm emotionally invested. I care. I was just sharing how the coaches and players react and handle a win/loss. Didn't mean to upset you.My job performance DOES however rely on my "mindset". Maybe that is why I don't get too high or low.

 

[THE HCP]

Not that your wrong, but there's a flipside to that.

It is his prerogative. So he, and everyone else, don't need some manic individual responding to every God-damn post that isn't "oh we're the best!" and telling them how wrong they are. Not all fans are the same. Deal with it.

And how does enjoying the win = keeping yourself bottled up? Because he didn't hold a lawnmower parade afterwards? Please tell us the exact amount of celebration and irrational behavior that is appropriate after a win so that we may all be true fans.

Nice post FAMS!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm a fan. I'm not part of the team either. I'm emotionally invested. I care. I was just sharing how the coaches and players react and handle a win/loss. Didn't mean to upset you.My job performance DOES however rely on my "mindset". Maybe that is why I don't get too high or low.

Exactly. You have a reason to take cues from the players and coaches. But none of us do, and to inform us that we should was insulting at the least.

 

[Denny Crane]

Exactly. You have a reason to take cues from the players and coaches. But none of us do, and to inform us that we should was insulting at the least.

You and HCP need to swap avatars.

 

[THE HCP]

Did you somehow read in my post that I'm suggesting that he's not entitled to think the team won't win more than 30 games? I'd love for you to point that out to me.

The consistent tenor of his posts is less, "We don't know if this team is any good", and more, "You people should not be so excited about preseason/one game." That is what I take issue with--not his personal choice on how excited to be, but his arrogant condescension in attempting to dictate the same to others.



Again, I did not intimate that any fan should/should not view the team in any certain way, or that there is a minimum acceptable level of excitement. If you read anything like that into what I posted, that's your problem, not mine.

HCP and KingSpeed are two sides of the same coin. They both act like anyone who doesn't think like they do is a bad fan. Both mindsets can be annoying.

You have NEVER once heard me EVER say if you don't agree with me your were a bad fan for NOT agreeing with me...EVER! I just hope people would be realistic with their expectations is all. Don't like people saying I said things that I didn't by the way.

 

[THE HCP]

Exactly. You have a reason to take cues from the players and coaches. But none of us do, and to inform us that we should was insulting at the least.

hoping that you guys guys should stay realistic with your expectations shouldn't have been considered an insult by any means

 

[VanillaGorilla]

You have NEVER once heard me EVER say if you don't agree with me your were a bad fan for NOT agreeing with me...EVER! I just hope people would be realistic with their expectations is all. Don't like people saying I said things that I didn't by the way.

I didn't say you said that, I said it's how you act. In my opinion, a lot of the things you say imply that people who aren't realistic (in your opinion) with their expectations are doing it wrong. You constantly talk about how people shouldn't expect much from the team this season. As I've said before, you have every right to share your opinion on the team as much as you want but I just don't think you should ever be telling people how they should feel. This goes for KingSpeed as well.. I don't think he should act like you or anyone else who thinks we will win 20-30 games this season are worse fans than he is. This is just how I see it.

 

[riverman]

Hey, how about them Blazers eh? Pretty good team!

 

[BBert]

Hey, how about them Blazers eh? Pretty good team!

I predict somewhere between 20 and 60 wins!

Go Blazers!!

 

[Denny Crane]

I predict somewhere between 20 and 60 wins!

Go Blazers!!

I predict somewhere between 1 and 82 wins. And that HCP is soooooo wrong.

 

[riverman]

I predict somewhere between 20 and 60 wins!

Go Blazers!!

way to cut it close Bert!

 

[BBert]

I predict The HCP will gladly eat his crow. We should have the courtesy to serve it to him warm. And daily!

 

[Strenuus]

So you ASSUME I am talking about someone?

I didn't assume. I knew. But for the sake of the board, I kept his name out of it.

