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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Sorry, but you two guys even commenting on this is beyond irony....and hypocrisy. Christine Blasey Ford’s accusation was at least as credible as Reade’s..
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A kid in college vs. a man in power in the Senate. You be the judge.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Hypocrisy is precisely the point here. From what I'm reading, nobody is saying Biden should be held to a different standard than Kavanaugh. What is being said is that democrats should respond to Reade's allegations the same way they responded to Ford's. Even if Republicans are being hypocritical (and some are), the question here is all about the Democrat response to Biden being accused of sexual assault. Nothing more.
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are the republicans being hypocrites with their attack on Biden then? Biden was also already heavily vetted when he was chosen to be vice president.
 
ABM said:
A kid in college vs. a man in power in the Senate. You be the judge.
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wrong….we're not qualified to be the judge. That's the job of an actual judge...get back to me when it goes to court...I'm curious why she wouldn't choose to wear underwear under the circumstances ...I imagine a judge would have the same concern in this case
 
barfo said:
Shouldn't republicans respond to Reade's allegations the same way they responded to Ford's? Hypocrisy is certainly a two-way street here, and it seems like a lot of people are living in very thin-walled glass houses.

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Yes the hypocrisy goes both ways. However I think republicans seem to feel vindicated that hey you guys said we were all x, y, z because of how we reacted to this situation in the past, and now they believe the left is responding the same way.
 
ABM said:
A kid in college vs. a man in power in the Senate. You be the judge.
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Uh, the law is the law and they apply to all. By your ideology one should be able to get away with something because he was just in college?

I'm more concerned about the people below than I am about Kavanaugh or Biden.

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PtldPlatypus said:
Hypocrisy is precisely the point here. From what I'm reading, nobody is saying Biden should be held to a different standard than Kavanaugh. What is being said is that democrats should respond to Reade's allegations the same way they responded to Ford's. Even if Republicans are being hypocritical (and some are), the question here is all about the Democrat response to Biden being accused of sexual assault. Nothing more.
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I agree 100%. but (IMHO), through their own actions in the Kavanaugh issue the Republicans have made it a moot point. Mags (and ABM) brought up the hypocrisy point. And as Mags pointed out, facts don’t care about feelings. It sounds to me like a search for evidence has been started by the Democrats and will probably continue for awhile. But it also sounds like, as Reade herself admitted, no evidence will be found. What more of a response do they/you want?? If I recall, it’s more of a response than the Republicans made in the Trump or Kavanaugh fights (other than to defend them vociferously). It’s politics. And the Democrats ARE hypocrites. They all are. Just as it didn’t matter to Trump’s base, it most very likely won’t matter to the Democratic (or Independent) voters. So is everyone who votes for either Biden or Trump a hypocrite........and supporters of sexual assault?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Yes the hypocrisy goes both ways. However I think republicans seem to feel vindicated that hey you guys said we were all x, y, z because of how we reacted to this situation in the past, and now they believe the left is responding the same way.
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Not in this case. This person that tweeted that statement was one of the high profile attorneys of the #MeToo movement. She made a statement that she believes her, acknowledges Biden probably guilty, but her need to beat Trump far outweighs her right to justice.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I agree 100%. but (IMHO), through their own actions in the Kavanaugh issue the Republicans have made it a moot point. Mags (and ABM) brought up the hypocrisy point. And as Mags pointed out, facts don’t care about feelings. It sounds to me like a search for evidence has been started by the Democrats and will probably continue for awhile. But it also sounds like, as Reade herself admitted, no evidence will be found. What more of a response do they/you want?? If I recall, it’s more of a response than the Republicans made in the Trump or Kavanaugh fights (other than to defend them vociferously). It’s politics. And the Democrats ARE hypocrites. They all are. Just as it didn’t matter to Trump’s base, it most very likely won’t matter to the Democratic (or Independent) voters. So is everyone who votes for either Biden or Trump a hypocrite........and supporters of sexual assault?
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I brought up HER hypocrisy of being a leader in the #MeToo movement, acknowledging Biden probably did touch her inappropriately, but that doesn’t outweigh her want to remove trump.
 
magnifier661 said:
Those Republicans weren’t in the forefront of the #MeToo movement. Big big difference.
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Yeah, And maybe we’ve seen how the #MeToo movement can be abused since its’ inception. Or if it’s worth the cost sometimes. And again, the lady is a lawyer. Facts do matter.
 
Politicians in high places if they don't re-sign (AF) will not be proven guilty without hardcore evidence.
 
