Notice The Angry Posts Thread contd...

[hoopsjock]

Dude. That is not helping.

Thank you!

 

[BonesJones]

No, we've had one discussion privately in the past year about problems and that was about you and Cup.

I asked you to flag the post.

I asked you not to insult them back.

I told you very nicely and very clearly that when you insult back it limits what can be done.

If it comes down to banning someone from a thread I would have to ban everyone who traded insults.

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Now knowing that, knowing that I asked you to flag posts, knowing that it was happening in a thread that was important to you what did you do?

You waited 6 mins at 10pm and started throwing out personal insults. No flag, no waiting for staff to take care of it, you just go at it.

Platy when he saw the posts started deleting personal insults.

The first post he deleted was yours.

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I found out about the drama in your thread, after I thought that we had come to an understanding, and based on our private conversation I should have banned you and HCP from your own thread. Right?

Instead I moved all the posts out of your thread so it could stay on topic.

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So staff is doing something.

You just don't like what we're doing.

And that's fine. Happens all the time.

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Now I'm going to ask you again, if you object to what someone posts to you flag the damn post or send me a PM. You sent me a PM when you had a problem logging into the site just a few nights ago. I responded to you fairly quickly right?

You know I like you and I'm supportive of what you're trying to do. Please flag the posts.

First post Platy shouldve deleted is HCPs. Calling someone a kid attached to "Grow up" out of the blue over video editing is, in my opinion, a personal attack. You dont have to agree with that, but thats where are viewpoints start differing.

Really?

Have you seen the way mods have acted in here? Can you blame me for not having any confidence in "flagging posts"? Do you seriously have no issue with one of your mods making up some BS claim about how Im trying to start a bunch of drama for clout? Or blaming me instead of the guy who instigated all of this?

I'm not the only one whos voiced this problem. Honestly, I dont see why a mod would have a problem with it either. My hard stance is I want people to stop trying to create drama with others. I've done a good job of not doing that myself, as Ive been held accountable. I would like to see the same elsewhere because I want the forum to be a better place where people arent trying to start drama every thread. Voicing those concerns isnt a bad thing.

EDIT: I wrote this before seeing your post to Julius.

 

[julius]

Dude. That is not helping.

nor is constant whining, but it happens none the less.

 

[BonesJones]

If someone who "personally attacked" me was starting threads, I'd either ignore them and move on. Because if it's a REAL and ACTUAL problem, one that seems to be giving you issues, you can deal with it or not.

So dont say a word about being personally attacked constantly by the same two people, miss out on a large chunk of the forum, or leave the forum. Those are my options huh?

Thats the problem. Mods believing those should be my only options are the problem....

 

[BonesJones]

When you hit your 40's, you realize certain truths. One of those truths is this.

It is not worth the effort to complain about things like you did when you were in your 20's. Let's just say if someone "personally attacked" me (and did the other things BJ mentioned) I wouldn't want to stay around anymore.

There is sooooooooooooo much more in life that is more important to me than a message board, and if that message board was becoming a PITA, I'd man up and leave.

I swear to god this place is fucking middle school again. I left middle school almost 35 years ago, it's so god damn boring to read through this kind of shit again.

Obviously I value this forum a lot more than you do, which you seem to think is a mistake, which is kinda sad considering youre the mod...

 

[Chris Craig]

nor is constant whining, but it happens none the less.

Dude

 

[hoopsjock]

nor is constant whining, but it happens none the less.

So why don't you take your own fucking advice and ignore it then. It obviously isn't great advice if you aren't doing it or can't resist yourself.

Coming from a mod I think what you said to Bones is ban worthy.

 

[julius]

So dont say a word about being personally attacked constantly by the same two people, miss out on a large chunk of the forum, or leave the forum. Those are my options huh?

Thats the problem. Mods believing those should be my only options are the problem....

No one forces anyone to do anything. You are responsible for how you respond to others (as they are responsible for how they respond to you).

 

[VanillaGorilla]

When you hit your 40's, you realize certain truths. One of those truths is this.

It is not worth the effort to complain about things like you did when you were in your 20's. Let's just say if someone "personally attacked" me (and did the other things BJ mentioned) I wouldn't want to stay around anymore.

There is sooooooooooooo much more in life that is more important to me than a message board, and if that message board was becoming a PITA, I'd man up and leave.

I swear to god this place is fucking middle school again. I left middle school almost 35 years ago, it's so god damn boring to read through this kind of shit again.

Bones is not the one making it like middle school in here. In middle school kids didn't stand up to the jackass who thinks he's funny and cool but in actuality is just an annoying bully. The one doing that is over 40. Why hasn't he learned differently yet? Because of enablers.

 

[hoopsjock]

No one forces anyone to do anything. You are responsible for how you respond to others (as they are responsible for how they respond to you).

Are you going to apologize for accusing Bones of trying to start shit to get more views on his video?

 

[Orion Bailey]

So sick of people telling reactionaries to grow up when they cant tell the fucking man child who constantly pokes st others to grow up.

Are some of you that assbackwards?????

Wtf???


