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PapaG said:
Do they teach reading comprehension in high school these days? Why don't you just go patrol your own board and leave us alone?
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There is no "your own" board.

JE has every much a right to post here as you do. Whether he is a moderator or not has little, if any, bearing. If he violates the rules of the board--or if he's the target of a violation--the rules will be enforced evenhandedly.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
There is no "your own" board.

JE has every much a right to post here as you do. Whether he is a moderator or not has little, if any, bearing. If he violates the rules of the board--or if he's the target of a violation--the rules will be enforced evenhandedly.

Ed O.
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Thank you for stating the obvious. I didn't expect anything else out of you. I've been posting long enough to know what is punishable and what is just bad form, but I certainly am not surprised at who you chose to address in your post.
 
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PapaG said:
Thank you for stating the obvious.
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So you posting he should go back to his own board was... what? An effort to continue to act persecuted by moderators? Or you just being a jerk?

Ed O.
 
My guess is, just being a jerk. Seriously, 9 pages of this shit? Why is it so many of these threads on this board end in a pissing match,a nd most of them include the same poster. Fucking pathetic. Just drop it already.
 
Ed O said:
So you posting he should go back to his own board was... what? An effort to continue to act persecuted by moderators? Or you just being a jerk?

Ed O.
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I wasn't being persecuted at all, and he clearly was being a jerk. I was trying to hold a mod to a higher, hell, how about a minimal standard. I finally received a reasoned post from JE; perhaps JE got my message, perhaps he didn't, whatever. All I can do is call out what I perceive to be trollish/childish behavior. It is clear that it is up to the posters to try and set a more adult approach to disagreeing, so a few of us seem to have had an issue with moderator on what was perceived as his trollish (but not TOS-violating) posts. :dunno:

I did ask why he didn't go back to patrolling his own board. Is that against the TOS, or are you just looking for things to nitpick?
 
GoSpursGo said:
yes, because bringing in doctors claiming that somebody had a "season ending injury" just to try to salvage cap space, then threatening to sue other teams if they signed him, then he is signed and is CLEARLY still able to play, is the same as resting your starters for one game on a back to back after an OT game across the country.
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If the coach can do whatever the fuck he wants (your words), why is the league interested in what the Blazers do with a players minutes? Is it only Pop that gets to do that?
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oldguy said:
If the coach can do whatever the fuck he wants (your words), why is the league interested in what the Blazers do with a players minutes? Is it only Pop that gets to do that?
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I didn't know the Spurs were circumventing the salary cap and planning to keep Duncan, Parker, and Manu locked away for the rest of the season.
 
JE said:
I didn't know the Spurs were circumventing the salary cap and planning to keep Duncan, Parker, and Manu locked away for the rest of the season.
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You keep saying this, but I've yet to see how playing by the letter of the rules is "circumventing the salary cap". Everything the Blazers tried to do regarding Miles is by the book.
 
Didn't Денг Гордон already settle this?
 
JE said:
BG7 = Денг Гордон, BG7 was his previous name. Just what I call him.


http://sportstwo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1882627&postcount=176
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It actually doesn't say it exactly as BG7 posted, and I still wonder how playing completely by the rules is "circumventing the salary cap". Had Memphis never waived Miles, and had some other team claimed him, this would be a moot issue anyhow. The fact is that no team outside of Portland deemed Darius as being worthy of a guaranteed contract when Memphis first waived him.

Anyhow, we disagree on this, and unless the Blazers decide to challenge the NBA on it, it's over until that point.
 
JE said:
I didn't know the Spurs were circumventing the salary cap and planning to keep Duncan, Parker, and Manu locked away for the rest of the season.
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Try to follow the bouncing ball, and respond to the points made, instead of trying to get a reaction, ok? We'll go real slow, so you don't get sidetracked.

The Blazers followed every rule in Mile's medical retirement. League and Union approved doctors agreed with the retirement.

Here's where you can respond directly to a point.....where did Portland circumvent a rule?
 
oldguy said:
Try to follow the bouncing ball, and respond to the points made, instead of trying to get a reaction, ok? We'll go real slow, so you don't get sidetracked.
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Oh the irony. :rolleyes:

The Blazers followed every rule in Mile's medical retirement. League and Union approved doctors agreed with the retirement.
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Great.

Here's where you can respond directly to a point.....where did Portland circumvent a rule?
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http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q53

If the player "proves the doctors wrong" and resumes his career, then his salary is returned to his team's team salary when he plays in his 10th game in any one season (including pre-season, regular season and playoff games). This allows a player to attempt to resume his career without affecting his team unless his comeback is ultimately successful. A team loses this salary cap relief even if the player later signs and plays 10 games with a different team.
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Claiming Miles when its all too obvious that he would just be banished from the team, just to save their cap room... that's circumventing the salary cap.
 