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magnifier661 said:
Not in this case. This person that tweeted that statement was one of the high profile attorneys of the #MeToo movement. She made a statement that she believes her, acknowledges Biden probably guilty, but her need to beat Trump far outweighs her right to justice.
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Yes her tweet was ridiculous. I believe you were sexually assaulted but sorry right now were in beat Trump mode, that is crazy talk.
Most of this comes down to it gives people who voted for Trump or supported Kavanaugh (sp?) the satisfaction of saying haha you guys called us all this stuff and now when presented with a similar case you guys want to handle it the same way we did. Its simply a you called us hypocrites now we can call you hypocrites game. Politics is an interesting game of wrestling, where whichever side is dirty cant find a shower so they’re response is always lets make the other guys were playing dirty too, that’ll level the playing field.
 
I think mag's point is though it looks hypocritical to many of us, only the dems are hypocritical in certain situations, because the right long ago traded in morals for politics. Being accused of sexual assault, being obnoxious, acting like a child and insulting those that don't agree with you, name calling, yadda yadda yadda, ...all ok if the politics are in line.
 
ABM said:
A kid in college vs. a man in power in the Senate. You be the judge.
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Now you're gonna say when sexual assault is ok and when it isn't? holy shit
 
CupWizier said:
Uh, the law is the law and they apply to all. By your ideology one should be able to get away with something because he was just in college?
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Actually, Kavanaugh was a 17-year-old high schooler when to have allegedly assaulted Ford. But I do understand the implications. That all said, Ford doesn't appear to have had much corroborating evidence. The jury's still out on Biden/Reade, as it were.

Why can't we have a President like Tom Kirkman? ;)
 
RR7 said:
Now you're gonna say when sexual assault is ok and when it isn't? holy shit
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No, but I think kids in high school potentially do very stupid/wrong things that they regret as adults.
 
RR7 said:
I think mag's point is though it looks hypocritical to many of us, only the dems are hypocritical in certain situations, because the right long ago traded in morals for politics. Being accused of sexual assault, being obnoxious, acting like a child and insulting those that don't agree with you, name calling, yadda yadda yadda, ...all ok if the politics are in line.
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Nope, just pointing out those “outraged” when the opposing party has allegations, then flips when it’s against one of their own. Nice try though.
 
Hoopguru said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

These women need more evidence if they want to convict a person thats violated them.
Joe is innocent period, until he has been proven guilty of a crime. Anything less is BS.
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I am a huge supporter of women's rights, but if they truly want to make an impact on sexual assault allegations they need to come forth in a reasonable time with their allegation. Bringing it up 30 plus years later raises a lot of doubt and that goes for a female democrat, republican or independent. They need to provide all their information in a timely manor so it can be thoroughly investigated and should include a trip to a hospital or doctor.
 
CupWizier said:
I am a huge supporter of women's rights, but if they truly want to make an impact on sexual assault allegations they need to come forth in a reasonable time with their allegation. Bringing it up 30 plus years later raises a lot of doubt and that goes for a female democrat, republican or independent. They need to provide all their information in a timely manor so it can be thoroughly investigated and should include a trip to a hospital or doctor.
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Totally agree.
 
magnifier661 said:
Nope, just pointing out those “outraged” when the opposing party has allegations, then flips when it’s against one of their own. Nice try though.
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You mean like you guys on the right did. You guys are outraged when 1 accuser comes forth against biden, but when 16 came forward against Trump you guys waved them all off, not sympathetic thought to spare for them. That is hypocritical.
 
Chris Craig said:
You mean like you guys on the right did. You guys are outraged when 1 accuser comes forth against biden, but when 16 came forward against Trump you guys waved them all off, not sympathetic thought to spare for them. That is hypocritical.
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You keep trying to contrast the outrage of the accused. I have frequently stated that Biden should defend himself. That he’s innocent until proven guilty. And it’s actually 9 accusers btw.

The outrage is how the left, champions of the #MeToo movement are now acting like the right, when they used to mock us for acting exactly how they are right now.

I don’t know why anyone on the left can’t see this. It’s like blinders or something.
 
magnifier661 said:
You keep trying to contrast the outrage of the accused. I have frequently stated that Biden should defend himself. That he’s innocent until proven guilty. And it’s actually 9 accusers btw.

The outrage is how the left, champions of the #MeToo movement are now acting like the right, when they used to mock us for acting exactly how they are right now.

I don’t know why anyone on the left can’t see this. It’s like blinders or something.
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No we aren't. At least not the left on here. Not one member of the left on here wanted Biden. I believe we have all called for Biden to be investigated for the Reade incident. I just cast my vote in the primary. It wasn't for Biden.

I didn't see you guys on the right calling for Trump to be investigated, you guys waived off every one of his accusers saying you didn't believe any of them. We have said we believe Reade. I see no hypocrisy from the left here.
 
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