Why can't you focus on the bigger picture and realize I was trying to give you an explanation, instead of picking the one thing you could argue with? I am here to help you. I'm not the one mad at you. Don't shoot the messenger. Perhaps it's the reason of your denial of any explanation as to why you are failing to understand why something the mods do what is done. Look at what I wrote, there's no way I can make it clearer.

I am trying to help you here. I ask that you not target me, as well.

 

[oldmangrouch]

What drives many "realists" crazy is that many "homers" don't even understand what we are disagreeing about. Instead, they fall back on pop psychology explanations of how we are holding back and protecting our feelings.

NO!

Our fear is that the team winds up in the 35-40 win territory (no play-offs and a mediocre draft pick) , and a significant chunk of the fandom LIKES that outcome!
As low as the Blazer payroll is, it is almost impossible for the team to not make a nice profit. If the fans are content with mediocrity - what motive does the team have to improve?

It is hard enough to get the team to care about the fans. Watching fans sending a counter-productive message is painful.

 

[Orion Bailey]

With the old starting five do Meyers and CJ progressive as they have? Theres definitely no way CJ scores 22 points in the first if he's a backup.

An uninjured Wes would've been great but there wasn't any way that was possible. The more I look back on the last 5 years I wonder if he was our best player. I was sad when Aldridge left but seeing the moves we've made and how our players are playing I'm happy we moved in the direction we did. We agreed to a deal with Ed Davis immediately when Aldridge decided to leave. We likely don't have his excellent contract if Aldridge is here.

Rolo was exposed in the playoffs, Afflalo is already injured again. We still have max level cap room this summer and next so the roster isn't complete. That flexibility isn't possible with a $100 million Aldridge contract. The changes Neil made look better today than 4 months ago and might be genius once we look back in a couple years.

Some of us have said this all along .

Thanks! But it's actually Greenland. I just found it on reddit and thought it was cool.

Its awesome!!! Simliar to the Prince Williams Sound. Lived on a boat for a few seasons up there. Alaska is Beautiful! Obviously so is Greenland.

I'm a fan. I'm not part of the team either. I'm emotionally invested. I care. I was just sharing how the coaches and players react and handle a win/loss. Didn't mean to upset you.My job performance DOES however rely on my "mindset". Maybe that is why I don't get too high or low.

Great response. Helped me understand you a bit better.

I didn't say you said that, I said it's how you act. In my opinion, a lot of the things you say imply that people who aren't realistic (in your opinion) with their expectations are doing it wrong. You constantly talk about how people shouldn't expect much from the team this season. As I've said before, you have every right to share your opinion on the team as much as you want but I just don't think you should ever be telling people how they should feel. This goes for KingSpeed as well.. I don't think he should act like you or anyone else who thinks we will win 20-30 games this season are worse fans than he is. This is just how I see it.

This is true.

What drives many "realists" crazy is that many "homers" don't even understand what we are disagreeing about. Instead, they fall back on pop psychology explanations of how we are holding back and protecting our feelings.

NO!

Our fear is that the team winds up in the 35-40 win territory (no play-offs and a mediocre draft pick) , and a significant chunk of the fandom LIKES that outcome!
As low as the Blazer payroll is, it is almost impossible for the team to not make a nice profit. If the fans are content with mediocrity - what motive does the team have to improve?

It is hard enough to get the team to care about the fans. Watching fans sending a counter-productive message is painful.

Grouch, I think when you target "the majority like this outcome", you hit a wall.

It seems many of you who are upset over this are not listening to the rest of our sentence or our reason why.

I know I have read others and I have said several times, in ANY other situation, this would be a nightmare.

This team is a UNIQUE team of lotto picks over the last few years built in four months. This team as is, will be better next year than this year. I don't care if we hold pat. It will be better. The percentages are simply too good.
I suppose what gets us optimists riled up is that many of you naysayers cant seem to see that this team isn't last year. It has upside If we finish middle of the pack, its not doomsday as if we had resigned last years team. Its not dooms day, as if we were the clips, Houston, SA, or anyone else with stars and no upside left. What baffles me is that this not a consensus thought, or is forgotten, or something, I don't know...