JE said:
Claiming Miles when its all too obvious that he would just be banished from the team, just to save their cap room... that's circumventing the salary cap.
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And yet I'll again point out that the only reason the Blazers had a shot at Miles is because he was waived and no other team in the league wanted him or deemed him a worthy enough player to pay him for the rest of the year. That is completely by the rules and should be brought by the Blazers to an arbitrator after the season.
 
PapaG said:
And yet I'll again point out that the only reason the Blazers had a shot at Miles is because he was waived and no other team in the league wanted him or deemed him a worthy enough player to pay him for the rest of the year. That is completely by the rules and should be brought by the Blazers to an arbitrator after the season.
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Then why is he in Memphis?
 
JE said:
Then why is he in Memphis?
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Memphis waived him and let every other team in the league have a shot at him. He's in Memphis because the NBA didn't allow Portland to claim him. I just said that. lol
 
PapaG said:
Memphis waived him and let every other team in the league have a shot at him. He's in Memphis because the NBA didn't allow Portland to claim him. I just said that. lol
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Because the league viewed it as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap. They have discretion in these cases, and I doubt the league office has any real reason to screw Portland.
 
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JE said:
Because the league viewed it as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap. They have discretion in these cases, and I doubt the league office any real reason to screw Portland.
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That will be for lawyers to decide after the season is over. Bank on that.
 
JE said:
Because the league viewed it as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap. They have discretion in these cases, and I doubt the league office has any real reason to screw Portland.
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Great. Let's see how it plays out after the season. I think the Blazers have a strong argument considering they did everything by the book. :dunno:
 
I still want to believe what maxiep said. memphis was trying to force us into a trade, we didnt wanna do so they said either do it or we'll sign miles. tape recorded and everything. YOU BETTER NOT BE LYING max lol
 
Not sure how the Spurs decision last night turned into this, but...

I've come to the conclusion that the NBA was correct to block our move.

Think of it this way. Lets say another team (we'll use the Lakers :devilwink:) was in the same exact situation as the Blazers were. Would you have no problem with them picking Miles up and stashing him? I would because I'd see it as a team signed a player to a bad contract, and even though the guy can play, they found a loophole where they can still pay him but it doesn't count against the cap. That would enable them to sign other players in free agency and I'd be pissed.

I don't think the Blazers necessarily did anything wrong, why not try, but I no longer think we've been wronged in some way. Oh and Fuck Memphis anyways.
 
noknobs said:
Not sure how the Spurs decision last night turned into this, but...

I've come to the conclusion that the NBA was correct to block our move.

Think of it this way. Lets say another team (we'll use the Lakers :devilwink:) was in the same exact situation as the Blazers were. Would you have no problem with them picking Miles up and stashing him? I would because I'd see it as a team signed a player to a bad contract, and even though the guy can play, they found a loophole where they can still pay him but it doesn't count against the cap. That would enable them to sign other players in free agency and I'd be pissed.

I don't think the Blazers necessarily did anything wrong, why not try, but I no longer think we've been wronged in some way. Oh and Fuck Memphis anyways.
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The "loophole" was only created because no other team in the league thought Miles was worthy of anything other than a 10-day contract when Memphis waived Darius. So, I'm not sure how that shows that "the guy can play". Nobody wanted him and he was available to every team.

As for the rest of your post, I pretty much agree with you.
 
PapaG said:
The "loophole" was only created because no other team in the league thought Miles was worthy of anything other than a 10-day contract when Memphis waived Darius. So, I'm not sure how that shows that "the guy can play". Nobody wanted him and he was available to every team.

As for the rest of your post, I pretty much agree with you.
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I think Memphis waived him the first time just because they weren't sure yet if they wanted to gaurantee him the rest of the year. They signed him again 3 days later, and after further evaluation decided to sign him the rest of the year.

You're right, he was available to every other team, but the contract he would have signed with them would have counted against their cap, just as it should have counted against ours if we picked him up. Due to the unique circumstances, if we'd have picked him up it wouldn't have counted against our cap - We'd essentially be able to choose whether we want his contract to count against the cap or not - and that isn't exactly fair. Think of all the teams that would like to do that with some of their own bad contracts.

Again, it's a unique situation, and I think the rules need to be changed. Maybe they should allow the original team to pickup the player but the salary immediately goes back on the cap regardless of games played. If the original team chooses not to, he then becomes available to everyone else. This protects both the team he signed with orginally as well as the player not getting shafted because a team no longer thinks he's worth the contract.
 
LMAO. are you guys fucking serious? the Blazers have a RIGHT to sign a player just to sit him the whole season so they don't pay for their stupid mistake in signing him for too much money? how is that beneficial to the player? and that, Pritchard was somehow "justified" in sending that email to all the NBA execs, when he was criticized for it by everyone but blazer fans (and even some intelligent blazer fans) because he was trying to discourage teams to sign Miles, to again cover up for his mistake? man. keep drinking that kool-aid, it must be pretty damn good.

and to try to compare this to Pop sitting his starters again causes me nothing but :roflmao:
 
Ugh...at least you didn't ramble too much. Thanks for playing.
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