I mean what in the literal fuck?????

You spend more time argueing with those with a reaction when you should be directing that to the child who wont grow up around here.

I mean really. The fucking favoritism here is atrocious.

This place sucks???? Look yourself in the fucking mirror.

You cant tell the manchild to grow up? Then don't tell anyone else to grow up.

What the fuck is going on around here??? ??????????????????

 

[julius]

So why don't you take your own fucking advice and ignore it then. It obviously isn't great advice if you aren't doing it or can't resist yourself.

Coming from a mod I think what you said to Bones is ban worthy.

Really? then go ahead and ban me @SlyPokerDog , I'm 100% fine being banned from here if he thinks I did such a horrible no good thing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

First post Platy shouldve deleted is HCPs. Calling someone a kid attached to "Grow up" out of the blue over video editing is, in my opinion, a personal attack. You dont have to agree with that, but thats where are viewpoints start differing.

Okay and like I've said before, often we're skimming threads. If you didn't like what HCP posted then flag the post and bring our attention to it. We miss shit, it's hard not to. I haven't read 90% of the posts made today in the forum because of dealing with this stuff. If I do try to skim threads before tonight I'm going to be looking for things like, "you are _____" and honestly, words like man or kid and going to be missed. It's not When you sent me that PM about Cup, what was the first thing I asked you, which post and which thread. Give me some information so I can try to fix the problem.

 

[hoopsjock]

Really? then go ahead and ban me @SlyPokerDog , I'm 100% fine being banned from here if he thinks I did such a horrible no good thing.

You don't think your comment was out of line?

 

[julius]

Obviously I value this forum a lot more than you do, which you seem to think is a mistake, which is kinda sad considering youre the mod...

I value my life outside of this message board a lot more than I value this board.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You don't think your comment was out of line?

Nah man. He is an hcp lover. He will never get the other side.

 

[hoopsjock]

I value my life outside of this message board a lot more than I value this board.

Congratulations...

 

[BonesJones]

No one forces anyone to do anything. You are responsible for how you respond to others (as they are responsible for how they respond to you).

Yeah, and after doing exactly what you're saying and ignoring ot time and time again, Ive gotten tired of it and want something done to improve it. Therefore, I'm using my voice, hoping that the mods will listen.

 

[julius]

You don't think your comment was out of line?

Nope. Did I say he was a racist? did I say he was a child molester? Did I call him a bigot? Nope. I said he was using the forum to further his videos.

Um, so what? It'd be a poor business decision not to take advantage of the forum as a whole.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So sick of people telling reactionaries to grow up when they cant tell the fucking man child who constantly pokes st others to grow up.

Are some of you that assbackwards?????

Wtf???


I mean what in the literal fuck?????

You spend more time argueing with those with a reaction when you should be directing that to the child who wont grow up around here.

I mean really. The fucking favoritism here is atrocious.

This place sucks???? Look yourself in the fucking mirror.

You cant tell the manchild to grow up? Then don't tell anyone else to grow up.

What the fuck is going on around here??? ??????????????????

Dog child.

I'm a dog child.

And I don't have to grow up.

But yes, I do suck.

 

[Chris Craig]

First post Platy shouldve deleted is HCPs. Calling someone a kid attached to "Grow up" out of the blue over video editing is, in my opinion, a personal attack. You dont have to agree with that, but thats where are viewpoints start differing.

Have you seen the way mods have acted in here? Can you blame me for not having any confidence in "flagging posts"? Do you seriously have no issue with one of your mods making up some BS claim about how Im trying to start a bunch of drama for clout? Or blaming me instead of the guy who instigated all of this?

I'm not the only one whos voiced this problem. Honestly, I dont see why a mod would have a problem with it either. My hard stance is I want people to stop trying to create drama with others. I've done a good job of not doing that myself, as Ive been held accountable. I would like to see the same elsewhere because I want the forum to be a better place where people arent trying to start drama every thread. Voicing those concerns isnt a bad thing.

EDIT: I wrote this before seeing your post to Julius.

Did you flag it? Platy has been working extremely hard to solve the issues between you and HCP, Cup, and OB. Give him a break. If there is a post that insults you, flag it. Pm me if you have too. Don't respond to it. A fire can only start if its ignited.

I can't speak for Julius. I will say we (the mods) are just as frustrated as you are if not more. Please don't paint us as do nothings. We work hard to keep this forum going and to keep everything copastetic. We do it for free on our own times because the forum means a lot to us, just like it does to you. The mods here want the same as you, no drama. Trust me. Voicing concerns is one thing, hurling insults back and adding kersone to the fire is another.

 

[hoopsjock]

Nope. Did I say he was a racist? did I say he was a child molester? Did I call him a bigot? Nope. I said he was using the forum to further his videos.

Um, so what? It'd be a poor business decision not to take advantage of the forum as a whole.

OMG, that's not how you presented it. This is the exact bullshit that is causing this problem. You personally attacked him (even @SlyPokerDog noted it) in a way to skirt the rules and are now turning something YOU did into a problem with the forum. Shit like that is what's wrong with this situation. Then on top of it you try to act like others are the ones involved in middle school drama. Your posts in this thread are there for everyone to read.