So when I read what you just posted, I tend to think two things... you are truly just a negative grouch or you know very little about basketball. I am not saying either of these are true, but its the persona that permeates from a post like this...

 

[oldmangrouch]

Orion:

When it comes to the Blazer front office, I gladly admit to be cynical and bitter. 2 years ago we made the second round of the play-offs....now we are hoping to not lose 60. I admit I can't understand why people aren't outraged.

As for basketball knowledge/evaluation....we will just have to agree to disagree. We have gone from a team that was strong at the top, but shallow, to a deep team with only one real stud. I don't see that as a formula for success. YMMV.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Orion:

When it comes to the Blazer front office, I gladly admit to be cynical and bitter. 2 years ago we made the second round of the play-offs....now we are hoping to not lose 60. I admit I can't understand why people aren't outraged.

As for basketball knowledge/evaluation....we will just have to agree to disagree. We have gone from a team that was strong at the top, but shallow, to a deep team with only one real stud. I don't see that as a formula for success. YMMV.

I agree on disagreeing. but here is why people are not outraged. Because most of us can now see we were never going to win a ring with the team we had whether we went 82-0 or not.
What I would think you would know and understand more than most, being an old man ( no insult, just your name) is that nothing remains the same. Everything changes and evolves. The Blazers didn't have the money or players to sign or trade for anyone good enough to take the last team any further than they went. They maxed out. Hit thier peak. This year they would NOT have been as good. Id toss money down on it if it could ever be proven.

So to play devils advocate. Lets go back in time... Knowing we just won the first round against Houston and coming into last season, what would you have done?

Maybe the front office should have traded LMA? Why would they have? At the time we were winning and it wasn't yet known we couldn't win with what we had. Plus the backlash of the trade would have been HUGE.
Not to mention LMA tied the hands of the Blazers by making them think he was gonna resign. By the time the doubt of LMA was seeping through enough to be seen, it was too late to do anything with him.
So again... what would you have done? Your pissed at the front office, because they didn't do what may I ask?
It has been very clear to those of us that have been tracking NO's moves that he did much better than most people originally thought and indeed may be seen as a genius in a year or two.

Again... tell me what you would have done?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Orion:

When it comes to the Blazer front office, I gladly admit to be cynical and bitter. 2 years ago we made the second round of the play-offs....now we are hoping to not lose 60. I admit I can't understand why people aren't outraged.

As for basketball knowledge/evaluation....we will just have to agree to disagree. We have gone from a team that was strong at the top, but shallow, to a deep team with only one real stud. I don't see that as a formula for success. YMMV.

But... you said it right there. We were a strong team up top but shallow. That didnt cut the mustard and we had no money to fill out the bench in any type of quality way.
Second I would say CJ is on the verge of being another real stud. GS just won a ring with the MVP, the one REAL stud on thier team then. Is that not a formula for success?
We might be seeing the end of the big three era.
No, our team at the moment is not going to win a ring or do anything in the playoffs, but the formula for success is this deep team with one real stud is young and full of upside. This IS a formula for success. Not a short term, fast food drive thru, one ring and back to the cellar, type success, but a long term stretch of years of being a winning team that has several years of contention mixed in the winning seasons.
Obvious moives still need to be made and player improvement must be had, but the formula and the foundation is absolutely there for the long term success of the next era of the Blazers.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Westbrook had 11 Rebs 8 Assists 48 points and Durant had 12 Rebs and 48 Points tonight.

 

[julius]

Westbrook had 11 Rebs 8 Assists 48 points and Durant had 12 Rebs and 48 Points tonight.

Whats that got to do with the thread?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Whats that got to do with the thread?

BGD is auditioning to be mod of the Thunder forum.

 

[julius]

BGD is auditioning to be mod of the Thunder forum.

As long as he stays there, they can have him.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Kingspeed what's happening to the Bench tonight?

 

[KingSpeed]

I still think we're better than last year. Losing to Phoenix is par for the course. We'll win big tomorrow.