@SlyPokerDog I took your words seriously earlier but when a mod starts doing it I think it needs to be discussed publicly.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dog child.

I'm a dog child.

And I don't have to grow up.

But yes, I do suck.

Nah man but ill comment on your quote of my response to platy.

If you notice i said the forum. Not mods. I made a point to state i havent seen any NON mod say anything.

I think you all do a great job at a great many things.

However your dealing and enabling of hcps behavior towards those who dont care for it is in of its own a bias.

And some mods are way worse than others.
But really the forum is to blame too.

Everyone who puts likes to his posts that poke or jab at those who don't care for it l, are enablers and have zero ground to complain about shit.

Nobody has been saying hcp has to change his game. Just play his game with people who like it.

What the fuck is so wrong with that??? Why must some of the mods and forum members not get that??

 

[julius]

OMG, that's not how you presented it. This is the exact bullshit that is causing this problem. You personally attacked him (even @SlyPokerDog noted it) in a way to skirt the rules and are now turning something YOU did into a problem with the forum. Shit like that is what's wrong with this situation. Then on top of it you try to act like others are the ones involved in middle school drama. Your posts in this thread are there for everyone to read.

@SlyPokerDog I took your words seriously earlier but when a mod starts doing it I think it needs to be discussed publicly.

Wait, I'm the one who 'personally' attacked him? By saying I thought he was using the forum to get his videos out more?

That's what passes as a "personal" attack today?

We're fine with the countless "I'm fucking Mrs HCP" jokes, but not this....Ooookay..


I don't know why I came back.

 

[riverman]

you guys know what's the enabler around here? The buddy system of propping up arguments without humor...taking stupid assed shit seriously enough to cause good people to moderate your behavior.....clowntown...

 

[hoopsjock]

Wait, I'm the one who 'personally' attacked him? By saying I thought he was using the forum to get his videos out more?

That's what passes as a "personal" attack today?

We're fine with the countless "I'm fucking Mrs HCP" jokes, but not this....Ooookay..


I don't know why I came back.

LMAO, really?

 

[julius]

LMAO, really?

Yeah, I honestly don't know why I came back from the break I took for about 2 months. This place had turned into a cess pool of angry "takes", and lots of whining over stupid shit/disagreements, and it was making it so I wasn't having fun reading the board (so I guess that means I did take my advice of leaving the board because it wasn't fun...hm...weird).

Not a lot has changed in the month since I came back, so like I said, I kind of wonder why I came back.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Wait, I'm the one who 'personally' attacked him? By saying I thought he was using the forum to get his videos out more?

That's what passes as a "personal" attack today?

We're fine with the countless "I'm fucking Mrs HCP" jokes, but not this....Ooookay..


I don't know why I came back.

Dude. Stop with the mrs hcp excuse. Its forum knowledge hcp is okay with it.

Apples to oranges.

I remember a certain person flipping out because i made a joke to post a bunch of posts from hcp here and send it to the blazers.
He still holds a grudge. Yet here you are telling us we hold grudges?? Gtfo with your bias bs dude.

Bones has made it clear he wants nothing to do with hcp and hcp rags on him in a round a passive aggressive manner. Just like he did me for a year or two.

Talk about holding a grudge. Hcp holds a grudge to anyone who says they don't like his schtick.
Why don't you acknowledge that???????

Cause you are one of the most biased of the mods.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nah man but ill comment on your quote of my response to platy.

If you notice i said the forum. Not mods. I made a point to state i havent seen any NON mod say anything.

I think you all do a great job at a great many things.

However your dealing and enabling of hcps behavior towards those who dont care for it is in of its own a bias.

And some mods are way worse than others.
But really the forum is to blame too.

Everyone who puts likes to his posts that poke or jab at those who don't care for it l, are enablers and have zero ground to complain about shit.

Nobody has been saying hcp has to change his game. Just play his game with people who like it.

What the fuck is so wrong with that??? Why must some of the mods and forum members not get that??

Not doing what you want is not enabling or dealing with someone.

I have talked to HCP privately. I have talked to Cup privately. I have talked to HoopsJock privately. And I have talked to you privately. All as recently as today.

HCP hasn't done anything wrong since I talked to him.

You, Cup, and HoopsJock have. All three of you have continued with the personal insults.

The post that fired up Bones tonight was from last night.

Last night.

Now, I wish all of this will end. I love all of you but I'm sick of it.

I'm not blaming or picking sides. I do respond. I do care. I don't like any of you feeling like you're being insulted or not wanted here.

 

[Orion Bailey]

you guys know what's the enabler around here? The buddy system of propping up arguments without humor...taking stupid assed shit seriously enough to cause good people to moderate your behavior.....clowntown...

You are one of the biggest enablers.
You regularly bitch about the drama yet never say a word to the person trying to start it.

You have no room to bitch about it if you are going to not say anything to the person regularly trying to start it.

Ive never had an issue with you ricer but you are aiming your annoyances at the wrong person/people.